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Festivity Always- Caribbean Aviation Thread 97  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1432 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15590 times:

Greetings once again to all A.net patrons!!!

Welcome to the 97th instalment of the Caribbean Aviation Thread. This thread, unfortunately, will not be dedicated to any particular island due to my personal immediate time constraints, however, the successive will continue the conventional island spotlight trend. It's great to see the lively nature of the forum and I sincerely hope that these discussion activities continue at their current pace.


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*************News Feed***********
Redjet's ultimate fate still undecided as BGI ponders helping the LCC
Redjet loses POS and BGI AOCs
CAL reported to be under considerable financial stress
CAL ATRs 9Y-TTC and 9Y-TTD remain in TLS
CAL rumoured to be not happy with ATRs and looking at Q400 again.
CAL increase capacity into JFK for Easter period from both POS and KIN
KX to launch service to PTY on May 31
$US138M airport improvement project for GEO still on course
Increased pax arrivals and cargo for SKB in 2011
UX to offer seasonal 2x weekly BCN-SDQ service with A332
UP gets first B735 (B6-BFE) to replace B732s ex AR
LI's V2-LGA leaves fleet
Air Caraibes inaugurates 2x weekly ORY-SDQ flight on March 25
CAL looks at Brazil possibilities through Ogle, Guyana
DAE ATR-42 in new DAE livery
DAE to start daily CUR-MIA on June 1st
Hotel affiliated Harlequin Air becomes newest Caribbean carrier based in SLU
Surinam Airways inaugurates PBM-GEO-MIA service
George Nicholas resigns as CAL chairman
New CAL chairman to be economist, businessman and politician Rabindra Moonan
CAL B763s delayed till May. A/C painted and config is 30/191.
9Y-SXM suffers bird strike outbound from POS to JFK. Returns safely...


Happy Posting!




It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15576 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
CAL rumoured to be not happy with ATRs and looking at Q400 again.

WOW WOW WOW, that's big... I imagine they were so used to the Q's.... and now? 


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2387 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15544 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
CAL rumoured to be not happy with ATRs and looking at Q400 again.

If true, I wonder why. Also it might explain why the other 2 TTC and TTD have not been delivered yet.



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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2626 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15516 times:

Quote:
You guys want to support WN expansion into the Caribbean....do your part http://www.freehobbyairport.com/

Houston, we have a solution! Love it!

WN wants support for international service out of HOU but it support page doesn't allow support from overseas.. WN get your act together.. I want to see a HOU F.I.S. and CM flying there (to get cheaper fares to Houston).



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 15465 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
WN wants support for international service out of HOU but it support page doesn't allow support from overseas..

But you can just write in your name with a made up US address :^)

I sent WN an email about the overseas registrations. Let see what happens.



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User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 15439 times:

I cant imagine the Q400 on the TAB-POS hop the aircraft is not designed for those type of ops also can the Q400 fit in SLU? What are the rumored problems with the ATR?

User currently offlineaa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 15442 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
CAL B763s delayed till May. A/C painted and config is 30/191.

Where is the aircraft? Is it in Chile or in the US?
I know Inbound made the statement below in the previous thread:

Quoting Inbound:
I retract my statement about the aircraft not being painted....

Is that because of the photo here: http://www.svzmspotters.net/noticias.php?id=836
Is that an edit or a photoshop? If its a photoshop, its a darn good job, and very accurate as the registration is just as Inbound said it would be 9Y-LGW and 9Y-LHR.

Cheers,
AA1818



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15407 times:

Thanks for starting the thread BW424 but you are missing photos of DAE!!!

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
If true, I wonder why. Also it might explain why the other 2 TTC and TTD have not been delivered yet.

Either Caribbean Airlines doesn't know what their doing or this is based on nothing (maybe coming from (opposing) politicians). You can't be happy or not happy with a new aircraft type after operating it for so little time. Come on, give the ATR a bit more time to prove itself!!! You know what, let them send those ATR's on scheduled flights to CUR so I can judge for myself if they are good or not Big grin

A388

[Edited 2012-04-13 09:00:55]

User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 789 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 15337 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
If true, I wonder why. Also it might explain why the other 2 TTC and TTD have not been delivered yet.

The most consistent rumour around is that they're yet to be paid for. Whether or not CAL is refusing to pay or perhaps they just don't have the money is the topic for debate.

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 6):
Is that because of the photo here: http://www.svzmspotters.net/noticias.php?id=836
Is that an edit or a photoshop? If its a photoshop, its a darn good job, and very accurate as the registration is just as Inbound said it would be 9Y-LGW and 9Y-LHR.

Looks photoshop to me, albeit a damn good one.



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 15313 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 8):
Looks photoshop to me, albeit a damn good one.

If you look at the capital letter "A" of the word Airlines and the two "bb" small letters of the word Caribbean, you will notice that the don't curve as they should (the fuselage is round and not flat). At least this is my opinion. The hummingbird near the horizontal stabilizer also looks awkward/fake. All this definately gives it away as a photoshopped image  

Cheers,

A388

[Edited 2012-04-13 11:39:50]

User currently offlinewestindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 15243 times:

Quoting baje427 (Reply 5):
also can the Q400 fit in SLU?

Sure it can! Remember when the old BW used to bring the Mad Dogs into SLU?

Quoting A388 (Reply 7):
You know what, let them send those ATR's on scheduled flights to CUR so I can judge for myself if they are good or not 

LOL! Of course, you would say that!



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 15236 times:

A preview of 9Y-LGW in MEX, its former CC-CEB will be in POS in the beginning of May.

http://envivodesdescl.blogspot.ca/20...l-cc-ceb-uno-de-los-veteranos.html



[Edited 2012-04-13 16:43:19]


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 15210 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 11):
A preview of 9Y-LGW in MEX, its former CC-CEB will be in POS in the beginning of May.

I can already see that the titles are smaller compared to the Caribbean Airlines 737's.

A388


User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 15182 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 11):

Looking nice looking forward to seeing the aircraft in BGI I don't think at this point CAL will go for the Q400 its not the right aircraft.


User currently offlineinbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 15163 times:

See, I knew someone would get a pic sooner or later.  


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User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 15095 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 11):
A preview of 9Y-LGW in MEX, its former CC-CEB will be in POS in the beginning of May.

Looking forward to seeing it in JFK. Still wish it was a 777 though.


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2387 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 15034 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
9Y-SXM suffers bird strike outbound from POS to JFK. Returns safely...

Any word on any damage to the aircraft?

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 11):

Thanks for posting the photo, too bad its not the the entire aircraft, hope they have the winglets painted

Quoting A388 (Reply 12):
I can already see that the titles are smaller compared to the Caribbean Airlines 737's.

Its probably the same size as on the 737, well it might be a size bigger, but not exactly sure



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User currently onlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 14989 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 7):
You can't be happy or not happy with a new aircraft type after operating it for so little time. Come on, give the ATR a bit more time to prove itself!!!

ATR has a backlog of a 150+ orders while BBD has just a handful so CAL is saying everyone else is wrong.  
Are these -500s or earlier? or -600s?



"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2387 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 14973 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 17):
Are these -500s or earlier? or -600s?

They have the -600s



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User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week ago) and read 14909 times:

Anyone know why AC is sending and E190 on YYZ-BGI route today they have three flights from YYZ-BGI today anyone know why ?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7097


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2387 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14891 times:

Quoting baje427 (Reply 19):

I think thats quite stretch on an E190 don't you think? It might be a flightaware error.



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User currently onlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14864 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 20):
I think thats quite stretch on an E190

Yep. A little bit outside of the E190 published range @ 2424nm unless they are taking a penalty.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14862 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 21):
Yep. A little bit outside of the E190 published range @ 2424nm unless they are taking a penalty.

Or the flightaware website is wrong. They posted the first Southwest 737-800 flight as being operated with the 737-300...

A388

[Edited 2012-04-14 10:21:42]

User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14840 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 22):

I saw the plane land in BGI its not an error by flightaware aircraft is currently parked at the gate


User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1432 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14809 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 16):
Any word on any damage to the aircraft?

No extensive damage that I'm aware of. I believe she was operating 524, returned and then was down for a day or two. She's back in the air now.

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 11):
A preview of 9Y-LGW in MEX, its former CC-CEB will be in POS in the beginning of May

Interesting. I'm still skeptical about the whole thing. I believe Nicholas jumped ship knowing the mess he created and just used a paltry excuse to make an easy exit.

Let's up this will be a success despite its tumultuous beginnings.

Quoting A388 (Reply 7):
Thanks for starting the thread BW424 but you are missing photos of DAE!!!

LOL......sorry bro. I'll make sure to include a couple next time around.

[Edited 2012-04-14 11:53:01]


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25 817Dreamliiner : Interesting, I really thought it would be an error especially since its not a direct route, favorable winds maybe? Good to know that shes back in the
26 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : I believe that 9Y-SXM was down for about a day or two after the incident, it was replaced by another a/c. you and I both hope that this will be succe
27 baje427 : So does anyone know why the AC E190 flew YYZ-BGI did not know if it departed BGI
28 windian425 : The Air Canada E190 is on its way home to Brazil for a maintenance check. Should depart first thing tomorrow morning.
29 baje427 : Thanks for the info thats strange they are going back to Brazil never seen the AC E190 in BGI other than when being delivered was it just a ferry fli
30 817Dreamliiner : If its going for a maintenance check then its more likely a ferry flight with no pax.
31 guyanam : The JFK route cant support a 777. Its best suited to the 737 which allows frequent flights at various times of the day allowing maximum flexibility.
32 2travel2know2 : It looks like LON would be a prestige - hopefully not so much money losing - route for Caribbean. Has anybody at Caribbean headquarters bother to che
33 baje427 : Well I guess CAL can advertise LGW in CCS as they do serve CCS daily maybe if there is significant enough demand they could retime the flights or add
34 BW424 : My point exactly. The ATR is outselling BBD by a siginificant ratio. How is it that CAL is experiencing below par performance from the ATR on the CCS
35 beeweel15 : It could depending on how the aircraft is utilized.
36 Post contains links BW424 : "Nicholas should not have resigned at CAL" "With regard to your news item titled ‘CAL Chairman resigns‘ (SN Apr 5), credit must be given to Mr Geo
37 beeweel15 : Could not agree with you more.
38 GUYAIR707 : Don't take this guy seriously he is known for his nonsense. GUYAIR707
39 Post contains links A388 : Hey guys, this past weekend there were three government aircraft from the U.S. in Curacao. They were two Air Force Two 757's and the Air Force One 747
40 bjorn14 : Hmm...can CTG not handle a 747, it's a 2600m runway?
41 Post contains images yellowtail : Guess they had to park em where the crew and staff could find any party girls
42 2travel2know2 : M ost likely given the number of aircraft flying into CTG for the summit that airport couldn't afford to keep the U.S. presidential B747 on its tarma
43 A388 : I don't know the reasoning for parking their aircraft in Curacao but I can also imagine that parking space was limited in Cartagena and/or Barranquil
44 guyanam : I happen to agree with you on the CCS LGW route which should at least be investigated to see market potential now that its not served by BA anymore.
45 time2lyme : From comments on that web page translated using my pigeon spanish means that CAL will most likely be getting their two PW4060 powered 763s, CC-CEB, w
46 2travel2know2 : I'd say let the CCS-LON-CCS cargo demand decide if it's worth to fly the B767 between POS and CCS.
47 Post contains images A388 : Valid points but the thing is that the arrival and departure times for both markets (CCS-POS and POS-LGW) should be considered as well because if the
48 baje427 : If BA discontinued CCS the yields must not have been good enough but maybe CAL can make it work through convenient connections. On another note heard
49 guyanam : BW can run 4rX/week early afternoon from POS to CCS with a return in time to connect to the LGW bound flight. They can do a late afternoon to CCS 3X/
50 2travel2know2 : Well that looks like a good recipe to improve POS-CCS connectivity. And yes, there's a need for extra capacity between CCS and NYC.
51 A388 : All valid points and maybe good opportunities for Caribbean Airlines to work on it if needed. A388
52 baje427 : Noticed RD 8p-IGB was doing ILS approaches into BGI today does anyone have any updates on the RD situation?
53 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : CAL jet in Mexico New questions over London route DEFUNCT state-owned airline British West Indies Airways (BWIA) dropped the London route because it w
54 Post contains images BW424 : The aircraft is in MEX for heavy maintenance. As for this author; the epitome of double standards and no shame. For a guy who constantly infatuated h
55 aa1818 : Makes perfect sense. That's what many on here have been stressing- that the 767s are a flexible aircraft. Perfectly suited to LHR ops, and also to No
56 Post contains images A388 : Hey guys, See my latest photos taken in CUR: Have you ever seen a KC-135 docked at a passenger boarding bridge? You will now!!! Cheers, A388[Edited 20
57 baje427 : Heard on the news today that CAL will make all members of JALPA redundant in May how will the manage pilot wise with this reduction in pilots?
58 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Air Jamaica name drop concerns Opposition The Opposition is this morning expressing concern that the decision by Caribbean Airlines to drop the Air Ja
59 guyanam : [quote=BW424,reply=54] While this author is known to sensationalize and to not check his facts before opining, there are outstanding issues concerning
60 A388 : Will those Air Jamaica painted 737's all be repainted in Caribbean Airlines colors? If so, when will they start repainting them and when is the last
61 baje427 : CAL just seems like its in a downward spiral I hope they can get their issues rectified as many have stated before CAL should have continued its focus
62 guyanam : CAL needs to focus on governance issues. Dump the board, strengthen its management. Dump the KIN base if it cant be made to work and look at the LGW
63 yellowtail : This happens with every airline merger. not just BW/JM
64 westindian425 : I have been thinking this for a while now. When is elections again? I am not surprised, but I am very disappointed in what is going on at CAL.
65 Post contains links and images A388 : My latest aircraft photo just reached the front page. See it in below link: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photog
66 guyanam : Not sure when elections are but it appears as if Kamla is the savior that people thought she was. Her attitude towards CAL can be seen in other areas
67 BWIA 772 : BW424 any more info you can give me about the just planes thing? Also what is with BW dropping JM name when was this done? Seems that some one here fo
68 guyanam : I meant to say "savior". Sarcasm intended....though you must admit that she did have a honey moon period where she could do no wrong. Thats over thou
69 Post contains images caribbean484 : The honey moon period ended when she lied about the Intelligence agency and went down hill during the state of emergency, more so when she came out i
70 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : One article did say they would rehire about 60 of the pilots. I did read an article that said all a/c were going to be repainted and the JM brand was
71 GUYAIR707 : Congrats on making page 1!!!! GUYAIR707
72 817Dreamliiner : Great pics again A388!
73 LimaFoxTango : Apart from Air France/KLM, I dont know of any other merger where two airlines wanted this "one airline, two brands" deal. I think it was a silly idea
74 beeweel15 : This what I said here at the beginning of this messy merger of JM/BW I also said this a long time ago as it was bad marketing and confusing to custom
75 LimaFoxTango : A few threads back there was a big argument about this. Some were of the view that passengers didn't care or even notice what's written outside the a
76 Post contains images A388 : It is the first time that I admit that I'm getting confused myself with this Caribbean Airlines/Air Jamaica merger. Will those 75 pilot keep their jo
77 Post contains images westindian425 : I must have been on one of my hiatuses and missed this point. This is a very good point. Also, Southwest has decided to keep (for now) themselves sep
78 yellowtail : BA/IB. TA/AV. LA/JJ And lots of Airlines have two brands...for example Qf/JQ
79 Post contains links viasa : ch-aviation reports that the government of St. Lucia set-up a new airline together Intro Aviation. The Austrian operator InterSky (a part of Intro Avi
80 LimaFoxTango : Oh here we go again.
81 baje427 : I guess Intersky has some money it wants to waste.
82 Ahlfors : Well, at least they didn't start in the airline graveyard that is BGI... hopefully St. Lucia will have better luck.
83 baje427 : Well lets see how long approval takes in BGI for flights to operate by that time they too might be out of business.
84 trintocan : Not another one of these. Anyone remember Helenair Caribbean from the mid-90s? They were based in SLU and flew several regional routes. I never flew
85 A388 : The future on keeping both TA/AV brands or integrating them as one brand will be (or is being) discussed so the future of these two brands isn't clea
86 Post contains links and images A388 : Strange that it hasn't been posted here yet. Bahamasair received its first 737-500: View Large View MediumPhoto © Stephen B. Aranha Their livery look
87 guyanam : The problem that CAL outsources its ground services, and is quite arrogantly ignoring frequent complaints about this. This is a major reason for thei
88 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Not relevant, but I thought i would share one of my photos from the 787s visit to MAN with you guys Not the best and the weather didnt help either, bu
89 aa1818 : Nice shot! Can't wait to see it in person! or better yet...to fly her! AA1818
90 817Dreamliiner : Thanks AA1818 was right up to the fence when I took it. Its amazing how quiet this aircraft is! Hopefully I can fly on 1 myself someday.
91 Post contains links baje427 : Nice pics enjoyed seeing the 788 in BGI for humidity testing. Some more Redjet "news" seems the BGI Pm is hinting of lending financial assistance. htt
92 guyanam : I guess the question will eb why do they subsidize AA, except maybe on the DFW route which they canm view as a developmental route. JFK and MIA are t
93 yellowtail : The simple answer is because Governments will never learn that subsidization very rarely works. Growing the demand for the country in these markets d
94 trintocan : This is exactly what I have said on several occasions of late. What have the Caribbean Islands really gained from all the millions being plowed into
95 yellowtail : I have but unfortunately that is privileged information. Irrespective, one need only have gone to the last ROUTES conference and attend the various b
96 baje427 : Well we don't know what threats AA could make if AA left BGI would be in quite a predicament plus on AA side if they could receive a subsidy while fly
97 JM017 : Amen. Amen. Agree 100% And give me another amen....
98 Post contains links caribbean484 : I have said it time and time again that the level of subsidies invested in these airlines are out of control in this region. In the past we were flam
99 MAH4546 : Only DFWBGI, which soon ends, is subsidized.
100 baje427 : Is it being cancelled permanently or is it a seasonal operation ?
101 JM017 : Friend, this is why i am not a fan of tourism and the subsidies. I was always skeptical. I was always told in counterpoint that it increased arrivals
102 guyanam : Why does a 1X/week flight require "millions of dollars (even if they mean Bajan dollars)"? While I can see Bdos being obligated to help support the r
103 yellowtail : But it can be rightly argued (like in the case of the PHX-MBJ subsidy) that those pax would have gone to MBJ anyway via some other hub and that in fa
104 JM017 : I agree completely. This is why I was never a fan of the subsidies. I cannot imagine in this age of megahubs and the reality of having to connect on
105 Post contains images caribbean484 : , In this age of large hubs we have countries continually subsidizing airlines for services with the belief that increase heads will be better in fil
106 GUYAIR707 : Well the problem is that they will lose avid, loyal customers like me if they continue like this. GUYAIR707
107 Post contains links BW424 : "Capt Ian Brunton: CAL chairman, board did not understand roles" "There is need for Caribbean Airlines Ltd (CAL) to be steered in the right direction,
108 bjorn14 : Don't forget the LH Group Temporarily, the market almost always fills profitable gaps.
109 aa1818 : Just to re-iterate what trintocan very eloquently said...sure lots of airlines have two brands or more brands as in the case of LH, but none of them
110 LimaFoxTango : That was the point I was trying to make. Every other airline that maintains two brands do just that. They are separate and distinct companies owned b
111 guyanam : They have been told this often enough, but I guess are too busy building fantasy routes than to tend to the needs of the core matrket which is BGI/KI
112 2travel2know2 : I believe YYZ should too be included to the list.
113 guyanam : Most definitely. I might have edited it out in error before I posted.
114 jmbweeboy : The failure of CAL to "fully" support the JM brand, having done so in a half-hearted manner, is in large part responsible for the bleeding no doubt go
115 LimaFoxTango : It's clear to see that CAL never wanted the JM brand in the first place. I don't know why people think that it was their idea to maintain it. If I re
116 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Agreed, I think that the initial plan of moving towards one brand was should have been maintained. IIRC when Bruton was CEO that seemed to be the pla
117 BW424 : Excellent post! Very comprehensive........you really did the whole strategic plan for CAL justice. It seems people are failing to split the CAL pre-m
118 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Agreed I think CAL would have been better off just letting Air J collapse, and if I remember correctly someone at the time(think it was Inbound) of t
119 Post contains images A388 : My latest photos on airliners.net are the following: My C-25 and my other C-32 photos were rejected unfortunately. A388
120 baje427 : Nice pics CUR looks more like a mall than an airport from the angle of your pic.
121 Post contains images caribbean484 : The plan was to have the Air Jamaica logo on the original a/c like the current fleet, not an entirely different color scheme and the two brands one a
122 guyanam : The issue is that the POS based management never understood the Jamaican mentality. AS many Jcan posters on the other thread said over and over again
123 turk223 : Yep, but I just don't know about the typeface or font used for Bahamasair... Wow. I agree whole-heartedly with every one of the above comments; 'fess
124 guyanam : "Air Jamaica" did collapse. Or more accurately CAL came into the market after theJcan govt let AJ collapse as AJ had no value so no one was going to
125 bjorn14 : Is the BA LGW-ANU-SKB flight still operating or is it seasonal? I couldn't find it on any travel site or BA.
126 guyanam : [quote=bjorn14,reply=125 [/quote] I checked the BA site LGW SKB still operates on Tu and Sat. Chjecked for June and November. They carry 8,300 pax ann
127 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : 9Y-TTG in JM colors
128 baje427 : For some reason the ATR in both CAL and this new Air Jamaica livery don't look good i assume then KIN is not being scaled back then.
129 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Not bad, kinda like it
130 LimaFoxTango : Saw a news headline on CANA News' website the other day indicating American Eagle pulling out of SLU by the end of August. Couldn't read the full arti
131 baje427 : AE is scheduled to end its SJU ops I believe.
132 bjorn14 : Are there any ownership restrictions for an airline based in the CARICOMM?
133 guyanam : From Nov aside from the DR and the US/BVI, only SKB, ANU,DOM and the French Antilles will be serviced. Dont know what will happen in 2013.
134 A388 : I kinda like it a lot just as I have grown to the new Air Jamaica livery now (at first it reminded me of the Pacific Air livery)!!! Will this ATR be
135 baje427 : CAL or BW has never flown their props further North than SLU but anything is possible.
136 LimaFoxTango : Don't keep your hopes up too high.
137 817Dreamliiner : Ive always wondered why though, especially now with their odd timings into ANU from KIN and then onwards. Yes well, if it doesnt last it just doesnt
138 jmbweeboy : 9Y-TTG in Jm colors looks great, even better than the 737-800. I hope I can fly her on a KIN-PAP route in the near future. JMBWEEBOY
139 Post contains images Birdwatching : I just spent an exciting 2 weeks in St Maarten, Saba, St Barth and Anguilla. I started uploading the photos, here are the first two, one of them hit t
140 Post contains images time2lyme : Looks really good. definitely better than the 738. Love the props
141 BWIA 772 : DFW-BGI-DFW will be discontinued on August 18. RIP Does BW plan at any point to be able to their own widebody maintenance? Or more accurately when the
142 andrefranca : Looks great in JM colors..... much better than cal's.
143 Post contains links BWIA 772 : St. Johns Antigua, LI BoD announced the resignation of Acting CEO Brian Challenger effective the end of June 2012 and the appointment of CFO, Julie Re
144 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Great shots! thanks for sharing Hope they find a new CEO soon
145 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Just found this photo posted by A.net on facebook: View Large View MediumPhoto © Marseno Bremer Anyone knows why it was in SXM?
146 A388 : It was doing a flight for Air France what I understood. Nice exotic bird to have so far away from home. A388
147 MAH4546 : Three flights a week mostly. It was only just reduced to weekly. It required it because Barbados was willing to give pay for the flight so AA didn't
148 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Yes, I realized this after reading this thread: TN At SXM (by ordjoe Apr 30 2012 in Civil Aviation) Nice to see a exotic airline in the Caribbean
149 Post contains images caribbean484 :
150 caribbean484 : I believe its because of some slack they are operating a chartered flight from France. Hopefully they find one very soon. The facilities in POS were
151 beeweel15 : The 747 was never able to fit in those hangars Nice pics still wish it was a A330 or 777
152 baje427 : The 767 seems a bit dull in CAL livery good luck to CAL with their 767's. Too bad DFW-BGI did not work I think the government would have been better o
153 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Nice Pics, thanks for sharing
154 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : Looks pretty good, I hope they put the humming bird wings on the winglets. BW526 was pretty smooth on Sunday night. Departed GEO 11:30 PM and we were
155 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Well BW announced a return to BGI twice weekly from 30 June 2012. http://www.caribbean-airlines.com/in...rbados-and-london-to-begin-30-june Best of lu
156 baje427 : Tuesday seems an odd day but will be nice seeing CAL 767 in BGI
157 yellowtail : I am beginning to think that BW has gotten ahold of a DL style dartboard. Seems like they are gonna try LGW to every possibility in the Caribbean and
158 2travel2know2 : POS-SXM-LGW may sound interesting.. Someone already flying scheduled between LON and SXM?
159 trintocan : No, there is no direct flight between London and SXM at the moment. Passengers wishing to fly there need to connect in any of AMS (using KL), CDG (AF
160 Ahlfors : Many also connect in ANU with VS/BA and LI.
161 2travel2know2 : There you've it. Caribbean most likely to try POS-SXM-LGW (among other stop options) soon to check which one will work best. However my favourite opt
162 A388 : What's so special about a direct flight between SXM and London? Is it really needed? Does demand warrant or need a direct flight? A388
163 2travel2know2 : That question needs to be asked to the St Maarten Tourist Board. Maybe they want a LON flight and BW could "cash" on the need for one.
164 guyanam : Want to make CAL aircraft loook more attractive and better reflecting its Caribbean identity. Replace the purple lettering with the old BWIA bouganvil
165 GUYAIR707 : BW526 was sold out, just a few empty seats. However, I changed a pax that was travelling with me to next Sunday's 526 and CAL was very accomodating,
166 A388 : You give the impression that Caribbean Airlines will do it, hence my question. I don't think the Tourism Board of SXM (or any other island for that m
167 guyanam : BW does not even begin to know how to market itself to the leisure trade. ANU gave them a try on the JFK route and they got Antiguans to use them...n
168 A388 : Yes, I also agree with you on this. This is why I'm of the opinion that Caribbean Airlines is better off by serving (or tapping into) the VFR markets
169 trintocan : I agree that they should concentrate on the VFR market as it is more safer to start with. What must be considered though is that the US and UK / EU h
170 GUYAIR707 : Yeah it is r/t. Check this out, DL from 5/26 to 6/4 JFK-GEO-JFK is $478.90, if you use your Delta credit card it's $428.90!! What makes it worse that
171 yellowtail : Don't be so quick on that judgement. What bout the yields up front? Remember CAL costs are actually a bit higher because of the stop in POS
172 caribbean484 : CAL has always had a premium on its flights to GEO to the US and the loads to back it up, despite the competition. The only thing is that POS facilit
173 yellowtail : I would debate that.
174 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : EXCERPTS from a preliminary report on what caused the Caribbean Airlines B-737-800 to skid off the runway at the Cheddi Jagan International Airport in
175 guyanam : Isnt discounting seats on the LON run a major reason why BWIA lost money? They probably had to offer better deals to the wholesalers than the more ma
176 baje427 : CAL has been running several ads on radio here in BGI announcing their London flight not sure the ad will catch bajans but atleast they are marketing
177 Post contains images BWIA 772 : I am a bit surprised you would say so. Given your rhetoric about Caribbean's inability to move beyond the VFR market, one would have thought that you
178 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : one of A388s pics made the top views on the homepage: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography nice pic A388!
179 Post contains images A388 : Awesome, thanks for posting it here my friend!!! A388
180 beeweel15 : Why cant they advertise in BD$ I mean come on already advertise the price in the local market. I dont see AA ads in London for flights to the US with
181 LimaFoxTango : Sounds cheaper when quoted in USD. Just a mind thing i guess and very common down these parts. However, for an airline like LI that deals with USD, E
182 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : No problem! Anyone knows when the 767 is heading to POS? should be sometime soon I hope.
183 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : PLANE SHOCK CAL made $339m loss contrary to profit declared by former chairman Caribbean Airlines Ltd (CAL) recorded a consolidated unaudited loss of
184 GUYAIR707 : Feels like the good old days of BWIA. I assume the chasing behind REDjet and EZjet has beared fruit. GUYAIR707
185 baje427 : Its sad whats happening at CAL but not surprising do you guys think we will see another closure and restart such as that done to BW?
186 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Sad news from SXM. It appears a Medivac aircraft from Grand-Case enroute to FDF went down just off the coast of St. Maarten. PHILIPSBURG - An aircraft
187 817Dreamliiner : I hope not, its only a while ago I got used to the name Caribbean Airlines (especially since everyone else around me was still calling it BWIA 3 year
188 BWIA 772 : No there is no need for another Trini style Chapter 11. The problem with CAL is the current administration of the GROTT. The last administration made
189 Caymanair : To be honest those losses shouldn't surprise anyone. The GoRTT has been mismanaging the carrier's affairs ever since they came in to power and there h
190 baje427 : Anyone know why AA 1385 JFK-BGI was cancelled today?
191 baje427 : Two F18's and a KC10 departed BGI this morning.
192 Post contains links LIA310 : If they headed south, they're going to an airshow in Brazil. www.fumaca60anos.com.br There are also some RCAF aircraft on the ground at Piarco.
193 guyanam : Based on your use of the 526 and the fact that it was full whats your opinion of it? Consider that with EZjet andDelta both doing nonstops CAL could
194 GUYAIR707 : Interesting that a pax came on 526 last night and told me that it was 2/3 to 3/4 full so I am wondering whether my flight was the tail end of the Eas
195 westindian425 : I am having a serious problem with this quote. If the leading edge slats and/or flaps were not extended upon landing, the EGPWS should have alerted t
196 A388 : My first reaction when seeing the incident photos were also why the slats/flaps were not extended. I agree that this system is too critical and the o
197 GUYAIR707 : A/c is in GEO in the old Guyana Airways Corp. hanger which is south of the Terminal, visible from the southern end of the main runway 6/24. As far as
198 Post contains links BigMac : Here's a mini trip report on PY 422 MIA-GEO-PBM that I took on May 5th... Check-in personnel was very friendly (even though I was very late)... Boardi
199 A388 : Nice short report BigMac. To my knowledge the 733 doesn't have the option to put video monitors so that doesn't surprise me. Looks like you had nice
200 guyanam : As I have said for years CAL/BWIA are/were not loved by the Guyanese largely, because of bad treatment at Piarco and also the fact that others offer
201 guyanam : What were the loads on the MIA GEO sector?
202 Post contains links divemaster08 : Cayman Airways gets approval for DFW service as found here Cayman Airways Announces DFW (by LAXintl May 8 2012 in Civil Aviation) Sounds like another
203 Post contains links baje427 : Seems the RD drama continues Ian Burns is out Geoffrey O’Byrne White is in according to this article http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/redjet-
204 A388 : I just read on the Colombian thread that a Caribbean Airlines ATR72-600 is in Colombia doing demonstration flights for Avianca. I read before that a C
205 BigMac : Thanks! The meal was indeed surprising and good... Very rare indeed... guyanam, I'd say about 80%... Not bad for a new route (but honestly I was expe
206 BW424 : Well, the aircraft is still ATR's. It's still under an F- registration. CAL hasn't fulfilled their financial obligation to receive them as a result o
207 A388 : Okay that clarifies it. I can imagine the airline's permission is needed and should the aircraft be damaged during those demonstration flights, the b
208 Post contains images GUYAIR707 : Caught this pic on Saturday at JFK of the Space Shuttle Enterprise on it's way to the Intrepid on the Hudson River. GUYAIR707
209 A388 : Cool picture GUYAIR707. Where will it be positioned at the Intrepid? Are both the Shuttle and 741 going to be on display there permanently??? A388
210 GUYAIR707 : Thanks, as far as I read it will be just the Enterprise and it will be on the main deck. GUYAIR707
211 westindian425 : The 747 can't fit on the Intrepid! They're doing a lot to just prepare a space for the Shuttle! My hopes is eventually, the museum will create either
212 Post contains links and images beeweel15 : Here are some pics from the day it arrived: Here it is over Queens enroute for the fly by (the spec in the middle of the photo) PICT0018 by bewel15,
213 A388 : That is what I thaught too, hence my question... A388
214 Post contains images GUYAIR707 : I know this is not as good as yours A388 but I tried (LOL). Last shot, I think this one is a little better than the last. I saw this shuttle at the Ai
215 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Caribbean Airlines maintains late night Tobago flights THE NEW late-night Caribbean Airlines Limited (CAL) service to Tobago will be maintained and po
216 Post contains links AA1818 : CAL/Air Jamaica to drop unprofitable routes Interesting times ahead for Caribbean Airlines! I hope things improve drastically. AA1818
217 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : "“This runway meets international standards and is now in the class of 4,200 feet long by 100 feet wide 2C Regional Runway,” he said. He enlighten
218 AA1818 : Glad these have been maintained. From what I understand, these flights are absolutely full on a Friday night with stand-by passengers trying to get o
219 guyanam : Oh well I would hope by now no one disputes the fact that the KIN base is in deep trouble and that CAL will either have to fix this problem, or drop
220 BW424 : This is common knowledge to most of us thread patrons on here. But, the article potently depicts the strong position all round CAL was in when the Lo
221 Post contains images A388 : Great nice photo GUYAIR707 and thanks for the information What are the chances of the SXM flights being axed altogether? And what about Air Jamaica s
222 LimaFoxTango : Can't really see that one happening. From the outside looking in, I think quite a few Trinidadians go to SXM for vacation while there is a quite a Ja
223 guyanam : This means that LIAT will probably jump in doing flights to BGI and maybe PBM and POS. This will force BW to send its ATRs to safeguard its regional
224 817Dreamliiner : Great pics guys, Thanks for sharing them, I always wanted to see a space shuttle, unfortunately haven't gotten my chance yet. Anyone know when the 76
225 trintocan : Oh dear friends, things are really going sour for BW. I have looked on for a little while but now feel compelled to comment on several issues. To sta
226 Post contains images westindian425 : Here's a thought: how about the people of CAL as well as Trinidad & Tobago start a petition to have the previous board -- the one with a proven hi
227 Post contains links caribbean484 : We can all say unequivocally that the current board at CAL/JM placed the airline in this current position and now there is a big mess to fix, BWIA sty
228 BWIA 772 : Wow now this is some mismanagement that one expects from an administration that has been in government for over 10 years not barely 2 years! Regards
229 guyanam : From a purely economic point of view it matters not whether BW took over JMs routes or whether Jca became highly reliant on foreign carriers. The rea
230 yellowtail : BW need to take a careful look at their business plan right now. LGW will be a disaster. The only question is how long will BW be on it before their p
231 Post contains links and images BWIA 772 : Look this thread has been an ongoing one for 4.5 years... I suggest you read some of the older ones - you can ignore the posts just check the links t
232 BW424 : This is something which baffles me. Half a decade of info readily available and persons still spout erroneous info and opinions. Heading down on BW 4
233 beeweel15 : I faintly remember LH looking to buy out OA but nothing like whats happening in the Caribbean between CAL and JM. They could have made it work but th
234 guyanam : If LGW will be a disaster with 900 pax per week, what will GRU be? How many people travel between POS and GRU? A broke airline cant afford to fly spe
235 yellowtail : You have never ever looked at the GRU market in detail, have you? Do you have any idea how many people a week CM is carrying between GRU and SXM/NAS/
236 baje427 : Exactly how much is a lot? Based on the figures fro the BTA GOL on average carries 105 passengers on the GRU-BGI flight but I do thonk a POS-GRU flig
237 yellowtail : I wan't talking about solely O&D between GRU and POS....but if BW were able to take page out of the CM book and provide connections to BGI, TAB,
238 A388 : Does anyone here know a Caribbean Airlines ATR72-600 chose Bonaire as a stopover on its way to French Guyana yesterday? It overnighted in Bonaire on f
239 LimaFoxTango : I guess that was the one doing demo flights in South America. Pity its going all the way back to France instead of POS.
240 A388 : That is sad but I would like to know why they chose Bonaire as their fuel stop seeing that they could have chosen Aruba or Curacao as well... A388
241 2travel2know2 : Right now I can't visualize BW flying to GRU, no matter how attractive loads would be, provided POS gives the connections GRU wants and BW happens to
242 yellowtail : Exactly my point....BW need to start thinking of POS as a hub
243 A388 : Flying from Venezuela to the U.S. is very expensive which now leads to only the rich or wealthier people being able to travel. As a result the fares
244 2travel2know2 : From CCS it would be a one-stop flight to IAH. There's a question of miles earned, but some people would choose a one-stop over a connection in PTY o
245 A388 : You clearly suggested a CCS-POS-KIN-IAH routing so it isn't a one-stop connection but two stops. I do agree that MIA isn't always a connecting point
246 yellowtail : Remember Viasa used to serve IAH. The market is there but it is constrained right now by lack of flights and high fares. People are not opposed to a
247 2travel2know2 : See the quote from what I wrote:
248 A388 : Even in this case, what's the point in flying CCS-KIN if that market isn't worth it (you also say that the CCS-KIN market is minimal). Why do this ro
249 2travel2know2 : Because BW may have an easy time from Venezuelan authorities to get rights for a POS-CCS-KIN-IAH than for a POS-CCS-IAH? If thanks to Trinidad-Venezu
250 A388 : The aviation authorities in Venezuela aren't stupid so they will not grant them those rights that easily. Granting access to the U.S. from Venezuela
251 guyanam : If Guyanese complain about how backward CALs intransit arrangements are what makes you think that they know or care how tod evelop a POS hub? A broke
252 yellowtail : Why bother trying if you might succeed.
253 Post contains links BW424 : New thread up Sub Umbra Floreo - Caribbean Aviation Thread 98 (by BW424 May 14 2012 in Civil Aviation)
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