N400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5601 times:
Its a perfectly safe airplane. I flew two Alaska MD83s last week and am going to fly another one day after tomorrow. Perfectly safe, comfortable.... just keep your mind off of it and you'll be fine. That's what I did-- I was apprehensive (not scared, just anxious) the first time on an AS -83 after the crash, but it went just fine- I worried over nothing.
Sccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5975 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5585 times:
Your intellect should tell your emotions that Alaska Airlines has, over the years, operated one of the best and most professionally-run airlines; and that, since their tragic loss, they have become one of the most intensely-scrutinized carriers.
Further, that the MD80 series is an exceedingly fine aircraft, well-respected by pilots and reliable.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
Milemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1097 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5564 times:
Besides, the FAA ordered the inspection of the Jackscrew of all MD80/90/DC9 aircraft after that accident. You can rest assured to know that a similar incident would be extremely unlikely regardless of what airline you choose to fly an MD80 on.
Flygga From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5550 times:
Trust me, Alaska's MD80's are probably some of the safest to fly on right now. I flew them down to Zihuatenejo from SFO last month and both the flight down and back went off without any problems. Meal service sucked but that is another story. You might want to bring your own food.
B777-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5528 times:
My advice is if you're afraid to fly Alaska Airlines, then don't fly on them. Pick another airline. Call me prejudice, but I would NEVER fly an airline based out of Alaska; especially with the maintenence problems they had a few months back.
SR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5513 times:
well NikonF100 I could also say that I feel much safer on AeroMexico or Mexicana than flying on Alaska but that it would be an extremeley ignorant opinion on my part as I personally do not know about the safety practices of Alaska airlines, mind you.. I am sure that if what happened to 261 happened to a mexican airline many many people would immediatley crucify the airline. Fortunatley, large mexican airlines have excellent maintenance facilities and the national aviation board assures that all airlines comply with safety standards.
Mx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5494 times:
I wouldn't have flown on Alaskan 6 months ago, not with the FAA's discovery of problematic maintenance. You can always rest assure that where there is one lot of bad maintenance then other areas have been compromised as well.
Having said that the FAA got tough on them so I would rest assure they should be OK now. Still - it's your life you make the decision, but I don't see them dropping out of the sky like flies.
Milemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1097 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5492 times:
I agree with you, but the Mexican government has significantly less interest in public safety than the FAA. But I also have heard that their maintenance practices are far better than the rest of the world knows.
Still a lot of 707's and 721's cruising around south america. That by itself is a risk greater than anything..
Some good examples of skillful flying as well. Remember the Copa 737-300 that lost all hyraulics and successfully landed on a levy? Pretty smooth...
Johnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2652 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5479 times:
I took this RT from PVR-SFO on Alaska Airlines back in April. I must admit that I was pretty fidgety when we were passing over Southern California on the way back.
Irrational? Yes, but the feeling was there just the same. My mind tended to retrace all the gory details, wondering what was going on while we were over San Diego, Los Angeles, Ventura, etc.
You get the point, I'm sure.
But to end this on a happier note....I think you'll have to worry more about the tropical heat/humidity walking from the parked aircraft, onto the waiting bus. We didn't use a jetway when we disembarked in PVR. The weather was sweltering then as we waited in customs (essentially without a/c, as the place was so crowded, that the doors from the tarmac to customs were continually open).
Enjoy the rainy season. Hope it's greener for you than it was for us.
NikonF100 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5444 times:
I probably wouldn't be afraid to fly Mexicana, or AeroMex...They are relitivley reliable airlines, and probably pretty safe. COPA is an airline I'd like to fly sometime. Although I'm not really into flying to Panama on a 73G. Aren't their pilots trained by CO?
And 777...you need to check your facts. Alaska is based out of Seattle/Tacoma Intl airport, in SEA-TAC Washington. They started flying around Alaska as a mail carrier/food carrier for the eskimos. They moved HQ down to the lower 48 a while ago. (No date sorry)
Alaska has been on the leading edge of technological innovations. The only airline I'd fly to Juneau is Alaska. Every time I've been up there, even in the worst weather, the pilots preformed "the cut" approach with precision and skill.
While it's true they've had mx problems, so has TWA, American, UA, etc...When Alaska had the FAA on their back they did what the FAA asked, and more. A lot more!
VirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5437 times:
Alaska has been scrutinized by the FAA since they we're fined $810,000 for improperly modifing the main landing gear on a 737 and then flying it on 9,000 pax carrying flights a few years back. The crash just increased the heat on Alaska. The FAA is usually a cream puff on waivers. But this time it looks like they've been getting it together. (Hopefully they've learned their lesson.)
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30206 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5425 times:
The jackscrew problem was that hard to fix.
The problem was due to the instructions in the maintaince manual being followed by the mechanics.
Normally this wouldn't cause a problem but it apears that changes that where made in the lubrication order caused wear to occure on the part between it's last inspection where it was close but not yet past tolorances and the ultimate failure event.
But what put the plane into the water was the pilots decisions to deploy the flaps. If you have a stable aircraft and controls that have malfunctioned. Don't mess with the aircraft configuration chances are you will throw something out of balance, which is what happened to this aircraft.
The pilots decision to deploy the aircrafts flaps doomed the flight to disaster.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5400 times:
I've never had a nastygram
Apollo13 - wow your name and this topic don't really mix well do they?
My suggestion is that you treat it like any other flight, things are less likely to go wrong if you are in an aircraft that has been previously in an accident, pilots will take more care, same with the maintenance.