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Any Chance Of Seeing IB,BA At CLT  
User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (2 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

If the merger goes through, any chance of seeing BA or IB flying to CLT because of the OW. Assuming US will join the OW.

If so what aircraft do you think they would operate, I could see BA with a 777, IB with a A346 or A343

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User currently offlinejetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1232 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 2743 times:

BA has flown to CLT previously with a 763, through BWI for quite some time. I would think most of the feed required into CLT is currently covered by US.


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User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 2722 times:

Quoting jetblast (Reply 1):
BA has flown to CLT previously with a 763, through BWI for quite some time. I would think most of the feed required into CLT is currently covered by US.

When US/AA merge, it may happen again. BA's first presence at CLT may have been somewhat influenced by Marshall's reign at BA as He had a Son living in CLT at the time. BA flew both the 777 and 763 to CLT.


User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1278 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

I'd think there would be zero chance of IB ever serving CLT unless there's some really big and entirely unpredictable changes.

I don't think there'd be very much CLT-Spain traffic, and it's very hard to see why IB would serve CLT on their own metal when there are much more likely places they'd want to serve. Between CLT's relative proximity to IAD, or further afield JFK and MIA via regional jet connections, and US' existing services to Europe, it's deeply, deeply unlikely.

[Edited 2012-04-23 16:17:07]

User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Quoting jetblast (Reply 1):

I know they used, I'm saying after the merger


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7808 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

IB, no.

However (assuming AA and US merge), I think we will probably see BA at CLT at some point.



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User currently offlinejetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1232 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 4):
I know they used, I'm saying after the merger

You mean the merger that hasn't been approved yet by anyone but the unions?  

Would be interesting to see although as mentioned I sincerely doubt we will see IB serving Charlotte with its own aircraft.



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User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Quoting jetblast (Reply 6):

Ik but it's fun to discuss about


User currently offlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 2297 times:

US already is doing flights between CLT-MAD, although I'm not sure if it's just seasonal or year round. Either way, I would expect US to continue operating the flights.

You would most definitely expect to see BA return to CLT, along with US continuing to fly to London. There is enough onward connections on both ends for double daily CLT-LHR. The opening of a CLT route provides many new markets for BA and OW in the South and Mid-Atlantic regions, that BA hasn't had access to since the ending of the agreement in the 90s with US.


User currently offlineRyeFly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 2196 times:

AA's RDU-LHR flight would be at risk of moving to CLT in a merger. Although it is heavly subsidized so maybe not. It could be a opportunity for BA to go to RDU if AA moves the flight to CLT, instead of having two flights a day to LHR from CLT. If AA or BA doesn't continue the RDU-LHR flight, it wouldn't surprise me to see Delta step in and strart the service.

User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3173 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 2172 times:

BA had served CLT for several years with a US/BA alliance, where BA operated the route for US. Once the partnership ended, both BA and US flew CLT-LGW..BA flying a B777 and US a A333. BA operated a 4 class B777 on this route as well. After 9/11, BA announced that the route would go to a B767 to LHR, and would have a stopover in BWI. This was the sign of the routes demise. BA axed the route in Fall 2002.

US currently has a contract with some company to fly to LGW from CLT. Some pharmaceutical company located both near CLT and LGW...something like that. I think US/AA will continue to LGW from CLT, and BA will fly to LHR.

I think most people agree that BA will fly to CLT, but with a 777 or a 763, and is there enough space for BA in CLT (assuming LH stays)?



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User currently offlineBoeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months ago) and read 2126 times:

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 10):
I think most people agree that BA will fly to CLT, but with a 777 or a 763, and is there enough space for BA in CLT (assuming LH stays)?

Yes, after CLT does the new expansion to the international pier they will be able to handle BA if they decide to come.

I believe there is a 99.9% chance that if the merger would go through; CLT would have a new international carrier namely BA. With the new AA/US going to be running short of Long-Haul Equipment BA will step in with a 763 or 772ER; considering the JV would still be in place.

Now for IB; not sure if they would ever come to CLT. Like someone said before; I'm not sure how much traffic there is between CLT-Spain. I think IB would be better of flying to South America or MIA/DFW/ORD with the equipment they would use for the flight. Plus I believe IB has much higher costs that AA/US.



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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2092 times:

Quoting Cargolex (Reply 3):
I don't think there'd be very much CLT-Spain traffic

CLT-Spain O/D? No. A combined and synergized AA/US feeding traffic through a CLT hub to Spain? That's a much better chance...


User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3173 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 11):
Yes, after CLT does the new expansion to the international pier they will be able to handle BA if they decide to come.

The new pier won't be ready until at least 2017.



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User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Quoting FLYjoe (Reply 8):

It's just seasonal form may til October. But when the merger is complete it would probably go year rond because it's OW hub


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 3020 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

If this happens, it won't be for a good few years, so the 787 might be a possibility...

User currently offlineTalaier From Spain, joined May 2008, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 11):
Now for IB; not sure if they would ever come to CLT. Like someone said before; I'm not sure how much traffic there is between CLT-Spain. I think IB would be better of flying to South America or MIA/DFW/ORD with the equipment they would use for the flight. Plus I believe IB has much higher costs that AA/US.
Quoting Cargolex (Reply 3):
I don't think there'd be very much CLT-Spain traffic, and it's very hard to see why IB would serve CLT on their own metal when there are much more likely places they'd want to serve. Between CLT's relative proximity to IAD, or further afield JFK and MIA via regional jet connections, and US' existing services to Europe, it's deeply, deeply unlikely.
Quoting FLYjoe (Reply 8):
US already is doing flights between CLT-MAD, although I'm not sure if it's just seasonal or year round. Either way, I would expect US to continue operating the flights.

US does CLT-MAD seasonally aside from PHL-MAD. I think last summer was the first one the route operated and it didn't do badly IIRC. Demand is there, since there is a lot of traffic between Spain and the US during the summer months. I personally think the route will keep operating after the merger. A daily 757 might do it during the winter months with ATI in place, and should prove a strong competitor of DL's ATL flight.


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