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Texas Senator Tells Airlines To Leave AA Alone  
User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3029 posts, RR: 4
Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13544 times:

Fair use from USA Today:

U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison has a message for any company that wants to take over bankrupt American Airlines: Back off.

In a statement released late last week, the Republican from Texas said she was disturbed by "public reports about hostile takeovers involving American Airlines, including another airline that is communicating directly with American's creditors and unions."

More here, but an interesting development: http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...s-to-leave-american-alone/673575/1

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User currently offlineBoeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13513 times:

I don't see why she is telling airlines to back off, obviously he has not read articles saying that if the company would merge it would still be based in Texas, not moving to Phoenix....

[Edited 2012-04-16 20:05:07]


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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7499 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13494 times:

I don't know that there is much she can do about it.

As a Texas resident, I'm not worried because there probably wouldn't be much bloodshed here. DFW would more than likely retain the HQ and the hub size.

[Edited 2012-04-16 19:42:14]


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User currently offlineflyingcaT From United States of America, joined May 2007, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13490 times:

She must be afraid of losing her free upgrades

User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6204 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13443 times:

Kay Bailey Hutchison is a she not a he, anywho, I read the Oklahome governor was also expressing her concern over a takeover. I guess Mr. Horton is calling in favors from politician friends.

Regards,

Chepos

[Edited 2012-04-16 19:45:29]


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User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1113 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13414 times:

Quoting chepos (Reply 4):
Kay Bailey Hutchison is a she not a he, anywho, I read the Oklahome governor was also expressing her concern over a takeover.

She did, it was in the Dallas Morning News Aviation blog.

But this is already under discussion in

US "Officially" After AA Merger (by OzarkD9S Apr 9 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7499 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13412 times:

Quoting chepos (Reply 4):

That's nothing new. The politicians in Georgia had a field day when US tried to take over DL.



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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13280 times:

Why would she be worried? If US were ever to bid for AA, the first thing they'd do is promise the HQ remains at DFW in order to "buy votes" - regardless which site is cheaper, larger, or more advanced.

They can always bait-n-switch later.


User currently offlinehz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1656 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13203 times:
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Seems more like something to say to get on the record and play at election time. A single senator cannot do a whole lot, but could introduce bills to committees and force subpeonas and make life generally unpleasant. But not really stop it.

In general, I don't think it a truly terrible idea with UA, DL, having already merged with CO, and NW, it would make sense to keep up with the Jones's even if we all saw what happened to Gary Coleman in the film. She should be more open minded and think about what happens if a merger doesn't take place. Would AA be in a better place?



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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2991 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13202 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 1):
I don't see why he is telling airlines to back off, obviously he has not read articles saying that if the company would merge it would still be based in Texas, not moving to Phoenix....

Or maybe the company that would buy AA would have their headquarters in Seattle.  


User currently offlineBoeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13184 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):

I don't see why AS would be interested in the mess of AA right now, I don't really see what AS would be able to befit out of the merger/acquisition besides the new planes and a more national brand name. Maybe that would actually work out pretty well though....

Oh wait, unions.....

[Edited 2012-04-16 20:53:09]


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39699 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13155 times:

Quoting flyingcaT (Reply 3):
She must be afraid of losing her free upgrades

        

Quoting hz747300 (Reply 8):
Seems more like something to say to get on the record and play at election time.

She is retiring this year. She isn't up for re-election.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
Or maybe the company that would buy AA would have their headquarters in Seattle.

Alaska wants to merge with American?



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User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3589 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13073 times:

Just another politician with an oversized sense of self importance.

Republican or Democrat, they all have no idea how real profit companies work or how real people live.

She will have no influence, especially as a lame duck.

[Edited 2012-04-16 20:25:40]

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13012 times:

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 12):
Republican or Democrat, they all have no idea how real profit companies work

This is OT but i'd have to disagree. Most politicians come from either a businss or law background and many VERY rich (not from their government pay checks).



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User currently offlinehomsaR From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12830 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
Or maybe the company that would buy AA would have their headquarters in Seattle.
Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 10):

But why would Boeing buy AA.....?

Boeing isn't headquartered in Seattle.

(I know you were kidding, but still, I'm just saying...)



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User currently offlineripcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12758 times:

diamondflyer...All AA did was give TWA employees a job making more money than they were making, cause if AA didnt buy TWA those employees would have been on the street from day 1. AA (stupid) was the only airline that was going to buy them and keep most of TWA routes(had the intention) So since AA was in drivers seat in the buyout the Unions had pull and did what they were supposed to do which was protect their employees. If US buys AA I would suspect the same type of argement will be made. If it is a merger then I would expect a date of hire senority list.

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12646 times:

LOL. I can just envision a single tear rolling down her cheek as she wrote this.

User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 12265 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 6):
That's nothing new. The politicians in Georgia had a field day when US tried to take over DL.

Yeah Rep James Oberstar (D) MN had a fit over the NW/DL merger said essentially the same thing. Funny how he didn't say a word when NW tossed all their mechanics to the street in 2005. He can kiss my arse and so can all the other clowns in congress. Airlines will do what is best for their bottom line.



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User currently offlinekordcj From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12164 times:

That senator is crazy. She advocates for a bunch of crap she has no idea about. The senate launch system NASA is building is her doing. She's trying to kill commercial crew, apparently unaware that Boeing and SpaceX are planning major ops in Texas. Good riddance when she retires. The aerospace industry as a whole will finally be able to think a little without the poison she has injected into it.


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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2351 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12157 times:

If AA is calling in all its political muscle, then we could hear from Dick Durbin-IL, Dianne Feinstein-CA, Barbara Boxer-CA, Marco Rubio-FL, and Charles Schumer-NY.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 2):
I don't know that there is much she can do about it.

I wouldn't underestimate one politician, especially one who has nothing to lose. Sen McCain raised Cain when UA tried to buy US(HP)



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User currently offlineNUAir From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12052 times:

Yeah I can't think of a single Texas based company that has been involved in a hostile takeover of another financially strapped company  

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User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11454 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 1):
I don't see why she is telling airlines to back off, obviously he has not read articles saying that if the company would merge it would still be based in Texas, not moving to Phoenix....

I stand corrected but I think her husband has a big job with DFW, perhaps legal counsel for the airport. I cant remember the details.

There are some rumors in DC that some how, some way, a way might be found to extend the Wright amendment so that it doesnt expire about the same time AA is trying to get back on its feet emerging from bankruptcy. I dont know if she is the one who is thinking about propopsing the legislatrion or not.

Frankly, I think nothing will come of it but it is a rumor in DC.

[Edited 2012-04-17 05:26:10]

[Edited 2012-04-17 05:27:14]

User currently offlinewjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5116 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10631 times:

Time to reread my dogeared copy of "Atlas Shrugged".

Sigh.


User currently offlinepar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7065 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10415 times:

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 12):
Republican or Democrat, they all have no idea how real profit companies work or how real people live.
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 13):
This is OT but i'd have to disagree. Most politicians come from either a businss or law background and many VERY rich (not from their government pay checks).

The Senate is not called a Millionaires Club for nothing, especially since they are so before entering the chamber. If they lack anything it is the ability to be frugal with the people's money the way they are with theirs.


User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9239 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 13):
Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 12):
Republican or Democrat, they all have no idea how real profit companies work

This is OT but i'd have to disagree. Most politicians come from either a businss or law background and many VERY rich (not from their government pay checks).

Exactly. Many are from business backgrounds, and they got there promising voters budget minded business owners would bring fiscal responsibility to Washington. Oh, wait...that worked out really well. One thing people fail to realize, one of the biggest problems that businesses have.....too much debt. But they only get rich building a company with someone else's money.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
Or maybe the company that would buy AA would have their headquarters in Seattle.

Alaska wants to merge with American?

Sure, right after they merge with Delta.
 


25 asteriskceo : Just another example of a Republican leader screaming in support of the free market until it affects their constituency.
26 737tdi : Isn't that the way it is supposed to be. I want my representation to reflect what I want. Not what someone in New York or Cali. wants. Kay Bailey has
27 D L X : No, it's the height of hypocrisy. You can't scream that government should not be involved in business, and then get involved in business when it's a
28 Post contains images United727 : I think you meant "CHICAGO"!!!
29 catiii : I don't think she's ever screamed that government should not be involved in business though...
30 Post contains images asteriskceo : That's what we call spin. If your *core* value is supporting the free market, and then you turn around and tell the free market to keep its hands off
31 asteriskceo : You can scream via your voting record. Take a look at hers.
32 Post contains images PHX787 : We have been discussing this, we aren't 100% on any sort of move yet, should a merger occur. You don't know the beginning, politicians are very much
33 catiii : I did. Given her position on the Commerce Committee which has oversight over the FAA and aviation, it hasn't been exactly an antiregulatory record. S
34 AS739BSI : What is no and not in any future? AA gets more benefits from code share.
35 PanAm1971 : Actually... I wouldn't take this lightly. She is very influencial... and it would be a big mistake to take these southern senators lightly. They can m
36 PanAm1971 : 1) Because she can... and has real power. 2) She may be hearing things not available to the public (often presented by lobbyist.)
37 milesrich : I imagine, that Howard Putnam, who is a consultant and speaker in Carlsbad, CA, and Harding Lawrence who has passed on, are not only smiling, but won
38 Post contains images zippyjet : Got to keep those self interests in tow. W and Lon Dick Chaney had/have stake in AMR. Gotta make that $$$
39 KC135TopBoom : Actually, most politicians were a failure at business and their 'law practice'. Some were only 'community organizers'. She also saw the writing on th
40 Post contains images einsteinboricua : But doesn't she belong to the party that encourages a free market? So all this time they never really stick to what they preach? Wow...
41 PHXA340 : If we think it is bad now ... wait until Gov Jan Brewer of AZ starts talking in support now of US for the takeover.
42 catiii : Where did you see that? Let's face it, no one has ever let the airline industry operate in a truly free market.
43 zippyjet : I work in the industry and we get the inside scoop on stuff. And AMR having headquarters in the republic of Texas.
44 catiii : That's interesting, because W.'s public financial disclosures tell a different story. Must be bad scoop.
45 aztrainer : Well, since there are way more tax breaks in Texas than Arizona, I would doubt that US would stay in Tempe IF there is a merger with AA. Oh, God.....
46 LAXdude1023 : She wont. Of course we dont know 100% that that HQ will be in Texas, but every credible source I have talked to or read from states that it will. Not
47 PHXA340 : Because its free entertainment !!
48 zippyjet : You can fudge/forge anything and that include his heinass's financial reports. I trust the past administration as much as if I would with Monopoly mo
49 ContnlEliteCMH : Dear Madame Gasbag: Perhaps you are not aware of recent happenings at AMR, but they have used a section of law approved by the august body to which yo
50 PHXA340 : Personal opinion aside about Jan Brewer , of course she will say something. US employs 1,000s of employees in Tempe and Phx. I agree with you 100% th
51 Post contains images yeelep : Nah, Renton, WA. where Boeing Commercial Airplanes is headquartered. Didn't they start a little airline that eventually became UAL?
52 LAXdude1023 : Thats why she is in a tough spot. The Arizona politicians have to walk the fine line of appearing to care about US and not pushing them to Texas. Aga
53 Post contains images zippyjet : I love it! They (GOP) have to stir the kettle they call black. Remeber we are dealing with Texas.
54 YYZAMS : lol YEEHAAWWW! Let's rustle up some longhorns and 6 shooters to stave off any of those unTexans from taking over our business! Big talkers from Texas
55 LAXdude1023 : Glad to see the stereotypes are alive and well.
56 Post contains images PHX787 : She will be wise to keep the two separated, or risk getting branded as someone who promotes job loss... (personally, I do like Jan lets just hope she
57 Cargolex : I was thinking the very same thing. ...and that if you advocate for the "invisible hand of the market" you really shouldn't whine when it does things
58 Post contains images catiii : Ah, a black helicopter conspiracy theorist. Never mind then. Well they are one of the largest creditors, are they not?
59 einsteinboricua : I can just see them hiring Chris Crocker to do a "Leave AA Alone" video, complete with politicians also with eyeliner crying in the background.
60 AirframeAS : That was at BFI, not RNT.
61 YYZAMS : That would be too funny!
62 joeman : Absolutely, just look at the fallout from the industry consolidation thus far which has left many markets either over-inflated for their size or the
63 yeelep : Corporate was across the street from BFI, Boeing Commercial Airplanes (BCA) is headquartered in Renton at the Longacres site.
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