santos From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 711 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5941 times:
easyJet has today announced that it will begin operating a year-round service to Tel Aviv from Manchester from the 1st November.
Twice-Weekly service, i haven't checked the schedule yet.
I guess this will compete with the Jet2 service. http://corporate.easyjet.com/media/l.../news-year-2012/17-04-2012-en.aspx
gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5741 times:
I think easyJet know this route is a money maker, especially how Jet2 have no issues filling a 757 on this route.
The route is currently not on sale with easyJet, but Jet2 are demanding over £220 each way for a seat, if you was to travel in November.
It seems easyJet are hell bent on going directly head to head with Jet2 as Monday's and Thursday's are the days they operate the route too... Would be nice if easyJet could compliment the Jet2 service and fly on alternative days, to give passengers more choice.
easyJet seem to be doing very well with Tel Aviv, as this winter easyJet will be increasing frequencies from 7 to 10 times a week from Luton too. These have been in the booking system for some time. Out of Luton easyJet also competes with EL-AL which flies six times a week with a mix of 738, 752, 763 and 777.
Dublinspotter From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 118 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5538 times:
Hi!
This is great news for MAN and TLV, as it states from the U2 website fares starting at £82.99 I think that is a very good price compared to £220 from LS. I would definitely pick U2 on this one, what aircraft are they intending to fly on the route?
david_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7168 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5456 times:
Quoting Dublinspotter (Reply 3): as it states from the U2 website fares starting at £82.99 I think that is a very good price compared to £220 from LS
Don't forgert that LS have been flying the route for a long time consequetly the travelling public would have had to book early to secure seats therefore increasing the base fare come November. It's alway the same when a new route starts. If anything, I would say to look at the fares in February/March and then compare.
Quoting Dublinspotter (Reply 3): would definitely pick U2 on this one, what aircraft are they intending to fly on the route?
gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5418 times:
Quoting Dublinspotter (Reply 3): This is great news for MAN and TLV, as it states from the U2 website fares starting at £82.99 I think that is a very good price compared to £220 from LS. I would definitely pick U2 on this one, what aircraft are they intending to fly on the route?
I would be about 99% sure, these will be operated by A320's which are used almost exclusively on the longer distant routes.
Just be warned, the lead in fares easyJet regularly quote, are usually very limited and have to book ASAP to get these fares.
I would imagine the fares will be similar to the LTN-TLV route, or atleast act as a good guide. The £220 fares I quoted each way with Jet2 were flying in November, the flights with easyJet from LTN are around £90-£120 each way, there is one rogue fare of £168 showing.
GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2714 times:
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 5): I would be about 99% sure, these will be operated by A320's which are used almost exclusively on the longer distant routes.
It's more like the longer distance routes are operated almost exclusively by A320's rather than the A320's are used almost exclusively on the longer distance routes. The 320 does in fact make it right across the network on a regular basis these days. You're right though, the TLV will certainly be 320.
LXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2399 times:
I guess the MAN-TLV route will push the duty time for the crews to the lmit and should there be delays at turnaround the return flight needs to be delayed / cancelled?
rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2037 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
Quoting LXA340 (Reply 8):
I guess the MAN-TLV route will push the duty time for the crews to the lmit and should there be delays at turnaround the return flight needs to be delayed / cancelled?
Why they have been operating Manchester - Sharm el-Sheikh for several years now without duty problems . Tel Aviv blocks will be no problem.
Quoting mainMAN (Reply 6): What is it about Mondays and Thursdays on MAN - TLV? (Apart from the obvious VFR long weekend trips?) LY operated for years on days 1 and 4.
Thursday is because few Israeli and orthodox will travel on Friday and early Saturday.(Sabbath)
Monday provides a useful compromise of working week start days .
Effectively the working week in the Middle East INCLUDING Israel is Sunday to Thursday and rather than the Christian Monday- Friday shifting peak travel days accordingly
gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2257 times:
Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 7): It's more like the longer distance routes are operated almost exclusively by A320's rather than the A320's are used almost exclusively on the longer distance routes. The 320 does in fact make it right across the network on a regular basis these days
Yes thats very true...
The A320's at LTN operate to TLV, SSH and PFO on late morning/early afternoon departures and will usually operate an early morning sector to within about 1.5hrs flight time of its base.
GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2225 times:
Quoting LXA340 (Reply 8): I guess the MAN-TLV route will push the duty time for the crews to the lmit and should there be delays at turnaround the return flight needs to be delayed / cancelled?
SSH operates very well and is slightly longer block time than TLV. EZY, unlike alot of airlines, have a few options when it comes to contingency. Any problems on the SSH for example tends to lead to a pitt stop in MXP where a crew is picked up and the MAN crew either pax back or nightstop in Milan. Not many carriers have the luxury of having crew, and indeed aircraft, based all over Europe.
Once had a crew member offloaded in ATH due to illness and with a full pax load we would have had to have offloaded some pax. Instead a crew member was on airport standby, again in MXP, positioned on the scheduled service to ATH and operated to MAN which was only 75 minutes late.
I can moan alot about Easyjet but those guys in op's do wonders some days lol.
mainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2065 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1916 times:
Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 11): I can moan alot about Easyjet but those guys in op's do wonders some days lol.
I don't think I've ever heard you moan about Easyjet once!
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 9): Thursday is because few Israeli and orthodox will travel on Friday and early Saturday.(Sabbath)
Monday provides a useful compromise of working week start days .
Effectively the working week in the Middle East INCLUDING Israel is Sunday to Thursday and rather than the Christian Monday- Friday shifting peak travel days accordingly
Granted, but my point was simply that from MAN it's always been Mon and Thu on a variety of carriers, yet from BSL for example, it's also Wed and Sun! Easyjet may well have looked at different days, with the exception of Fri and Sat, but evidently it's worth their while going after LS's market share. I hope both survive each other's competition.
GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 1699 times:
Quoting mainMAN (Reply 13): I don't think I've ever heard you moan about Easyjet once!
lol, maybe not on here as I do tend to generally believe in the product. Internally I can rip them to bits over certain things that frustrate me.... it can be infuriating at times. But then again, that is same for many people in their daily working lives.
GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
Quoting mainMAN (Reply 13): Granted, but my point was simply that from MAN it's always been Mon and Thu on a variety of carriers, yet from BSL for example, it's also Wed and Sun! Easyjet may well have looked at different days, with the exception of Fri and Sat, but evidently it's worth their while going after LS's market share. I hope both survive each other's competition.
Easyjet will go for the days where it feels it can make more money. They aren't into making sure MAN has a nice even service to TLV. Whilst i see where you're coming from, that kind of statement is from the same stable as the one that says that EZY (and other LCC's) shouldn't operate on major city pairs already operated by legacy but instead focus on secondary cities to fill in the blanks in an airports network.
mainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2065 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1440 times:
Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 15): Easyjet will go for the days where it feels it can make more money.
Very true.
Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 15): They aren't into making sure MAN has a nice even service to TLV. Whilst i see where you're coming from, that kind of statement is from the same stable as the one that says that EZY (and other LCC's) shouldn't operate on major city pairs already operated by legacy but instead focus on secondary cities to fill in the blanks in an airports network.
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