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User currently offlineSterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Hi,
I only wanna know what is the actual fleet of Sabena?
I know they will soon dispose of their remaining B-737, but what for the airbuses?
I will be interested in having the serial number, the registration, and all others info you might give.

Thanks a lot!

Bien à vous,
Benjamin

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User currently offline152 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

The last Müller-plan foresees this:

- on the long haul: 2 A340 going away, 11 A330 remaining

- on the medium haul:
all 737 (including Vex) go away, as well as
2 A320,
3 A321,
1 A319 and
1 DH8.
Introducing (don't know when... but will probably just sign the contract until the next CEO comes around with of course a different vision on it and pays billions to cancel the contract  Crying )
9 "50-seaters" (to be confirmed which type) as well as 10 RJ85 and
4 RJ100.


User currently offlineJuul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

A little something I've been wondering about...
In the business plan it says that SN will have 11 A330s. However, currently they only have 10 (6 -200s, 4 -300s). Does this mean they'll buy a new A330?

Greetings Big grin


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4353 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

I transferred at BRU friday and today, and you could clearly tell which airplanes are goners and stayers by their paintjobs; all 737s (except one, maybe SDW) were still in the 90s colours, while all RJ-85s and RJ-100s were repainted (except for a few RJ-100s like DWE, DWG and the older BAe's). Also, the A-340s still had old colours.


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineGenesis From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

To Juul

From what I understood, they will lease a A330 in 2002 and try to get one for Sabena in 2003.

Regards


User currently offlineTriStar From Belgium, joined Oct 1999, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

MEA-707, the three A321s are goners (and soon, too), and yet they have the new colours (for obvious reasons). Aircraft still bearing the old colours do so because they haven't been stripped of their paint for their checks, yet. There's no hidden agenda.

Sterne82, 4 A320s and 14 A319s will stay. Along with the 11 A330s, that will be the fleet of Sabena Airlines as such.

TriStar.


User currently offlineSterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1377 times:

Thanks a lot guys, especially Tristar, but what I'm also looking for is the registration of the A 319, A 320 actually flying, and their serial number!

One amazing thing... the A 321 are all goners??? That's totally crazy and a nice proof of the "mismanagement" which lead Sabena to a uncertain future!!! A 321 joined the fleet in 1997 and in (around) 2002-2003 will be gone! I won't try to understand...as a "good" belgian I've now learned not to be surprised by such crazy things!

Only my 50 belgian francs!

Bien à vous,
Benjamin


User currently offlineTriStar From Belgium, joined Oct 1999, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1379 times:

Sterne82,

This list of A319 en A320 aircraft currently in use with SN comes from Bill Harms' site http://www.bird.ch/bharms.

Serial Nr - Type - SN Reg
1048 - A319-112 - OO-SSA
1068 - A319-112 - OO-SSB
1086 - A319-112 - OO-SSC
1102 - A319-112 - OO-SSD
1124 - A319-112 - OO-SSE
1145 - A319-112 - OO-SSF
1160 - A319-112 - OO-SSG
1184 - A319-112 - OO-SSH
1283 - A319-112 - OO-SSI
1305 - A319-112 - OO-SSJ
1336 - A319-112 - OO-SSK
1364 - A319-112 - OO-SSL
1388 - A319-112 - OO-SSM
1429 - A319-112 - OO-SSN
1494 - A319-112 - OO-SSO
1054 - A320-214 - OO-SNE
1081 - A320-214 - OO-SNF
1370 - A320-214 - OO-SNG
1413 - A320-214 - OO-SNH
1439 - A320-214 - OO-SNI
1450 - A320-214 - OO-SNJ
970 - A321-211 - OO-SUA
995 - A321-211 - OO-SUB
1012 - A321-211 - OO-SUC

I hope that helps.

Best regards,

TriStar.



User currently offlineSterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1373 times:

Perfect Tristar, great job.
Thanks a lot!

Best regards for you too!

Benjamin


User currently offlineHastaroth From Greece, joined Aug 2001, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1363 times:

One thing I don't understand...Why will they get rid of their 340s ? The 330 ,being twin-engined,it is an ETOPS plane...The 340 doesn't have to deal with that,so it would be easier to manage from the operational point of view.

Salut a tous!

Albert


User currently offlineTriStar From Belgium, joined Oct 1999, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

Hastaroth,

There will be no destinations on which the A340 is absolutely needed, range wise. Hence, for "fleet uniformity"; only A330.

Best regards,

TriStar.


User currently offlineTupolev154B2 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1313 times:

How about flights to Asia? Doesn't the range require an A340?

User currently offlineSpitfire From France, joined Feb 2001, 801 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1296 times:

According to Müller Business Plan, we wiill stop NRT from winter season. MAA can be made in A330 untill...???


Sabena ... Never to be forgotten (12 years already , what a shame !! )
User currently offlineAtwingo From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1287 times:

Why is Washington Dulles such a low performing route for SABENA? I hate to see them go!!

User currently offlineJaguar66 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

Atwingo,
you should know that the Swissair flight to ZRH is leaving IAD 50 minutes before the Sabena flight. From what I have heard from my longhaul colleagues, Swissair is making every effort to convince ($$?) Business Class pax to take their flight and connect to BRU instead of flying Sabena. That's how far the good cooperation goes...


User currently offlineSndp From Belgium, joined Feb 2000, 553 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Introduction of the 50-seaters is subject to approval from the employees of the Business Plan. As costs per seat in these aircraft are higher than in larger planes (logic, economy of scales) cost will have to go down drasticly (see Business Plan) before the management will make a decision on buying these small planes, that will be operated by DAT. The Business PLan talks as a result only of the redrawal of planes and not of buying those smaller planes, as the management wants to see the cost reduction first happening.
sndp


User currently offlineTomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1259 times:

Just 2 details

1) Sterne 82 : please remember that the first A321 joined the SN fleet only in march 1999. And note that the OO-SUC is lucky to be still flying as during autumn 2000 the rear part of its fuselage touched the ground on landing at LIS, causing a few weeks of repairs (plus 1 non pressurized ferry flight from LIS to BRU). Maybe SN pilots will be in a better position to give us more details on this unusual event. An event wich gave us the chance to see Balair planes at BRU.

2)TriStar speaks about uniformity with only A330 in the the LH fleet. That's absolutely correct BUT SN wouldn't be SN if she hadn't managed to have 3 GE-powered (A333 OO-SFM/N/O, earlier in Air Inter) amongst 7 PW-powered (the six A332 OO-SFP till SFU and the last A333, OO-SFX, the ''exotic''-one with a little different cabin layout)  Wink/being sarcastic . But I must add it's not SN's will to have those 2 types of engines, the 3 A333-GE are in it's fleet because she took what she found (or could afford ?) in the time of their selection.

Regards

Nicolas


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