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Another DL DC-9-50 Question  
User currently onlinebigbird From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 302 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4739 times:
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Has DL stopped withdrawing DC-9 s for the time being? I have not seen any updates recently. The last I saw were the airplanes wfu in Jan. Originally They were supposed to be gone by Dec. 2012 but I think they have been extended into 2013. Is this true? The last number in service that I know of was 22 frames.


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User currently offlineC767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 953 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4654 times:

Another one was retired on Friday: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...1/history/20120420/1200Z/KATL/KMZJ

20 are still in service. I do believe the timeline is into 2013. One thing that seems to be a sure thing is that there is no set retirement date for them.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4648 times:

The above DC95 was N677MC

[Edited 2012-04-21 14:33:19]


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User currently offlinedtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1223 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

17 DC-9-50's will continue on until at least mid-2013

User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2553 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4421 times:

I don't feel like shifting through the 200+ posts that are in the other thread, but is there actually any truth to that rumor of DL taking on FL's 717s? It'd be great to have them continue the T-tail tradition at DL once the DC-9s are finally gone.


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User currently offlinedtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1223 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 4):
truth to that rumor of DL taking on FL's 717s?

A lot of truth. Negotiations continue to take all of Airtran's 717's. Decision before the end of the second quartar

[Edited 2012-04-21 16:45:36]

[Edited 2012-04-21 16:46:03]

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7681 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

N401EA visited ROC last week on a sub to ATL . Too bad the weather sucked.


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User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16524 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4181 times:

According to ATDB.org, 19 are in service.


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User currently offlinebogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Does the US have any law regarding the age of commercial aircraft? It seems flying DC-9 for a country like the US seems quite akward in my opinion. I know maintenance plays a huge role, but still for a company like DL seems odd for such old planes. Well I hope to fly one before they are finally gone.

User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2199 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 4):
It'd be great to have them continue the T-tail tradition at DL once the DC-9s are finally gone.

Don't you think the MD-88s and MD-90s will continue the "T-tail tradition" for years to come?


User currently onlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 8122 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Quoting bogota (Reply 8):
Does the US have any law regarding the age of commercial aircraft? It seems flying DC-9 for a country like the US seems quite akward in my opinion. I know maintenance plays a huge role, but still for a company like DL seems odd for such old planes. Well I hope to fly one before they are finally gone.

There is no law (and no reason for such) dictating the age of an aircraft. The current DC-9-50s are about 30-35 years old. Some of the DC-9-30s that were retired in 2010 were approaching 42-43 years in service. Aircraft with proper maintenance and overall is more important than age. A well maintained 35 year old DC-9 is much better than a poorly maintained 5 year old 737-800.

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 9):
Don't you think the MD-88s and MD-90s will continue the "T-tail tradition" for years to come?

The majority of the MD-88 fleet will be in service for another 6-7+ years. The MD-90s will be in service well into the next decade.


User currently onlinebigbird From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3842 times:
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N401EA is the oldest in the fleet.


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User currently offlinebogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 10):
There is no law (and no reason for such) dictating the age of an aircraft. The current DC-9-50s are about 30-35 years old. Some of the DC-9-30s that were retired in 2010 were approaching 42-43 years in service. Aircraft with proper maintenance and overall is more important than age. A well maintained 35 year old DC-9 is much better than a poorly maintained 5 year old 737-800.

As I said before I understand that good maintenance is a big part of it. Yet it still seems odd to see such old planes in and airline such as DL. Anyhow good to see those old planes still flying around.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 24489 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

Quoting bogota (Reply 12):
Yet it still seems odd to see such old planes in and airline such as DL.

Why? As recently as a 3 or 4 years ago, airlines like LA (and DL, for that matter) were flying similarly-aged 732s around (and some of the ex-LA 732s remain in service).



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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 10881 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

Quoting bogota (Reply 8):

The DC-9 is a tank. Fuel burn is bad but still a paid off very, very high cycle limit tank.



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2637 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3425 times:

Quoting bigbird (Reply 11):
N401EA is the oldest in the fleet.

I have that one as second oldest. N675MC is a hair older.


User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 2029 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3392 times:
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Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 14):
The DC-9 is a tank. Fuel burn is bad but still a paid off very, very high cycle limit tank.

   Exactly how I described the -50 to someone else the other day. IMHO pretty much same with Boeing too. Recall all my friends who flew the 727 and said the same, then many switched to the 757. Rocket comes up a lot with the 752. A lot of those DC-9-30's could still fly with $40 oil.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 15):
I have that one as second oldest. N675MC is a hair older.

True.

N675MC - first flight Jun 5, 1975 - delivered Austrian Airlines Aug 25, 1975

N401EA - first flight Aug 1, 1975 - delivered Allegheny Airlines Oct 10, 1975



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7681 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 17):
N401EA - first flight Aug 1, 1975 - delivered Allegheny Airlines Oct 10, 1975

I figured it was delivered to Eastern . I just hope DL subs one on here when the weather cooperates.



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User currently onlinebigbird From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2846 times:
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It was sold to EA later in life.


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User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1657 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

Quoting United_fan (Reply 18):
I figured it was delivered to Eastern . I just hope DL subs one on here when the weather cooperates.

AL received -50s then traded them to EA for -30s and cash.


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