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EK A380 Incident At HKG  
User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 441 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 28957 times:

Incident Time: 7 Apr 2012 17:44 local time (09:44 GMT)
According to local aviationists, flare was observed during landing of EK flight 384 bound from BKK at RWY 07L.
Involved aircraft is A6-EDQ. Evacuation was taken place on the runway.

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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12436 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 28881 times:

Quoting flythere (Thread starter):
According to local aviationists, flare was observed during landing of EK flight 384 bound from BKK at RWY 07L.

I certainly hope it did flare during its landing! (Though I think you mean fire?)


User currently offlinesuperhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 28414 times:

07L is closed. 07R used for both arrivals and departures

Delays more than 1hr


User currently offlineCZ346 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 27910 times:

I actually just popped on a.net to see what was up with this.

I was on UA117 from EWR and we were scheduled to land at 1830 local. While we were decending through FL190 we levelled off pretty suddenly and went directly into what was clearly a teardrop entry into a hold. Having close to 60 stamps in my passport at HKG I knew that was a bit irregular. I turned to the guy I was sitting next to and said that somethings going on - entering holds like that doesnt happen for no reason. A few minutes later thr captain came on and said there was a disabled A/C shutting down a runway and we'll be in a hold for a while. The flight was PACKED and the route is riht on the threshold of the 772's range - so, after 5 circuts he came back and told us we were going to Macau. That is the LAST thing you want to hear after a 15hr non-stop polar crossing (even in F)... Luckily the pilots used their Jedi mind tricks with ATC and got us priority into HKG and we got in on time. When we deplaned I asked the pilots how they Got us into HKG and apparently they claimed they had a lot of cargo and could not use the runway at Macau...

Anyway - so what happened? I'm at the Marriot at HKG and can't see too much going on. Does anyone have any further information?


User currently offlineRaptor1090 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2011, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 27661 times:

avherald says it was blown tyres on landing.
How many tyres on an A380 need to be blown to make the aircraft disabled? I would guess that it would be more than a couple, pointing to the fact that it was more than just a hard landing.
http://www.avherald.com/h?article=44da4394&opt=0

[Edited 2012-04-07 06:58:50]

User currently offlineCCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 831 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 27486 times:

Anti skid failure same problem happened to a QF A380 last year in Sydney.


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User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 26887 times:

Heard that there was fire involved and multiple wheels had to be changed prior to the aircraft being towed off the runway. Not sure if they evacuated or deplaned via the steps as I have heard both versions. The runway is now reopened but the aircraft was blocking the north runway for around 4 hrs.

User currently offlinesuperhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 26724 times:

The incident was reported as a headline on the local news.

Some passengers took a video of the onboard camera, and showed flames coming out of the right wheel


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 26589 times:

Yikes indeed.

Filler

[Edited 2012-04-07 09:34:44]

User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 25427 times:

Quoting superhub (Reply 7):
Some passengers took a video of the onboard camera, and showed flames coming out of the right wheel

I just got hold of the photos!
Here you go!


User currently offlineaquariusHKG From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2010, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 24927 times:

I was flying CX581 from CTS to HKG today, during departure we're expecting to land at 2030, but when we are near Hong Kong the pilot informed us that there's some delay "and chaos" at HKG, and we end up holding for another 20-30 minute before landing on the south runway. I was actually quite surprise that we landed on the South Runway as a I know that usually the North runway is the landing runway. End up getting off in a remote stand, something I havn't done since Kai Tak's day.

User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 23434 times:

Quoting flythere (Reply 9):
I just got hold of the photos!

Yikes! I guess the brakes locked. It is also interesting how the tail camera makes the passengers see things they would not otherwise have seen. Do RR-powered A380s have engine cameras? 


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13018 posts, RR: 100
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 21175 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 1):
I certainly hope it did flare during its landing!

  

Quoting flythere (Reply 9):
I just got hold of the photos!

Thank you. That tells a story. Something with the anti-skid... I'd be curious to know more.


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User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9031 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 20871 times:

Quoting flythere (Thread starter):
Evacuation was taken place on the runway.

Photos show them using the forward stairs.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12138 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18662 times:

This is not a big deal. Anti-skid systems don't fail very often, but when the do on a heavy airplane it can be spectacular. This will of course mean replacing many wheels and tires, as well as the effected brakes, and trouble-shoot the anti-skid system and make repairs as needed.

User currently offlineliftsifter From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18422 times:

Hasn't this bird just come out of heavy safety checks due to the issues with the wings? More maintenance already...


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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18250 times:

I was on QR 817 from HKG to DOH last night and shortly after boarding, the captain came on to inform us of "an incident with a large aircraft on one of the runways." Almost 3 hours later we taxied by the EK 380 on our way to the lone active runway. Here are the pictures (sorry not the best...)

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f42/SR747300M/IMG_2590.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f42/SR747300M/IMG_2589.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f42/SR747300M/IMG_2588.jpg


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18215 times:

I take it the aircraft would be taken out of service for a few days pending investigations considering this was an "emergency"...

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User currently offlinecaljn From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17100 times:

These birds are proving to be quite finicky.

User currently offlinemuzyck From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 15979 times:
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Quoting SR 103 (Reply 16):
Here are the pictures (sorry not the best...)

Thanks for these. They are fine.


User currently offlineliftsifter From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14925 times:

Quoting caljn (Reply 18):

Given the enormous gamble Airbus took with the A380, I would expect things like this to happen. I'd say something like this is expected..



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 13819 times:

Quoting liftsifter (Reply 20):

Airbus has taken an enormous gamble with the A380 & its certainly paid off...

EK413



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User currently offlineRaptor1090 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2011, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 12410 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 14):
This is not a big deal. Anti-skid systems don't fail very often, but when the do on a heavy airplane it can be spectacular. This will of course mean replacing many wheels and tires, as well as the effected brakes, and trouble-shoot the anti-skid system and make repairs as needed.

Okay, granted they may not be a big deal; but shouldn't there be additional precatuionary measures on a heavy airplane so that the wheels etc don't get affected to such an extent so as to diable the aircraft and put it out of service for a couple of days?


User currently offlineZKOKQ From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11700 times:

Quoting Raptor1090 (Reply 22):
Okay, granted they may not be a big deal; but shouldn't there be additional precatuionary measures on a heavy airplane so that the wheels etc don't get affected to such an extent so as to diable the aircraft and put it out of service for a couple of days?

What do you propose? The systems did their job and everyone got off safely.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11158 times:

Quoting ZKOKQ (Reply 23):

& once again the aircraft has performed...

EK413



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25 soon7x7 : Their are, but S---t happens. The aircraft is only a machine...not a magic carpet! When the 747 first arrived, many said it won'y fly, but it did. It
26 Raptor1090 : Well I'm not blaming the aircraft for what happened, and I'm no expert to really comment on the failure - but, I'm just saying that if it is known th
27 StickShaker : No it is not expected. Airbus took a significant commercial gamble when they launched the A380 program but they never gambled with the technical perf
28 Post contains links and images scbriml : Apparently not when flown correctly. If you land fast, stuff like burst tyres will happen. I'd agree - burst tyres due to a fast landing are to be ex
29 johnclipper : One time does not indicate "every time". Like every incident, there is an element of luck. I hope that there is never an A380 hull loss involving los
30 Post contains images StickShaker : I'll rephrase it to "The 380 has no design flaws that make it more vulnerable to mishaps than any other commercial jet aircraft". OK - I apologise in
31 WingedMigrator : Avherald has detail photos of the damaged gear, including a close-up of one of the wheels nearly ground down to the axle. Very impressive, and not so
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