jonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 639 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5783 times:
Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
mogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5760 times:
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1): Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
True, but 1x daily won't trigger any price wars, and UA has a large enough base to work with.
rdh3e From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1085 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5458 times:
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1): Good, nice to see UA finally acknowledging the South Florida market. Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
UA also has never had (until the merger) access to a partner on the other end. But with Silver Airways, formerly Gulfstream, having their base there, they should be able to draw some higher yielding connections onto those flights. Mostly into Jamaica and the near Caribbean type places.
According to wikipedia, UAEX has a "hub" at FLL for Silver Airways which as stated leads to some high yield connection opportunities. Wonder if a LAX-FLL or SFO-FLL is next considering ORD, CLE, IAD, EWR, IAH, and DEN are already served?
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United_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7176 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4979 times:
Quoting United787 (Reply 8): ...but didn't they cancel DEN-FLL recently?
That was UA MIA-DEN,I think.
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hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2123 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4937 times:
UA had Gulfstream/SIlver as a codeshare...not Express...from FLL and MIA and TPA and MCO back prior to Chapt 11. IADFLL on CO never started. Route will be run with 738...s-co metal as of now.
iadbudd From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 100 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4689 times:
This will be good for the Cruise ship traffic out of FLL and the deadheading UA crew members that fly out of IAD and still live down in the long since closed MIA crew base. It just basically picks up the slack of Jet Blue dropping IAD-FLL.
JasonCRH From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 252 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4160 times:
Incorrect. CO metal never served IADFLL after the merger. They started ORDFLL but never IAD. This will be the first UA service since UA discontinued in 2008
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MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 30282 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted Fri Apr 13 2012 12:29:23 your local time (6 hours 22 minutes 45 secs ago) and read 1534 times:
This is the third try in as many years. CO tried IADFLL not long after the merger.
OB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2975 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3882 times:
Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 1): Although aren't they going to be competing with NK and B6?
To an extent, but UA will probably be targeting passengers connecting onward from IAD. NK's fare structure means that they compete more with Greyhound than they do with other airlines on their routes.
Quoting hiflyer (Reply 14): UA had Gulfstream/SIlver as a codeshare...not Express...from FLL and MIA and TPA and MCO back prior to Chapt 11.
I believe the flights were marketed as Continental Connection and United Express, though the aircraft themselves did wear CO colors. Indeed, the new 3M colors displayed a clear influence.
NASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1255 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3856 times:
Quoting iadbudd (Reply 15): This will be good for the Cruise ship traffic out of FLL and the deadheading UA crew members that fly out of IAD and still live down in the long since closed MIA crew base.
Indeed! I was beginning to feel a little sorry for those UA crewmembers; B6 was somewhat a "UA crew shuttle" between So. Fla and IAD...
As for UA's business, any guesses on whether this route will be sustainable now that UA will have zero competition on IAD-FLL? From my experience, B6's loads have usually been pretty healthy between those two airports year-round, but I couldn't tell you how the yields were; I'm guessing DCA-FLL is knocking them out of the ballpark (or is about to).
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3514 times:
Would anyone dare to call FLL a focus city? I am surprised that that UA can compete at FLL since it is such a LCC airport...
I will definately explore UA ORD-FLL-Bahamas for my next winter vacation...
canyonblue17 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 370 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3276 times:
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10): Wonder if a LAX-FLL or SFO-FLL is next considering ORD, CLE, IAD, EWR, IAH, and DEN are already served?
FLL to SFO and LAX are currently served by Virgina America
doulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 356 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3233 times:
So JetBlue is dropping their IAD to Florida service but will keep IAD-BOS/JFK and west coast?
25 FSDan: True. And FLL-LAX also has AA and NK. I don't think they'll be jumping on that one in a hurry. Edit: Oh, and I forgot B6.[Edited 2012-04-13 23:35:53]
26 NASBWI: That's correct. BOS-IAD will also be dropping in frequency, but there's still a market for the west coast that seems attractive to B6. Once the pull-
27 OB1504: B6 also flies FLL-SFO, and a few miles down I-95, we've got AA on MIA-SFO and DL also on MIA-LAX.
28 STT757: UA definitely has the best digs at FLL. B6 and NK's terminals are lousy.
29 TOMMY767: I could see FLL-SFO with a 73G or 738 eventually....maybe. Plus they got a United Club too that is relatively new.
30 OB1504: Agreed. UA flies out of Terminal 1, which opened less than ten years ago, while B6 and NK use the 1980s-era Terminals 3 and 4, respectively. B6 used
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