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LH 7478i Delivery Postponed.  
User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Posted (1 year 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 58610 times:
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From kpae.blogspot.com

"The delivery ceremony for Lufthansa 747-8i D-ABYA, scheduled for April 23, has been canceled until further notice. "

Anyone with more details?

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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29671 posts, RR: 84
Reply 1, posted (1 year 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 58427 times:
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This thread - LH In More Trouble (by LH506 Apr 21 2012 in Civil Aviation) - notes that LH is encountering business difficulties and will be ending some routes and not adding new planes until 2014.

That being said, it's a bit late in the game to decide they can't afford (figuratively) them.


User currently offlineodwyerpw From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 787 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 57519 times:
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Man 747-8 and its delivery ceremonies....just cant catch a break..


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User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8488 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (1 year 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 57425 times:
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Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
This thread - LH In More Trouble (by LH506 Apr 21 2012 in Civil Aviation) - notes that LH is encountering business difficulties and will be ending some routes and not adding new planes until 2014.

It doesn't say that they won't add new planes until 2014, it says they won't grow their fleet until then. That doesn't seem to preclude taking delivery of aircraft to replace those being retired.



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User currently offlinedynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 851 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 57183 times:

Quoting clickhappy (Thread starter):
Anyone with more details?

The actual delivery, and not just the ceremony, was also due for the 23rd. Maybe it wasn't quite going to be ready.


User currently offlineflyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 57154 times:

There must be an explanation to this. Maybe it is just postponed till LH management decide on what exactly they are going to do.
The worst case scenario... LH might want to park them for a while till they can replace the older aircraft instead of adding capacity? How many of the LH 748is are already built?

Surely if LH wanted to defer deliveries they would have communicated to the manufacturer already.


User currently offlineAngMoh From Singapore, joined Nov 2011, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 56918 times:

Quoting flyhigh@tom (Reply 5):
There must be an explanation to this. Maybe it is just postponed till LH management decide on what exactly they are going to do.

Impossible. You can not just cancel/postpone a delivery of a $300M plane 2 days before it is supposed to happen because you changed your mind or you might change long term plans. Simple things like contracts make that impossible.

There is probably some haggling at the background over paperwork or non-conforming items on a delivery check list. Actually there was a hint this could happen because no major ceremony which you was expect for the first 747-8i was ever scheduled.


User currently offlinePM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6840 posts, RR: 64
Reply 7, posted (1 year 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 56848 times:

I don't follow the 748 programme terribly closely but wasn't there a technical issue that Lufthansa wasn't happy with? Something to do with the vertical stabiliser?

If so, that's most likely why the delivery has been postponed.

LH isn't going to decide they can't afford the plane and/or don't want with less than a week to go.   


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8895 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (1 year 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 55505 times:
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I don't have any information about postponed delivery. I only know that LH pilots are in Seattle right now and prepared the delivery. Maybe some issues on the last testflights. Maybe the trouble with the tail tank.

My manuals all get a serious update in the next couple of days because of the 748i.

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User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8638 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (1 year 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 55167 times:

Quoting AngMoh (Reply 6):
You can not just cancel/postpone a delivery of a $300M plane 2 days before it is supposed to happen because you changed your mind or you might change long term plans. Simple things like contracts make that impossible.

Cargolux did similar with their 747-8Fs Cargolux To Not Take Delivery Of 747-8F On Monday (by QANTAS747-438 Sep 16 2011 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 55023 times:

I always had a sneaking suspicion that they were intended for LHR post BD and its slots.


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User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8488 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (1 year 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 54675 times:
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Quoting mikey72 (Reply 10):
I always had a sneaking suspicion that they were intended for LHR post BD and its slots.

Glad to see that you still have your sense of humour my friend.



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User currently offlineAngMoh From Singapore, joined Nov 2011, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 54466 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 9):
Cargolux did similar with their 747-8Fs Cargolux To Not Take Delivery Of 747-8F On Monday (by QANTAS747-438 Sep 16 2011 in Civil Aviation)

That was also a clause in the contract not being met. The only minor point was the Cargolux accepted the deviation but their new investor Al Baker did not. If all points in the contract had been met, Cargolux would have taken delivery on the scheduled date regardless of Al Baker. Same for LH.


User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 54018 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 11):
Glad to see that you still have your sense of humour my friend.


What ? LOL

No scheme regarding some way for an envious rival to shoe horn BA out of LHR would surprise 'me' !

It is a 'constant' in the airline industry.



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User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 52080 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 11):
Glad to see that you still have your sense of humour my friend.

I don't think it is so far fetched to assume that LH were planning to beef up BD at LHR under the BD banner with a fleet of 748's.



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User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8488 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 51922 times:
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Quoting mikey72 (Reply 14):
I don't think it is so far fetched to assume that LH were planning to beef up BD at LHR under the BD banner with a fleet of 748's.

OK, I'll take the bait. What routes do you think they could've ( not 'could of'   ) used them on out of LHR?



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12060 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 51868 times:

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 14):
I don't think it is so far fetched to assume that LH were planning to beef up BD at LHR under the BD banner with a fleet of 748's.

But the airplane is already painted in LH livery. Maybe LH could transfer some other types to BD?


User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 51768 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
OK, I'll take the bait. What routes do you think they could've ( not 'could of' ) used them on out of LHR?

Andrew I'm just saying that when the order was placed the landscape lay a little differently. Remember that unlike VS they would have had the full force of the Star Alliance behind them supplying feed etc

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 16):
But the airplane is already painted in LH livery. Maybe LH could transfer some other types to BD?

Well it's a bit late now and anyway it wouldn't work now....the economic crisis etc

[Edited 2012-04-22 02:57:03]

[Edited 2012-04-22 02:57:23]

[Edited 2012-04-22 02:57:46]


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User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 51658 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 15):

Actually I could just be talking rubbish...I havn't really thought it through but I would not have been surprised.



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 51662 times:

Think quite a few here mixes up the words postponed/delayed and cancelled........

User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7026 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 51289 times:

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 14):
LHR under the BD banner with a fleet of 748's.

You mean like these:

http://file1.npage.de/002168/32/bilder/file0010.jpg

But on the other hand maybe these planes will go to Swiss instead  WinkSwiss To Replace A340 With Larger Jet (by columba Apr 19 2012 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2012-04-22 03:19:45]

[Edited 2012-04-22 03:22:16]


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User currently offlineflyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 51226 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 8):
I don't have any information about postponed delivery. I only know that LH pilots are in Seattle right now and prepared the delivery. Maybe some issues on the last testflights. Maybe the trouble with the tail tank.

This could be a plausible explanation. If anything some last minute technical glitch can always postpone the delivery of any new airframe. Only hitch ....this being the first frame of its kind has a a lot of publicity attached to it.

However..waiting for an official explanation from LH or Boeing ..till then we all can all speculate and let our imaginations run wild   


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 12 months 2 hours ago) and read 50717 times:

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 18):

Actually I could just be talking rubbish..



No kidding. Not everything in the world is a conspiracy against BA.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29671 posts, RR: 84
Reply 23, posted (1 year 12 months 2 hours ago) and read 50432 times:
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Quoting PM (Reply 7):
I don't follow the 748 programme terribly closely but wasn't there a technical issue that Lufthansa wasn't happy with? Something to do with the vertical stabiliser?
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 8):
Maybe the trouble with the tail tank.

All public communication from LH management and PR has been that even overweight and with the non-PIP'd engines, the 747-8 meets all contractual guarantees and that they looked forward to delivery They also noted that the tail tank issue was a non-issue for them as none of the first round of destinations required the tank.

Does anybody know when the C1 flight was?


User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2026 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 49794 times:

I would think that the aircraft failed at the acceptance test. The inspectors of LH are famous for their findings of faults on new aircraft.

Report about the acceptance of a 747-400. (Sorry only in German)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCGe-y3TOIs

[Edited 2012-04-22 04:28:32]


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25 par13del : Guess Boing should have scheduled their test flight for a couple weeks before delivery to allow LH inspectors time to review the data so that they di
26 Post contains links dynamicsguy : April 13, with another customer flight the following day: BOE022 on Flightaware
27 Post contains links 747classic : The first to be delivered Lufthansa 747-8 intercontinental - RC022/D-ABYA - made it's first customer (C1) test flight at Friday the 13th ............
28 dynamicsguy : You clearly have no idea what was scheduled and carried out before the scheduling of this delivery.
29 mikey72 : Who said anything about conspiring ? Just business. If I acquired an airline with 10% of slots at an airport like Heathrow I'd consider my options as
30 babybus : Couldn't they just take delivery of the plane just for show then roll it into the hanger till the problems are sorted out? This doesn't look good for
31 kanban : A major problem when installing too soon.. could be the cause however shouldn't the 2nd a/ps interiors be available?
32 Post contains images Stitch : That sounds reasonable. Perhaps the installation of the new interior is taking longer than planned. I am guessing this is the custom First Class cabi
33 zeke : I had not heard that, and did a google without being able to find those comments.
34 Post contains links PlaneInsomniac : What I find interesting about the Spiegel article is the exact wording: http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/0,1518,828858,00.html Several tim
35 Post contains images wilco737 : Well, 2 744's have left the fleet already, #3 to follow within the next 3 weeks. So if we get 3 more 748i's in 2012, then the fleet number would be t
36 B747forever : Which bird is the next to leave?
37 Post contains images wilco737 : D-ABVA, D-ABVB are gone and D-ABTA is next. And we are all looking forward to D-ABYA to finally arrive in FRA and start her duty... wilco737
38 B747forever : She will be close to 23 years when leaving! I guess that D-ABTB is next in line after -TA.
39 mikey72 : As much as I admire everything about the 748i i'm just not sure of the wisdom in replacing a 744 with one. Not for big legacy carriers anyway with th
40 FlyingCello : Not so sure about that...looking at OEWs of ~220t v 277t? That's a lot of extra airplane to haul around if you don't have the people to fill it...and
41 Post contains images Devilfish : PR is taking delivery of a 748i??? I knew Boeing's executives were up to something when they visited SMC's headquarters.
42 Post contains images kiffy : Do you guys just think this might just be due to weather?
43 KC135TopBoom : Does any one have any solid info? Is the B-747-830 delivery officially cancelled, or not? It is beginning to sound more like a rumor than a confirmed
44 SEA : It's sunny and 70˚ here right now... supposed to be partly cloudy and 75˚ tomorrow. So, no.
45 Post contains images lightsaber : No one would believe the press photos were taken in Seattle. They're obviously waiting for a typical Seattle day. Lightsaber
46 Cargolex : For once, the weather's nice. For the first 747-8i delivery ceremony (not Cargolux) it was definitely anything but). Here's a question I have, and yo
47 WestWing : It's odd that both Boeing and Lufthansa never made any formal announcement about a delivery date. FlightGlobal were suggesting Monday or Tuesday might
48 Cargolex : Forgive me, I meant to say 748F ceremony above. The weather was definitely not cooperative that day.[Edited 2012-04-22 20:19:05]
49 Post contains images wilco737 : It is LH490/ 491 But the 340 is used every once in a while. The crew is in Seattle already a little longer, I think a total of almost 14 days to do a
50 Burkhard : Gatwick, Luton, Stansted and maybe even LCY to help ahainst the eternal congestion of all the London highways. The day you take delivery is the day y
51 N14AZ : On aero.de someone stated that the first B 748i will arrive in FRA on April 26th.
52 Burkhard : I hope that is true, three days more to fix something minor is nothing unusual. If you want to make a huge PR event, you have to schedule to be ready
53 warpspeed : Matt Cawby is reporting on Twitter (Paine Airport) that technicians are working on Lufthansa 747-8i D-ABYA on the flightline today. Strange to say thi
54 Post contains images PHXA340 : Thanks ... please no more A380 vs 747-8i discussions ! Apparent rumor is that small things are being worked on but there are a lot of small things to
55 ikramerica : See, what happened is, the weather in Seattle was so nice, and so unexpected, that the delivery crew doesn't want to leave. So they colluded with Boe
56 Burkhard : Also too rainy here for a welcome, end of the week summer weather is expected....
57 N14AZ : That mysterious source on aero.de is now saying April 28th, saturday.
58 Post contains links 747classic : Both flight line photos of D-ABYA, with all the main cabin doors open (except the over-wing and upper deck escape doors) plus a lot of stairs (7 can
59 RubberJungle : I've just heard from someone fairly close to the programme that the 747-8 delivery isn't happening before 1 May, at least.
60 Post contains links petera380 : There is a YouTube video (in German only) showing the acceptance and handover of a B744. The Lufthansa inspectors are so strict that it's no wonder th
61 holzmann : @petra380: I watched the entire video last night. I love it. And I love Germans. I cannot believe that Boeing would be unprepared for such treatment i
62 wingman : Well, it's probably been at least two decades since LH has been in Seattle for new delivery inspections. Guess Boeing forgot what to expect!
63 Viscount724 : Just over one decade. LH's last Boeing aircraft (their last 744) was delivered March 15, 2002.
64 5MillionMiler : I agree that if the LH inspectors in fact did not like what they see, then make the manufacturer fix it. Better to have the builder focused on fixing
65 Post contains images wilco737 : New delivery date is set to May 1st, arrival in FRA on 2nd. wilco737
66 Burkhard : Can you keep us updated when it is expected, so that we can keep our eyes open and train ourself to spot it?
67 Post contains images warden145 : Yay!!! Let's hope that this date sticks...I'm hoping that LH eventually sends her to SFO in the winter
68 Post contains images wilco737 : Don't have a time yet. First destination is IAD, then 2 others (not announced yet) and #4 and #5 will be ORD and LAX. wilco737
69 Post contains images warden145 : I had actually caught that I meant in a few years as more of them come online...although I'm sure I'll be able to see one from LAX
70 Post contains images Nimish : Interesting - so there's hope yet for a India destination this year !
71 Post contains images wilco737 : Hope is a good thing, so you never know. It is not official, so i cannot say anything again, sorry. wilco737
72 lightsaber : I'm happy to hear the delay is 'bracketed.' IMHO, LH's seating count is to fit within the Germany/India bilateral. The 748i would grant LH the lowest
73 Post contains links pygmalion : Actually the delivery was today with a delivery ceremony May 1st in Everett and another in Frankfurt on May 2nd. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php
74 ikramerica : Seems as if Boeing negotiated w LH to deliver and then finish fixing the damaged interior fittings. May have been a contractual reason LH couldn't rej
75 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Wishing the the first 747-8 Intercontinental a happy delivery party and flight to Frankfurt. After the Lufthansa/Singapore A380s and ANA 787 Dreamlin
76 Post contains images Stitch : Well replacing some dented cabinets is something that can easily done compared to removing a few tons of extra weight or addressing an SFC shortfall.
77 Post contains links Ronaldo747 : LH just took delivery of D-ABYA http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...CFGFG%7Ctwitterfeed%7CFlightglobal
78 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Article quote: The airframer in February delivered the first 747-8I to an unnamed VIP customer. Any idea who this unnamed VIP customer is? Congratulat
79 petera380 : It was Qatar Amiri Flight as A7-HHE
80 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Thank you. The Qatar Royals own heaps of high-end property down here. I'll have to find out from the airport if they plan to bring their brand new 74
81 USAF336TFS : Wilco, Has the name of Yankee Alpha been released yet or will we see that painted on her when she leaves for FRA?
82 SSTeve : I tend to think they also wanted to reschedule the full delivery festivities. LH probably agreed to take delivery today contingent on the repairs, an
83 ER757 : Probably too late to change the thread title but glad the delivery isn't postponed indefinitely as originally noted
84 Roseflyer : Actually LH can't do that. They can't agree to take deliveyr and then have contingent repairs. Once the airplane receives its operation certificate (
85 Post contains links quiet1 : Headline: "Boeing Delivers First 747-8, To Lufthansa," dated April 25, 2012 ??? http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1335386601.html
86 lightsaber : Interesting. So not as delayed as feared. I could see two days to fix 'found faults.' Ok. That ends this thread for me. Lightsaber
87 Post contains images zkojq : Does anyone know if Lufthansa plans to skip the registration D-ABYB? D-ABYB was the registration of the Lufthansa 747-100 that crashed near Nairobi. T
88 aeroblogger : Yes, tail number ABYB is retired. D-ABYC, YD, YF will be delivered by September. YE will come later.
89 starrion : so they delivered the first airline 748i and two 787's? Good day for Boeing
90 Post contains links 747classic : Even better : Also the second 747-8I/BBJ for Qatar Amiri Flight was delivered at April 25, see ; http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....47-8kb-bbj-qa
91 Post contains images frigatebird : From the 747-8 flight & delivery thread: So, can we see LH's second 748i being delivered soon as well? Glad the first one has been delivered now a
92 Post contains links Burkhard : Just read on http://www.aero.de/news-14930/Boeing...rcontinental-an-Lufthansa-aus.html that LH accepted the aircraft now, transfer flight May 1st.
93 r2rho : Yes, and funnily, in a way this was already the 1st "net" 748 that has been delivered to LH - LH Technik in HAM to be exact - to be outfitted with VI
94 Burkhard : Which is the reason why LH can introduce any type that fits its needs even at small numbers.
95 747classic : AFAIK that's not entirely correct. The first delivered 747-8I/BBJ (L/N 1439/A7-HHE) is still located at Wichita, Kansas for Aeroloft installation at
96 Post contains images JOYA380B747 : I still doubt DEL will be on the list of destinations by 748 this year. That said however, lightsaber, you are correct, LH's 748 fits within the bila
97 Post contains images wilco737 : Airplane is accepted by Lufthansa. Only minor paperwork has to be finished. It will leave Seattle on May 1st to Canada and then on to FRA where it wil
98 Post contains images USAF336TFS : So I guess some of the Technik people are in Seattle to paint the name on May 1.
99 Post contains images aloges : That coincides beautifully with LH Cargo's ""Create your Experience" tour of FRA which they organised via Facebook... as if I needed another reason t
100 United787 : Even better...2 787s were delivered to JAL also!
101 Post contains images Devilfish : I feel sorry for these Emirs, Sultans and Kings. Their 748Is aren't even completed yet and now they must agonize anew over whether they should replac
102 petera380 : Another two or just JA822J and JA825J that were delivered March 25th, 2012?
103 Post contains images pnwtraveler : Stopping in YYZ by any chance? Wishful thinking .
104 Post contains links KC135TopBoom : Boeing delivered two B-787-8s to JL on March 25, 2012 and one B-787-8 to NH on March 29, 2012. http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...ageid=m25062&am
105 dennys : Quoting petera380 (Reply 79): It was Qatar Amiri Flight as A7-HHE Thank you. The Qatar Royals own heaps of high-end property down here. I'll have to
106 Newark727 : Why the stop in Canada? (Apologies if this is a stupid question.)
107 Post contains images KELPkid : Just a guess, but maybe a combo of PR/Gate compatibility/airfield compatibility testing? The dumbest question is the one not asked
108 DocLightning : Slightly off-topic, but Wilco, I know LH names their aircraft mainly after German locations, although I know there are a few exceptions. Do you know
109 Post contains images nra-3b : This was two additional 787-8 that were taken yesterday, Apr 25, by JAL. They were both flown out today , JA826J and JA827J. So JAL now has 4 787 in
110 blrsea : As these new 748s come online, will LH first retire the older 747s which weren't among the 9-10 refurbished last year? How long does it plan to keep t
111 Newark727 : I believe they've already started getting rid of a handful of the really old frames. Someone may correct me on this but I think D-ABVA and D-ABVB hav
112 aloges : They have left the fleet and are to be scrapped. I don't know whether or not this has already happened.
113 Post contains images wilco737 : Could be. I don't know where, sorry. I guess some tax or costums stuff. But what exactly, no clue. Well, with the 380 they discontinued that traditio
114 Burkhard : No. No Sheik will downgrade from a two floor quad to a one floor twin. As a second toy for small weekend trips with reduced harem maybe. As unlikely
115 Post contains images wilco737 : And you can win tickets for the 'roll- in party' on May 2nd. https://www.facebook.com/lufthansa?sk=app_157861120895401&app_data=lang:de wilco737
116 NorthstarBoy : Now that LH is taking delivery of the 748, any idea when seat maps will be up on the web? With LH being pretty predictable, I can probably guess that
117 Post contains images wilco737 : The seatmap is not out yet, but if you search for the first route, you can see 74H instead of 744 as airplane type wilco737
118 Post contains links aeroblogger : http://presse.lufthansa.com/en/news-...ve/2012/april/27/article/2138.html Lufthansa announces BLR and DEL as destinations.
119 Post contains images wilco737 : So we have a total of 5 destinations now: IAD, BLR, DEL, LAX and ORD. Sounds like a nice network for the new 748i. But sad part is: flights in DEL an
120 B747forever : When will we see it at LAX?
121 Post contains images wilco737 : Not decided yet. We need to get all 5 frames before this all can be flown. So a little patience is needed wilco737
122 B747forever : Sorry if you already mentioned it, but when will they get them? It has been a long wait!
123 Post contains images wilco737 : First arrives next week, the next in June and then August/ September/ October as it looks like. The longer the better wilco737
124 Post contains images B747forever : Thanks. LAX should be online by OCT. Yeah, sure
125 USAF336TFS : I'm hoping that JFK will be a destination for the 748. Wilco??? Whatcha think?
126 Post contains images wilco737 : Not in 2012 as it looks like. The 5 destinations are announced for 2012 and more are not possible with 5 aircraft. maybe in 2013, but I doubt it as t
127 Post contains images BLRAviation : Yeah, tell us Bangalore spotters about it. Anyone feeling generous to sponsor a trip to Frankfurt for me?
128 USAF336TFS : Maybe as a replacement for one of the 744s?
129 B747forever : Hey, Phil, will there be any domestic flights on the 748i before it starts flying to IAD?
130 Post contains images wilco737 : It is possible, but from what I've been told, chances are low. One daily flight will be 380 and the other 744. wilco737
131 Post contains links and images wilco737 : The flight to IAD is now bookable on www.lufthansa.com First flight on June 1st! Happy flying wilco737
132 dennys : First Commercial Flight to be opetated by 74H - means 747-8i !!! FRI 01JUN12 FRANKFURT-WASHINGTON 01/0001 01/2359 G*LH 01 FRA IAD 0950 1245 LH 416 F1
133 tailfin : 8F 92C 258Y D-ABYA is currently planned to make a quick stop at YVR tomorrow Saturday 1100-1230LT. Only provisionally. I don't know if YVR airport can
134 Post contains images wilco737 : Yes, the 8th letter in the alphabet is H, hence 748 ==> 74H And not to forget the new LH business class. wilco737
135 holzmann : Nice. I just checked the dates I will be flying IAD-FRA-IAD this summer and the aircraft is listed as 74H!
136 lh526 : My sources give 0930 local as ETA in FRA, Flight# is LH748[Edited 2012-04-27 05:06:03]
137 Post contains images maxfly : my seat count (on KVS) is 8F/86C/262Y for a total of 356 seats (32 Biz in the upper- and 54 on the main deck)... unless I've lost count of course...
138 lh526 : Various LH systems show it as F8C92M258.[Edited 2012-04-27 06:24:59]
139 Post contains images wilco737 : That's what I have as well. Don't know if there will be different configurations in the future. wilco737
140 Stitch : So a smaller F and Y cabin than the 747-400, but a larger C. The end result meaning almost the same capacity.
141 airbazar : Wow, that is one premium heavy configuration and a very smart idea to configure the 748i with essentially the same number of premium seats as the A38
142 Post contains links JOYA380B747 : Here you go, the #2 and #3 destinations that LH has planned so far in this recent development, DEL and BLR. Lufthansa upgrades Delhi and Bangalore se
143 bikerthai : Ha! Flew SEA to BLR twice, one with LH and once with BA. I preferred the BA horizontal flat seat. But now, I may just go LH the next time I go to BLR
144 Darksnowynight : Ehhhh, sort of. LHT is still a separate company from LH (even if the same family) and must bid on mx contracts, even for LH, like anyone else. IIRC,
145 Roseflyer : I think you missed a row on the main deck business class.
146 B777 : On my way to get groceries, I saw it leave YVR at around 12:12pm local time.
147 Post contains images Cargolex : I can't count how many times I've seen those numbers! Spend even an hour in blazing hot sun after months of Seattle's gray clouds and your brain gets
148 B777 : Yup, noticed that when I checked Flightaware. I didn't know it was going to be at YVR today so it was a pleasant surprise to see it departing. Hopefu
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