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UA To Resume FLL-IAD  
User currently offlineshadez From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 196 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6915 times:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...o-raleigh-fort-lauderdale/671046/1

1x daily 738 effective Nov. 4 with a second season flight during the winter.

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User currently offlinejonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 672 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6830 times:

Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?

User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6807 times:

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?

True, but 1x daily won't trigger any price wars, and UA has a large enough base to work with.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6808 times:

Oh we all KNEW this was coming. It's been too long! Well done again, UA.

What year did UA drop IAD-FLL/PBI?



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User currently offlinejetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6749 times:

In the column, the last sentence says 'United will be the only carrier flying nonstop between Dulles and Fort Lauderdale'.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32177 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6749 times:

This is the third try in as many years. CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.


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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6704 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.



a.

I'm not sure if this is true.



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User currently offlineflyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6613 times:

In the column, the last sentence says 'United will be the only carrier flying nonstop between Dulles and



This is true since B6 will be consolidating its ops at DCA with the exception of their west coast cities, JFK and BOS

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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6505 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
This is the third try in as many years. CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.

I know CO started ORD-FLL and DEN-FLL just after the merger...but didn't they cancel DEN-FLL recently?


User currently offlinerdh3e From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1459 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6505 times:

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?

UA also has never had (until the merger) access to a partner on the other end. But with Silver Airways, formerly Gulfstream, having their base there, they should be able to draw some higher yielding connections onto those flights. Mostly into Jamaica and the near Caribbean type places.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6414 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 8):

Seasonal -- it still operates:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...4/history/20120412/1930Z/KFLL/KDEN

According to wikipedia, UAEX has a "hub" at FLL for Silver Airways which as stated leads to some high yield connection opportunities. Wonder if a LAX-FLL or SFO-FLL is next considering ORD, CLE, IAD, EWR, IAH, and DEN are already served?



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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6312 times:

Very nice to see them return!!

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?

Not from IAD. I suspect B6's withdrawal from FLL-IAD is the reason they are entering the market again.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6838 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6298 times:

Quoting shadez (Thread starter):
http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...o-raleigh-fort-lauderdale/671046/1

1x daily 738 effective Nov. 4 with a second season flight during the winter.
Quoting jetpixx (Reply 4):
In the column, the last sentence says 'United will be the only carrier flying nonstop between Dulles and Fort Lauderdale'.

It's truly amazing that the route was going to be unserved. Makes sense for UA.


User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7387 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6026 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 8):
...but didn't they cancel DEN-FLL recently?

That was UA MIA-DEN,I think.



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User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

UA had Gulfstream/SIlver as a codeshare...not Express...from FLL and MIA and TPA and MCO back prior to Chapt 11. IADFLL on CO never started. Route will be run with 738...s-co metal as of now.

User currently offlineiadbudd From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5736 times:

This will be good for the Cruise ship traffic out of FLL and the deadheading UA crew members that fly out of IAD and still live down in the long since closed MIA crew base. It just basically picks up the slack of Jet Blue dropping IAD-FLL.

User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5689 times:
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Quoting washingtonian (Reply 11):
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?

Not from IAD. I suspect B6's withdrawal from FLL-IAD is the reason they are entering the market again.

NK flies from DCA -- with additional FL/WN service from BWI


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3176 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5621 times:

Makes you wonder why B6 is axing the route.

Oh wait...they bid for slots without the aircraft to fly them! My bad...almost forgot


User currently offlineSWALUV From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5535 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 17):
they bid for slots without the aircraft to fly them!

So is this the reason they are stopping IAD-MCO?  


User currently offlineJasonCRH From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 282 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5207 times:

Incorrect. CO metal never served IADFLL after the merger. They started ORDFLL but never IAD. This will be the first UA service since UA discontinued in 2008



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MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 30282 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted Fri Apr 13 2012 12:29:23 your local time (6 hours 22 minutes 45 secs ago) and read 1534 times:

This is the third try in as many years. CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.


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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3236 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4929 times:

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1):
Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?

To an extent, but UA will probably be targeting passengers connecting onward from IAD. NK's fare structure means that they compete more with Greyhound than they do with other airlines on their routes.

Quoting hiflyer (Reply 14):
UA had Gulfstream/SIlver as a codeshare...not Express...from FLL and MIA and TPA and MCO back prior to Chapt 11.

I believe the flights were marketed as Continental Connection and United Express, though the aircraft themselves did wear CO colors. Indeed, the new 3M colors displayed a clear influence.


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User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4903 times:

Quoting iadbudd (Reply 15):
This will be good for the Cruise ship traffic out of FLL and the deadheading UA crew members that fly out of IAD and still live down in the long since closed MIA crew base.

Indeed! I was beginning to feel a little sorry for those UA crewmembers; B6 was somewhat a "UA crew shuttle" between So. Fla and IAD...
As for UA's business, any guesses on whether this route will be sustainable now that UA will have zero competition on IAD-FLL? From my experience, B6's loads have usually been pretty healthy between those two airports year-round, but I couldn't tell you how the yields were; I'm guessing DCA-FLL is knocking them out of the ballpark (or is about to).



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

Would anyone dare to call FLL a focus city? I am surprised that that UA can compete at FLL since it is such a LCC airport...

I will definately explore UA ORD-FLL-Bahamas for my next winter vacation...


User currently offlinecanyonblue17 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10):
Wonder if a LAX-FLL or SFO-FLL is next considering ORD, CLE, IAD, EWR, IAH, and DEN are already served?

FLL to SFO and LAX are currently served by Virgina America


User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4280 times:

So JetBlue is dropping their IAD to Florida service but will keep IAD-BOS/JFK and west coast?

25 FSDan : True. And FLL-LAX also has AA and NK. I don't think they'll be jumping on that one in a hurry. Edit: Oh, and I forgot B6.[Edited 2012-04-13 23:35:53]
26 NASBWI : That's correct. BOS-IAD will also be dropping in frequency, but there's still a market for the west coast that seems attractive to B6. Once the pull-
27 OB1504 : B6 also flies FLL-SFO, and a few miles down I-95, we've got AA on MIA-SFO and DL also on MIA-LAX.
28 STT757 : UA definitely has the best digs at FLL. B6 and NK's terminals are lousy.
29 TOMMY767 : I could see FLL-SFO with a 73G or 738 eventually....maybe. Plus they got a United Club too that is relatively new.
30 OB1504 : Agreed. UA flies out of Terminal 1, which opened less than ten years ago, while B6 and NK use the 1980s-era Terminals 3 and 4, respectively. B6 used
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