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KLM 747 Arrangement Question  
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7859 posts, RR: 19
Posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4623 times:

If you guys look at this plane from today's top 5:


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You see between the two doors on the starboard side that a row of windows doesn't exist. What's over there on KL's 747s? Are these the galleys or lavs or something?

Sorry if this is a repost from a while ago


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User currently onlineardian From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4538 times:

The galley is located over there, as you can see on this seatmap. Thai and Garuda are other airlines who happen to have this kind of layout onboard of their B744's if I'm not mistaken. KLM used to have their Royal Class (F) in the nose section, and that's why they implemented this galley-layout.

It definitely looks like a cozy place to hang out for the FA's:


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User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 812 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4538 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
You see between the two doors on the starboard side that a row of windows doesn't exist. What's over there on KL's 747s? Are these the galleys or lavs or something?

KLM 747s have galleys there.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KLM/KLM_Boeing_747-400_full.php


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

Pan Am's 747SPs also had that longitudinal galley option.

User currently offlinequiet1 From Thailand, joined Apr 2010, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

But, PA kept the cabin windows the full length of the "longitudinal galley" on the SP. The PA galley was only on the inboard side, whereas it looks like KL has galley on the window/outboard side as well?

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

Quoting quiet1 (Reply 4):
But, PA kept the cabin windows the full length of the "longitudinal galley" on the SP. The PA galley was only on the inboard side, whereas it looks like KL has galley on the window/outboard side as well?

TG has the same type of galley on their 747s (TG 744 photo below) as Pan Am had had on their SPs, retaining the windows. KL has much more storage space in their 747 galleys with storage units on both sides.


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User currently offlinekl5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

KL had this kind of galley arrangement (although a bit smaller) also in their 747-200's (from PH-BUH onwards, even before their SUD conversion) and 747-300's

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Their first batch of 747's (PH-BUA/B/C/D/E/G) was converted in a similar way in 1979/1980

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User currently offlineflylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3367 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
Pan Am's 747SPs also had that longitudinal galley option.

You beat me to it. I recall that from an old UA seating guide.

Did any carriers elect for the lower deck galley on their 400s or was it not offered on that model? I take it KLM does not have them.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3256 times:

Quoting flylku (Reply 7):
Did any carriers elect for the lower deck galley on their 400s or was it not offered on that model?

I doubt it was offered on the 744. As far as I know only some -100s and -200s had the lower deck galley.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7859 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2954 times:

I see, very interesting, thanks guys!


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