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Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX  
User currently offlinePhxA340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 1002 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9873 times:

Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

8" nose gear extension , providing 12% better fuel econ that current NG

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...12/uk-boeing-idUSLNE83A02S20120412

"The company unveiled several design choices meant to lower weight and wind-resistance for its upcoming 737 MAX. The planemaker said it had decided on an 8-inch nose gear extension to give ground clearance for a larger engine fan."

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User currently offlinesupersomondoco From Colombia, joined Dec 2009, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8142 times:

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
8" nose gear extension , providing 12% better fuel econ that current NG

I saw this coming!!



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 4097 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7111 times:

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

They've decided on a nose gear design and a few more details... Hardly the 'finishing touches' the article states.

Here's the FG article:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-other-details-for-737-max-370602/

Will it give it a nose high attitude?



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineBlueJuice From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6992 times:

I think Cessna, Piper, and Beechcraft may take exception to Reuters stating the 737 family is the world's most-sold airplane.

User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 4163 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6385 times:
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Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
Will it give it a nose high attitude?


I seem to recall earlier threads that said basically "not a perceivable" .. just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt   


User currently offlineSEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6311 times:

The finishing touches will be finished when deliveries begin...

User currently offlineaerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2875 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6108 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 4):
seem to recall earlier threads that said basically "not a perceivable" .. just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt

I hope so.

Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude compared to the 737-3/4/5 family (the -400 especially looked awkward).

Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3943 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6088 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
Will it give it a nose high attitude?

Slightly, but considerably less than the space shuttle during liftoff.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

Quoting SEA (Reply 5):
The finishing touches will be finished when deliveries begin...

Exactly. Why would Boeing be all done with the modifications 4-5 years in advance? I'd think they'd be tweaking it all the way till the first frame is built. Especially as new technologies emerge.



My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 4163 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5941 times:
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The key is in reading what the article actually said.. "Boeing Co on Wednesday put some finishing touches on a make-over of its popular 737" The missing word "some" clarifies all.

User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 4097 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5339 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 4):
just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt

  

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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineSYfan100 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4611 times:

Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 32927 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4537 times:
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Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Lion Air and Norwegian have ordered a few hundred between them. AA is on board for 100. A number of other carriers are said to be good for many hundreds more.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2139 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Norwegian Air Shuttle and Lion Air. And I didn't even have to think too hard to answer that one.



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User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16456 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Lion Air and Norwegian have ordered a few hundred between them. AA is on board for 100. A number of other carriers are said to be good for many hundreds more.
Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Norwegian Air Shuttle and Lion Air. And I didn't even have to think too hard to answer that one.

The only firm orders to date are from Norwegian (100 MAX 8), Southwest (150 MAX 8) and Lion Air (201 MAX 9). AA has not finalized their order yet.

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).

I agree. Like the E190 vs the E175.



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User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 4163 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3949 times:
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Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).


I guess the question is whether it will be discernible... or an illusion based on knowing it exists.


User currently onlinesirtoby From Germany, joined Nov 2007, 437 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude

I don't think that a serious airline CEO will order an aircraft just for aesthetical reasons.
The question is if these changes can make the aircraft good enough versus the A320neo.
At another thread there is this discussion:

Doubts About The Engine Of The MAX (by rheinwaldner Apr 11 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlinezkojq From Armenia, joined Sep 2011, 1793 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3362 times:

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

Not quite. The design freeze is in 2013 or so. Many (small) changes to be made yet, nodoubt.

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude compared to the 737-3/4/5 family (the -400 especially looked awkward).

Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).

+1



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