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Multiple New G4 Routes Tomorrow (4/10)  
User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3638 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5827 times:

Per G4's Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/Allegiant

Let the speculation begin:
-Will G4 try to fill in some of the void left by Direct Air at MYR and/or PGD?
-Will some of the Hawaii plans be announced?
-Will we see additional service between existing G4 cities?
-Will we see all of the above?


I don't work for FWA, their tenants, or their ad agency. But I still love FWA.
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User currently offlineflyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1986 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

Looks like FWA is announcing something tomorrow morning at 10:15am. Coicidence?

http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?id=53103

[Edited 2012-04-09 11:40:43]

User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3638 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

Quoting flyinryan99 (Reply 1):
Looks like FWA is announcing something tomorrow morning at 10:15am. Coicidence?

Saw that on the FWA Facebook page as well, so I think it's very likely that we'll see a G4 route of some sort.

Currently, G4 flies FWA-MYR/PIE/SFB. Even though FWA-PGD would be a natural fit, G4 doesn't fly to PGD in the summer, so I don't think that FWA-PGD is it. Likewise, FWA-AZA had high loads, but low package sales. And I don't think that FWA-LAX/OAK would work.

That leaves FWA-FLL and FWA-LAS. Both have been tried by G4 before, with LAS being the more successful of the two routes.



I don't work for FWA, their tenants, or their ad agency. But I still love FWA.
User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1914 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

I noticed on the G4 facebook page it said new routes are "brewing" which makes me think something to do with beer or coffee. I don't see STL or MKE or even BLV happening. I guest FNL could be considered Golden, CO. CIC has Sierra Nevada brewery and I have long speculated that city is coming at some point. I thought you could possibly market BLI as SEA (coffee) (why not, they already treat PGD as RSW and SRQ and even APF to a certain extent). Maybe I am overthinking the wording on the facebook page.

User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3638 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5471 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 3):
I don't see STL or MKE or even BLV happening.

G4 tried BLV-LAS/SFB, but the competition at STL from WN did them in.

Quoting LV (Reply 3):
Maybe I am overthinking the wording on the facebook page.

I'd say that might be the case. G4 rarely drops hints like that... they usually use terms like "new city" or "new route". However, they did drop a hint of the OAK base by teasing with a list of things to do in San Francisco about two days before the OAK base announcement.

Quoting LV (Reply 3):
I thought you could possibly market BLI as SEA (coffee) (why not, they already treat PGD as RSW and SRQ and even APF to a certain extent)

And don't forget G4's usage of SFB over MCO, AZA over PHX, and PIE over TPA.



I don't work for FWA, their tenants, or their ad agency. But I still love FWA.
User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5225 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5424 times:

Maybe G4 will be announcing service to Paine Field in Everett? (I've lost track of how that fight is going between the NIMBYs and the airport and the airlines....)

Otherwise, a few new routes from BLI for this summer could be in the wind...?

bb


User currently onlineWhatUsaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 647 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5297 times:

Well, it's anniversary week for the carrier. If they don't announce Hawaii this week (and it's doubtful) I would expect they'll be linking the 757s to some longer stage routes for the summer and Hawaii will be pushed back again. I hope to be wrong.

User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 970 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 3):
I noticed on the G4 facebook page it said new routes are "brewing" which makes me think something to do with beer or coffee.

Then it might be more routes from AVL...America's new Beer City (and future home of the East Coast outposts for Sierra Nevada and New Belgium).

On the G4 interactive map, the existing route from AVL (to SFB) is currently inoperative as of right now. I'm guessing AVL-PIE or FLL.


User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1268 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

AZA-FCA or LAS-HLN out west are my guesses and some PDG service out east. If G4 can snip some of Direct Air's routes, it will be even harder for them to ever get back in the air.

User currently offlineYNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4908 times:

My money is on PGD service... I could very well be wrong.


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User currently offlinetreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 626 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4661 times:

Interesting, I wonder if they might start service to Bemidji?
http://www.aviationpros.com/news/106...-eyes-bemidji-as-potential-air-hub



Allons-y!
User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1268 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4642 times:

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 10):
Interesting, I wonder if they might start service to Bemidji?
http://www.aviationpros.com/news/106...r-hub

If G4 was unable to make LAS-RST work, I doubt Bemidji would work. STC would likely stand a better chance.


User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1268 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

Looks like it is PGD and HNL.

Route map now showing:

Punta Gorda to: Ft. Wayne, South Bend, Peoria, Niagara Falls
Honolulu to: Las Vegas, Stockton


User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

When you select HNL as your departure city, it gives the options of Stockton and Fresno - no Las Vegas.

'902



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Thrice weekly LASHNL starts 30 June. Once weekly FATHNL starts the next day.


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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2880 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Quoting WhatUsaid (Reply 6):
Well, it's anniversary week for the carrier. If they don't announce Hawaii this week (and it's doubtful) I would expect they'll be linking the 757s to some longer stage routes for the summer and Hawaii will be pushed back again. I hope to be wrong

You are not wrong at all, congrats you got it, it is Hawaii, those 6 757's have a home where it's warm year round.

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 13):
When you select HNL as your departure city, it gives the options of Stockton and Fresno - no Las Vegas

Now the interactive route map shows LAS & SCK, but lists LAS & FAT.



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User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3637 times:

I was wondering if G4 was going to tag onto the LAS-HNL to points east, but the schedule looks like the a/c will RON in LAS with a 21:50 arrival. FAT will also be RON with a Saturday 21:25 arrival and departure the next morning at 09:10.


Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineflyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1986 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3066 times:

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 12):
Punta Gorda to: Ft. Wayne, South Bend, Peoria, Niagara Falls

New base in PGD.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/allegi...rations-punta-gorda-140000102.html

I wonder how many aircraft they plan on basing there when they ramp up operations.


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3638 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3055 times:

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 12):
Punta Gorda to: Ft. Wayne, South Bend, Peoria, Niagara Falls

FWA-PGD should do very well for G4. I remembered hearing once that 10% of the pax on FL's IND-RSW route came from the Fort Wayne area. This should help FWA reduce their leakage to IND by a considerable margin.

SBN doesn't surprise me, either, and neither do PIA or IAG. PIA is close to SPI (a former Direct Air city), and IAG was another successful PGD route for Direct Air.

On a related note, PGD will now be a permanent base for G4: http://ir.allegiantair.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=663027



I don't work for FWA, their tenants, or their ad agency. But I still love FWA.
User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6484 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3038 times:

It's weird to start all these routes to PGD during the low-season for Southwest Florida. G4 may struggle a bit flying routes from the Midwest to PGD during August/September/October.

User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2672 times:

Has PGD upgraded their terminal facilities in the past year? About a year ago an acquaintance of mine flew G4 out of PGD and said it was small, cramped, crowded, and chaotic in the terminal- and there was only 1 other flight besides his scheduled to depart.

PGD terminal:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=26.915...97039&hl=en&num=1&t=h&deg=180&z=20

Also interesting that PGD has no ILS for their main runway 15/33 (7193'), only RNAV (GPS) procedures:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KPGD

[Edited 2012-04-10 08:38:40]


Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineJet13 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

They are going to start service to HNL from Las Vegas starting JUNE 29th! (facebook)


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User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 19):

It's weird to start all these routes to PGD during the low-season for Southwest Florida. G4 may struggle a bit flying routes from the Midwest to PGD during August/September/October.

Agreed. Flights will probably be pretty light here. I would imagine we'll see most of the old Direct Air routes come online starting in November when peak season starts to kick in.



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