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Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX  
User currently offlinePhxA340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 891 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9170 times:

Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

8" nose gear extension , providing 12% better fuel econ that current NG

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...12/uk-boeing-idUSLNE83A02S20120412

"The company unveiled several design choices meant to lower weight and wind-resistance for its upcoming 737 MAX. The planemaker said it had decided on an 8-inch nose gear extension to give ground clearance for a larger engine fan."

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User currently onlinesupersomondoco From Colombia, joined Dec 2009, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7439 times:

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
8" nose gear extension , providing 12% better fuel econ that current NG

I saw this coming!!



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3766 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6408 times:

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

They've decided on a nose gear design and a few more details... Hardly the 'finishing touches' the article states.

Here's the FG article:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-other-details-for-737-max-370602/

Will it give it a nose high attitude?



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineBlueJuice From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6289 times:

I think Cessna, Piper, and Beechcraft may take exception to Reuters stating the 737 family is the world's most-sold airplane.

User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3559 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5682 times:
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Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
Will it give it a nose high attitude?


I seem to recall earlier threads that said basically "not a perceivable" .. just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt   


User currently offlineSEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5608 times:

The finishing touches will be finished when deliveries begin...

User currently offlineaerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2714 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5405 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 4):
seem to recall earlier threads that said basically "not a perceivable" .. just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt

I hope so.

Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude compared to the 737-3/4/5 family (the -400 especially looked awkward).

Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3863 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5385 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
Will it give it a nose high attitude?

Slightly, but considerably less than the space shuttle during liftoff.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5263 times:

Quoting SEA (Reply 5):
The finishing touches will be finished when deliveries begin...

Exactly. Why would Boeing be all done with the modifications 4-5 years in advance? I'd think they'd be tweaking it all the way till the first frame is built. Especially as new technologies emerge.



My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3559 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5238 times:
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The key is in reading what the article actually said.. "Boeing Co on Wednesday put some finishing touches on a make-over of its popular 737" The missing word "some" clarifies all.

User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3766 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4636 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 4):
just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt

  

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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineSYfan100 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3908 times:

Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31003 posts, RR: 86
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3834 times:
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Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Lion Air and Norwegian have ordered a few hundred between them. AA is on board for 100. A number of other carriers are said to be good for many hundreds more.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3822 times:

Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Norwegian Air Shuttle and Lion Air. And I didn't even have to think too hard to answer that one.



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User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16281 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Lion Air and Norwegian have ordered a few hundred between them. AA is on board for 100. A number of other carriers are said to be good for many hundreds more.
Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Norwegian Air Shuttle and Lion Air. And I didn't even have to think too hard to answer that one.

The only firm orders to date are from Norwegian (100 MAX 8), Southwest (150 MAX 8) and Lion Air (201 MAX 9). AA has not finalized their order yet.

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).

I agree. Like the E190 vs the E175.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3559 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3246 times:
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Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).


I guess the question is whether it will be discernible... or an illusion based on knowing it exists.


User currently offlinesirtoby From Germany, joined Nov 2007, 378 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude

I don't think that a serious airline CEO will order an aircraft just for aesthetical reasons.
The question is if these changes can make the aircraft good enough versus the A320neo.
At another thread there is this discussion:

Doubts About The Engine Of The MAX (by rheinwaldner Apr 11 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1223 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

Not quite. The design freeze is in 2013 or so. Many (small) changes to be made yet, nodoubt.

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude compared to the 737-3/4/5 family (the -400 especially looked awkward).

Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).

+1



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