Sterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1644 times:
I only wanna know what is the actual fleet of Sabena?
I know they will soon dispose of their remaining B-737, but what for the airbuses?
I will be interested in having the serial number, the registration, and all others info you might give.
152 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1570 times:
The last Müller-plan foresees this:
- on the long haul: 2 A340 going away, 11 A330 remaining
- on the medium haul:
all 737 (including Vex) go away, as well as
1 A319 and
Introducing (don't know when... but will probably just sign the contract until the next CEO comes around with of course a different vision on it and pays billions to cancel the contract )
9 "50-seaters" (to be confirmed which type) as well as 10 RJ85 and
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1550 times:
I transferred at BRU friday and today, and you could clearly tell which airplanes are goners and stayers by their paintjobs; all 737s (except one, maybe SDW) were still in the 90s colours, while all RJ-85s and RJ-100s were repainted (except for a few RJ-100s like DWE, DWG and the older BAe's). Also, the A-340s still had old colours.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
TriStar From Belgium, joined Oct 1999, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1534 times:
MEA-707, the three A321s are goners (and soon, too), and yet they have the new colours (for obvious reasons). Aircraft still bearing the old colours do so because they haven't been stripped of their paint for their checks, yet. There's no hidden agenda.
Sterne82, 4 A320s and 14 A319s will stay. Along with the 11 A330s, that will be the fleet of Sabena Airlines as such.
Sterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1532 times:
Thanks a lot guys, especially Tristar, but what I'm also looking for is the registration of the A 319, A 320 actually flying, and their serial number!
One amazing thing... the A 321 are all goners??? That's totally crazy and a nice proof of the "mismanagement" which lead Sabena to a uncertain future!!! A 321 joined the fleet in 1997 and in (around) 2002-2003 will be gone! I won't try to understand...as a "good" belgian I've now learned not to be surprised by such crazy things!
Hastaroth From Greece, joined Aug 2001, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1518 times:
One thing I don't understand...Why will they get rid of their 340s ? The 330 ,being twin-engined,it is an ETOPS plane...The 340 doesn't have to deal with that,so it would be easier to manage from the operational point of view.
Jaguar66 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1431 times:
you should know that the Swissair flight to ZRH is leaving IAD 50 minutes before the Sabena flight. From what I have heard from my longhaul colleagues, Swissair is making every effort to convince ($$?) Business Class pax to take their flight and connect to BRU instead of flying Sabena. That's how far the good cooperation goes...
Sndp From Belgium, joined Feb 2000, 553 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1417 times:
Introduction of the 50-seaters is subject to approval from the employees of the Business Plan. As costs per seat in these aircraft are higher than in larger planes (logic, economy of scales) cost will have to go down drasticly (see Business Plan) before the management will make a decision on buying these small planes, that will be operated by DAT. The Business PLan talks as a result only of the redrawal of planes and not of buying those smaller planes, as the management wants to see the cost reduction first happening.
Tomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1414 times:
Just 2 details
1) Sterne 82 : please remember that the first A321 joined the SN fleet only in march 1999. And note that the OO-SUC is lucky to be still flying as during autumn 2000 the rear part of its fuselage touched the ground on landing at LIS, causing a few weeks of repairs (plus 1 non pressurized ferry flight from LIS to BRU). Maybe SN pilots will be in a better position to give us more details on this unusual event. An event wich gave us the chance to see Balair planes at BRU.
2)TriStar speaks about uniformity with only A330 in the the LH fleet. That's absolutely correct BUT SN wouldn't be SN if she hadn't managed to have 3 GE-powered (A333 OO-SFM/N/O, earlier in Air Inter) amongst 7 PW-powered (the six A332 OO-SFP till SFU and the last A333, OO-SFX, the ''exotic''-one with a little different cabin layout) . But I must add it's not SN's will to have those 2 types of engines, the 3 A333-GE are in it's fleet because she took what she found (or could afford ?) in the time of their selection.