SJCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 579 posts, RR: 1 Posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1360 times:
This past week, I flew on a NW 722 between ORD and DTW. I was looking forward to flying on this plane because they are retireing them soon, but I didn't know that they are just letting the interiors rot to hell just because they will be gone soon! This plane was a disaster inside. The very first seat in first class on the aisle had a thick piece of duct tape wrapped around it on the top saying "Flight attendants only!!" I sat over the wing and the wing was totally tattered, paint coming off. Anyways, the flight was fine, but gosh it's sad to see those planes in those conditions!
Notar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1238 times:
I must agree- the 727 was great for it's time but now airlines just don't have a use for it and some airports restrict landing there due to "Noise Regulations". I really hate to see all the oldies just fly off to their death in the graveyards. ;,-(
N312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2684 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1215 times:
All the NW 722's that ive flown have been in great conditon, with good seat pitch.. I recently flew a NW DC-9-50 and was appalled with the conditon of it, especially the water leaking in the cabin through the cieling midsection.
Braniff727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1017 times:
I've flown on quite a few of the NW 722's lately and have not seen anything like you've described. Granted I haven't been on all of them lately...
Anyway, the 727 is one of my faves, and I think they are far more comfortable than most of the newer planes, especially the ones with the new DC-9 seats. The older seats are much more comfortable. Oh well, all good things must come to an end.
Mac From United States of America, joined May 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1013 times:
As a result of the vast expansion of air cargo facilities
and Lindbergh Field, San Diego, there has been an influx
of Boeing 727's, with some of them looking as if they were the very early marques due to the shorter fuselages as compared to later models.
And of course, United continues to fly their 727's into
Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 967 times:
It all boils down to saving money. The airlines do not want to spend money to patch up a old plane that will be gone in 1-4 years, they'd rather spend their money elsewhere, like towards a new A/C for example.
Granted the cost fo a new airplane is by far more than the cost to repair the cabin of an old one, but if you neglect even 40 of those old planes you've saved quite a bit, because repairing all of them would add up.
Besies, these airline ar elarge enough to get away with that, they are well known, make tons of money, and ARE aquiring new planes right and left. So letting their image slide in one place should not hurt them too much.
Even those of you who flew on the NW 727s that were in bad shape will probably fly Northwest again anyway, right? so there's not much harm done to the airline, which in turn means they could care less the shape of their old plane because they still have the customers coming in.
Now if a new/startup airline were flying THEIR planes in that condition, they would go bankrupt rather quickly, because no one would fly them, not with that image.
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 41
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 950 times:
I've seen a couple of NW 722's barely make it off the runway here in CLE... I'm talking out of 7,096 ft. they must have had less than 1,000 ft. left when they got their wheels up.
But last night took the cake... I saw a US F-100 go wheels up with 500 ft. left. I had to go sit down. I mean the thing almost clipped the fence at the end of the runway -- maybe cleared it by 50 feet.
Dan-air From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 851 times:
In a couple of years, none of us will be able to fly on one of these *classic* birds ever again. How will you feel then about a little duct tape?
I for one *love* going down the jetway and getting on a 727, look into the cockpit and see the incredible array of steam gauges and buttons, very disorganized compared with modern machinery. They are a little sluggish, especially on a hot day, but apart from that they fly great - and I believe the flight crews love 'em.
I spoke to an NWA captain a couple of years ago after a 727 segment - I asked why they were still flying them - simple answer - THEY ARE PAID FOR!
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 839 times:
I'm not that close to DTW, probably about 15 or more miles, but when the planes take off to the north, the ones that head west bound make their turns usually over my house but they are several thousand feet up. None the less, the 722s and DC-9s of Northwest still roar through the house. You have to be outside to hear all of the other planes