fpetrutiu From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 764 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9015 times:
MOSCOW, April 9, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) and Transaero Airlines of Russia recently signed an order for four 787-8 Dreamliners. The signing ceremony for the order, valued at $744 million at list prices, made history by being held onboard the 787 during a demonstration flight for Transaero's executives, employees and special guests.
"Our history with Boeing goes back to 1993 when Transaero became the first airline in Russia to fly with Boeing aircraft," said Transaero Airlines Chairman of the Board of Directors Alexander Pleshakov. "Following our innovative approach and our continuous efforts to enhance our product quality, we have chosen the state-of-the-art, highly-efficient Boeing 787 Dreamliner. It is very symbolic that our airline became a participant of the first order announcement ceremony conducted in the air on board the 787. Boeing 787s will perform flights on both Transaero's domestic and international routes."
Captain Evgeny Nikitin, Commander of Transaero's 767/777 flying unit, was co-piloting the 787 during the entire flight from takeoff to landing as the signing ceremony took place.
Made primarily from composite materials, the Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the first mid-size airplane capable of flying long-range routes and will allow airlines to open new, non-stop routes preferred by the traveling public. As a result of innovative technologies, the airplane offers unparalleled operating economics, fuel efficiency and passenger comfort. More than 850 787s are on order by 59 customers, a testament to the airplane's unique capabilities. Russia played an important role in creating this revolutionary airplane. Engineers from the Moscow Boeing Design Center participated in designing a number of key sections of the 787. Russian manufacturer VSMPO-AVISMA supplies titanium parts for the 787 Dreamliner.
"Boeing and Transaero enjoy an almost two-decades-long partnership and we are opening a great new chapter together with the 787 Dreamliner," said Marty Bentrott, vice president of Sales for Middle East, Russia and Central Asia, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "We look forward to working with Transaero to offer the airline's passengers the unprecedented comfort of the 787 Dreamliner and our continued partnership with this great airline."
Transaero was the first private airline in Russia established in 1991. Transaero also was the first Russian airline to introduce a Boeing airplane to its fleet. In 1993 Transaero started operating its 737. Today Transaero is the second largest airline in Russia operating the 737, 747, 767 and 777 Boeing airplanes.
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16598 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8555 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4): Well, they've ordered or operate everything else, so this is almost inevitable.
Boeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 324 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8541 times:
What is up with Transaero ordering every single new widebody jet out there?
What do they have on order now? I know there is a bunch of them, and all in orders of 4 IIRC.
GCPET From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2012, 189 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8485 times:
Great News! The 787 will look brilliant in the Transaero livery. The airline is growing at quite a rate. I'm guessing these 787's will replace the current 767 aircraft in the fleet.
817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 1489 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8471 times:
Quoting garpd (Reply 6): They can be painted. Boeing recomend a boring grey paint which has specific laminar flow properties, so as not to induce drag.
Ok didnt know they could be painted
Quoting Spacepope (Reply 9): Heh, they left out the order for 747-8s
I think they have orders for the A320neo and A380 as well
Blast Reality, Burst it into shreds! Banishment, This World!
Polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1591 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8162 times:
Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 12): I think they have orders for the A320neo and A380 as well
They have firm orders for 8 A320neos and MOUs for 4 A380s and 4 748s.
aerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6368 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 5503 times:
these four are probably just cancelled orders that Boeing tried to repatriate with another (loyal) company. Transaero probably got them for a healthy discount per frame too.
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2744 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 5253 times:
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 15):
these four are probably just cancelled orders that Boeing tried to repatriate with another (loyal) company. Transaero probably got them for a healthy discount per frame too.
aerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6368 posts, RR: 13 Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 5165 times:
Quoting Spacepope (Reply 16): You got a source for that information?
Of course not, hence I stated it speculatively rather than categorically and factually.
However it is known that there are a number of airlines which have cancelled/deferred 787 orders and thus left 'windows/gaps' in the production line to be taken up by other airlines, and an order of 4 could easily fill some of these 'windows'.
kanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2498 posts, RR: 21 Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4257 times:
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 17): left 'windows/gaps' in the production line to be taken up by other airlines
That also is totally speculative.. because so much of this plane is common with few customer preferences in the basic unit other than engines, there are no windows and gaps..
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3796 times:
I'll have two of those, four of those big ones over there, let's see, ok three of those nice looking ones, oh and I can't forget four of those to top it off...
akelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2105 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3501 times:
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 17): However it is known that there are a number of airlines which have cancelled/deferred 787 orders and thus left 'windows/gaps' in the production line to be taken up by other airlines, and an order of 4 could easily fill some of these 'windows'.
Which is also the case for the A350 and A380, but we won't mention those, right?
SEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 217 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3199 times:
Quoting kanban (Reply 18): That also is totally speculative.. because so much of this plane is common with few customer preferences in the basic unit other than engines, there are no windows and gaps..
While in this specific instance, it's speculative, this sort of thing does happen ALL the time, whether or not the aircraft is brand new or not.
yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2326 times:
Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 22): Have the 748 order been ever confirmed?? Source??
Confirmed as in a finalized order? No.
For Transaero both A-388 and B-748i are MoU's, as Polot said above.
aerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6368 posts, RR: 13 Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1891 times:
Quoting akelley728 (Reply 20): Which is also the case for the A350 and A380, but we won't mention those, right?
Why would we be? we are talking only specifically about the 4 787s ordered. The other types are irrelevant to this post...
25 frigatebird: The production slots that have been freed up by cancellations will result in other airlines that already ordered 787s moving up in the 'firing order'
26 Burkhard: .. but those that will be scrapped soon...