Juul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2060 times:
Lufthansa is scaling back some operations (like many are) bacause of the current economic situation. If they order A380, they'll only be delivered in about 5 years. By then this economic slump should long be gone and forgotten.
P&M From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1949 times:
Sizing down frequencies makes sense. Less flights = less costs. LH will be able to carry more passengers and cargo while cutting down the number of trans-oceanic/pacific flights when they operate A380's.
The Hub-Spoke system which has been buildt up ( still growing ) during the last two decades is the way to go.
Point to Point only works on a way smaller scale because it is too expensive and unflexible.
In the future only Airlines which operate Mega Jumbos will be considered " Global players " .
CstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1941 times:
Lufthansa to buy four 747s, wants 5 or 6 A380s
FRANKFURT, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Deutsche Lufthansa AG (quote from Yahoo! UK & Ireland: LHAG.F) plans to buy four 747-400s from Boeing Co (NYSE:BA - news) and cannot do without the giant Airbus A380 model, Chief Executive Juergen Weber said in a magazine article published on Monday.
In statements revealing that Airbus has another A380 customer in the bag, Weber said that Lufthansa could use five or six A380s and that the management would make a recommendation on the aircraft to the company's supervisory board in September.
Johnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1937 times:
this economic downturn not only hits airlines but aircraft manufactureres as well, so they need to sell their aircraft. so there´s a possibly a chance that LH gets a very good price from airbus, who knows?
btw, as Juul already pointed out, the economic slowdown will be over when the a380 comes out so i think there´s no big problem with that...
btw, Jürgen Weber repeatedly stated that the prime routes on which they could definitively use an a380 in a couple of years would be FRA-JFK, -DEL, -SIN and
If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
Greg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1934 times:
Your comments are meant to criticize US airlines for not ordering the 380. Having by far the largest airlines in the world (and generating 50% of all RPK's on a 'global' basis) you can not say that UA, AA, NW, or CO are not 'Global Players.' They are.
The 380 is an evolutionary design. It does not bring anything new to the table but higher capacity. This does not appeal to all carriers and their marketing strategies.
I think the 380 is a great idea--for certain carriers. But the ideal that 'bigger is best' does not hold true in today's economy.
P&M From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
Greg, I don't criticize any Airline for not ordering A380's. But I do think that within the next 10-15 years only those Airlines will have success on the Intercontinental market which will make the best use out of the dominating Hub's.
And the A380 is the right tool to feed this growing market.
The Airlines in the US which you mentioned are huge but their bread and butter business is the domestic traffic.
BTW, I guess that sooner or later some US Airlines will order A380's too.
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1908 times:
I think it's a bit presumptuous to suggest the US or Global economy is going to rise and fall based on A380 delivery schedules, as was hinted in a previous post.
Japan has been suffering from an "economic downturn" for a decade.
The reality is the United States will have a budget deficit again before next summer if things (a sour economy and a congress run by people who think government can run on 10 or 12 bucks a day) continue the way they are.
The A380 will see passenger success primarily in the areas the 747-400 did...Asia and the Pacific Rim. It's simply not the kind of plane most US airlines need.