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Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins  
User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2603 posts, RR: 58
Posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 37921 times:
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Thomson have finally announced their new livery and cabins to be introdcued onboard the 787 at the start of 2013.

http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/exterior_00176.jpg

Not a major change to the exterior, but an improvement over the current bland livery, the interior looks good though. Although there will be a 9 abreast economy cabin, seat pitch has been confirmed as 34" so should still be a comfortable ride and the Premium Club cabin looks excellent.

http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/EC_AFT_relax-COMPRESSED.jpg

http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/PEC_AFT_full_relax.jpg

http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/EC_IFE_photo.jpg

Full details on the Live The Dreamliner website.
http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk

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User currently offlineemalad From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 37891 times:

Am loving this!!!!   Can't wait to see them at EMA      

User currently offlinerichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 37839 times:

Will economy seat width be about 17"?

User currently offlinesimonriat From UK - England, joined Jul 2010, 138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 37844 times:

Speaking of which just seen on BBC new Dreamliner currently at MAN as part of its world tour.

Has anyone any idea which routes Thomsons will be putting these on? And from when?


User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 37312 times:

Not disliking he livery, but nto sure if I like it either. Seems a little empty around the middle.


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User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 37322 times:

As someone who has been dissapointed in most new schemes and previously hated the Thomson Livery (after the Britannia brand) I think they have managed to make it look nice. Not sure what it is, Maybe the addition of the dark blue to break the mass of light blue from before. Yeah hmm I like it.. good job.

User currently offlineCabincrewifly From Ireland, joined Jul 2011, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 37230 times:

Very nice! Great to see a fresh livery.


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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 37218 times:

Very nice, now can Estonian have their livery back please.

User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 36891 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 7):
Very nice, now can Estonian have their livery back please.

Estonian doesnt have red font or wavey lines. There are only so many colours one can use. Dont think it looks anything like Estonian besides using a few different shades of Blue on one plane. Atleast it isnt just a white plane with some awful font like Finnair/JAL.


User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 36718 times:

I don't like the tail. Couldn't they have put a big red T on it. No one knows the TUI brand so that logo is useless.

Quoting Crosswind (Thread starter):
Although there will be a 9 abreast economy cabin, seat pitch has been confirmed as 34"

I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.


User currently offlinejblua320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3180 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 36660 times:
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Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.

Doesn't First Choice have 33" pitch - and they're charter! Part of the same group, no?

Looks great. Nice job, Thompson!


User currently offlinevirgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 36605 times:

I really like it !

I think the new livery is an improvement on the Britannia / Thomsonfly livery.

The cabin looks lovely and I think they have taken a note from the First Choice aircrafts they inherited.



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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2603 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 36476 times:
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Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.

babybus,
Their standard pitch for long-haul is already 33" - so if you need to see it get on any of their long haul flights today! The ex-First Choice 767s have a more spacious 2-3-2 layout in economy whereas the ex-Thomsonfly 767s are 2-4-2 but both have the same minimum seat pitch. The 787 product is just an evolution of what they currently offer, they realised years ago that for people to use charter for long haul, the high seating densities they can get away with on short-haul won't work if you want your customers to come back again!

Current interior on the ex-First Choice aircraft (introduced in 2005)


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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 36426 times:

Wow. I have to admit I was worried when I heard they were going to change their livery. I hate the current blue and red titles, I just don't think it goes at all, looks cheap and tacky. This look amazing, a vast improvement. And the cabin looks great too. seat pitch will be around 33"/34" as the ex FCA 767's are. That's a major selling point for them. Premium looks great too, Defo worth the extra money.

What is the timeframe for the fleet getting painted? I presume the older 767's will stay as they will be retired gradually anyway. What about the 757 fleet? I know they recently put these in current livery, but if they aren't staying long is it worth paying out again.

I believe they will operate this aircraft on runs to PMI, amongst others, for crew familiarisation. After that SFB and CUN are first. I'd expect HNL et al maybe 2014.

Anyway, well done TOM. Great step in the right direction.



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User currently offlineual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 36386 times:

Looks really good in the cabin, well impressed.

As for the livery....hmmmm!


User currently offlinevirgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 36355 times:

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I don't like the tail. Couldn't they have put a big red T on it. No one knows the TUI brand so that logo is useless.

Quoting Crosswind (Thread starter):Although there will be a 9 abreast economy cabin, seat pitch has been confirmed as 34"

I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.


I disagree ... I think The TUI Brand is known alot more since the merger of First Choice & Thomson and definatley more since the re-brand of Britannia Airways.

Thomson Airways Long Haul aircraft have always been the best in UK Charter for leg room etc... As already mentioned, TOM are just expanding on an already great charter product !



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User currently offlineblueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3068 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 36303 times:

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):

I don't like the tail. Couldn't they have put a big red T on it. No one knows the TUI brand so that logo is useless.

Considering the vast majority of their passengers have subscribed to the Thomson and Tui package, I would have thought it only logical to have the company icon on the tail, no?

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.

     
Quoting Crosswind (Reply 12):
Their standard pitch for long-haul is already 33" - so if you need to see it get on any of their long haul flights today! The ex-First Choice 767s have a more spacious 2-3-2 layout in economy whereas the ex-Thomsonfly 767s are 2-4-2 but both have the same minimum seat pitch.

        

I loathe their shorthaul pitch of 28", but you can not fault them when it comes to long haul, where the pitch is greater than VS, BA etc economy pitch.

You might want to try it Babybus before judging.  

I'm impressed with the new livery; it's an evolution of something I never really liked and which I always thought, from a safety aspect and visibility, wasn't the best.

Now, as I mentioned earlier, if only they could do something about that awful 28" pitch on the 757s; it's the trip nightmares are made of down to SID and BVC on them.  

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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3361 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 36307 times:

Do like that, Hmmm  
Are the Premium seats the cradle type?



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User currently offlinevirgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 36271 times:

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 16):
Now, as I mentioned earlier, if only they could do something about that awful 28" pitch on the 757s

this won't change on the 757's as they are being phased out and replaced by 737's, this is the main reason of cabin crew redundcies @ TOM because the 737's don't require as many cabin crew in flight.



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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 36232 times:

Wierd as the 737s were phased out in favour of B757s!

User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2603 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 36108 times:
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Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 16):
Now, as I mentioned earlier, if only they could do something about that awful 28" pitch on the 757s; it's the trip nightmares are made of down to SID and BVC on them.


Chris Browne has gone on public record as saying the company would also like to change that, but research has shown that people won't pay the additional cost of a less dense layout on short-haul routes up against Ryanair and easyJet. http://www.travolution.co.uk/article...cutive-interview-chris-browne.html

The airline provides aircraft in configurations up to all-First Class as dictated by market segment, but the short-haul market is so price sensitive they're scared to reduce seating density as it impacts unit cost so significantly. It's a shame that the "long haul" product can't be used on these routes... It's a stretch for the short-haul product - but an intermediate product would add too much complexity to aircraft scheduling.

Air 2000 introduced a short-haul premium product with the A321 fleet that lasted til the end of First Choice Airways, for £29-59 return you got 33" pitch, priority baggage, pre take-off sparkling wine and a free drink infight... even at that low price it was never popular enough to be rolled out over the whole fleet. Now with the APD increases such a product would be completely unviable with the tax implications of a premium short-haul product.

Interestingly when our 757s went over to Canada in the winter to service the First Choice Canadian division flying they were reconfigured from 233 to 215 seats to provide 30/31" pitch for that market, although nominally operated by Skyservice they were under full contract to First Choice Canada - who set the seating capacity and product.

Unfortunately the rock bottom prices in the UK market prevent an increase in space on short-haul, the company would love to be able to charge a premium for a more comfortable environment but the market won't support it (in their opinion) and APD changes have meant a separate "Premium" cabin on short-haul is a non-starter for the sort of prices the market is prepared to pay.


Quoting skipness1E (Reply 19):
Wierd as the 737s were phased out in favour of B757s!

Don't worry, the winglet-equipped 757s are staying in the medium term - and will most likely receive the new livery. The most recent 737-800 deliveries have replaced most of the remaining A320s, plus the last 737-300s and the older non-winglet 737-800s which are just leaving the fleet. The next crop of deliveries will replace the remaining A320/321s and non-winglet 757s. The majority of the 757 fleet are late model, including some of the last ones built, and with a lack of a direct replacement they should be safe for another 5 years at least.

Some nice flying "animated" shots of the new livery here;
http://youtu.be/ZavIdtY9jLE

http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/exterior/tui787_exterior2.jpg
http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1405 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 35709 times:

Quite like the new livery.

Shame most of the passengers won't realise the significance of what they're flying on when they're being ferried off on their holidays though!



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8595 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 35529 times:
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The new livery is quite nice but there is too much white in the middle bit IMO.

Quoting Crosswind (Thread starter):
Although there will be a 9 abreast economy cabin, seat pitch has been confirmed as 34" so should still be a comfortable

- Looks nice and pitch is better than the one QR has announced.

Quoting simonriat (Reply 3):
Has anyone any idea which routes Thomsons will be putting these on? And from when?

- I believe there is a thread open on that already.



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User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 35008 times:

I'm sorry, but I hate it. The livery is vile! Why would you have the dark blue "swish" and then suddenly the lighter blue for the tail in a straight line?! I think their current livery is far nicer, but this certainly looks sleeker on the 787. As for the interior, the Premium cabin looks dreadul. Absolutely no wow factor, very uninspiring. Although I really like economy, the colours are perfect and the IFE looks great - although I'm yet to see how good the content is.

Very disappointing Thomson!



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User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 35008 times:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 22):
but there is too much white in the middle

Not sure, but was there not something with the engines having to painted white, and so perhaps the arty eye- needs that section of fuselage white for balance and composition  


25 destinations : Is there a chance the livery will be on G-TAWJ when its delivered in the next couple of weeks, it seems a bit short sighted not to do this now and rep
26 APYu : A 767 is currently being painted in it and will be the first
27 virgincrew : I see why TUI rebranded the airline - but Britannia was known as the Best UK Charter airline and had such a good reputation with the British public, t
28 baje427 : I like the livery minus the tail think they should do something different there maybe it will look better in real life than in the cgi.
29 qf002 : I quite like the livery -- a bit more interesting than their current one, and adds a slightly more premium feel to the exterior of the plane. The inte
30 GCPET : I'm not sure if I like the livery but I definitely think it'll grow on me. As for the onboard product; Well Done Thomson!! GCPET
31 destinations : I had noticed there had been quite a few positioning flights, is it an ex FCA or ex TOM one, as AN is in Greensboro at the moment.
32 airproxx : awful colours, to say the least....
33 LuftyMatt : I agree, I don't know why they don't bring the Britannia name back with an updated livery. I don't know anyone in the UK (outside of aviation circles
34 Post contains links and images dazbo5 : Here you go, as well as my other photos posted by Crosswind; View Large View MediumPhoto © Darren Wilson The new interior will have 34" seat pitch i
35 Post contains images BLIKSEM : Great looking livery. Much improved, I must say. The interior looks really modern and fresh.
36 APYu : Its an ex TOM one
37 Post contains images sergy2k : Lovely new livery for TOM although isn't it just a variation on the wavy dreamliner scheme on the current Boeing Dreamliner?
38 abrown532 : The tail should be dark blue like the aft section of the fuselage. But apart from that, I still think it is a vast improvement on the current TUI Live
39 Post contains links and images gingersnap : What??? TUI is one of the most recognised brands within Europe. Thomson alone is the largest charter carrier on this planet. Then there's X3 which is
40 flylku : The photo of coach was very cleverly done. At first glance it looks like it could be 2-3-2 even though it is 3-3-3.
41 ghifty : One of the better livery redesigns. The curves flow nicely with the Dreamliner's shape. The titles are a bit large.. but at least it's not neo-Eurowhi
42 Post contains images ebj1248650 : I think the colors have a nice balance. The airplane looks good. Will be nice to see the real machine.
43 braynfeeble : WOW, I really like this one. Great job Thomson (I'll always know you as Britannia tho...)
44 TS-IOR : Any chance they bring it to Tunisia, from LGW or MAN ?
45 dazbo5 : Very unlikely as they don't normally operate wide bodies their. Before entering long haul service in May 2013 (from Gatwick, Manchester and East Midl
46 liverpoola380 : I saw the Boeing 787 on 25L @ Manchster yesterday. It was just parked up on the runway. Does anybody have any ideas why?
47 LuftyMatt : Some of Europe, maybe But you say the name TUI to most people in the UK, and they'd look at you like you're odd. It's not a very well known brand ove
48 uta999 : N787BX landing at Gatwick now from Manchester
49 Post contains links blueshamu330s : Every single Thomson and First Choice brochure has reference after reference after reference that Tui is the parent company. The logo is everywhere;
50 airsmiles : I like the interior, but hate the new external livery. I thinks it's because the lines of the aircraft are by definition straight (i.e. a tube with a
51 FriendlySkiesUK : I think livery wise anything is better than the current bland livery Thomson aircraft support – but let’s face it anything was going to be a come
52 Post contains links and images voodoo : Like the new livery. Be interesting to see it on the wingletted 767s as well. Reminds me of an old rare one: View Large View MediumPhoto © Bob Harrin
53 Post contains images DNHW : I really like this livery and can't wait to see it rolling out across the whole fleet. When will this happen?
54 Post contains links and images picturethis : The livery is slick in those photographs. The navy is a good addition. As for the interior, navy seats are navy seats. Not too much you can say. Light
55 virgincrew : I disagree .... I think it is well known now that Thomson & First Choice are part the TUI Brand, however, TUI have been clever by originally keep
56 VC10er : Does anyone know which branding/design agency they worked with?
57 dazbo5 : It was 23L and was for a press conference along with one of TOM's newly delivered 738's (G-TAWI). Darren
58 Post contains links Crosswind : Honour Branding did the interiors, so I assume they did the exterior as well... Possibly a wrong assumption as the livery isn't listed on their websi
59 LuftyMatt : It links to their web-site, not exactly going to do themselves down are they? The word TUI is not well known, ask people outside of the travel or avi
60 Post contains images blueshamu330s : I still beg to differ. Go into a Thomson store, and it's all Tui branded. Even if you're not travelling with them, go to the Med., Red Sea, Cancun etc
61 destinations : So G-OBYG rolled out of Air Livery today, i think seeing the livery sort of makes it more manageable, still looks very strange though to see such a ch
62 raffik : What a fantastic looking mock up. Can't wait to see them in operation, they will really change the face of flying charter!
63 Post contains links destinations : Pic of 767 in new livery http://www.tasmanchester.co.uk/Home.html
64 virginblue4 : I really can't decide if I like it.... Too much white around the middle.
65 raffik : A huge difference to that ugly all over blue
66 tonystan : Hmmm, I rather like that!
67 dazbo5 : This makes seat selection interesting. The economy club cabin will have 60 seats with slightly different seat pitch to the advertised 34". 24 seats in
68 gkirk : Not directly related, but whats happening with G-OBYD, it seemed in a horrid state up at Newcastle a few weeks ago
69 APYu : 33'' is advertised too. Their websites says 33''-34'' The 36'' ones will probably be sold as extra legroom seats, as per other operators.
70 BA777 : Doesn't fit the corporate scheme but if the tail was the darker blue it would look better. Alternatively, if the current light blue section was swappe
71 Post contains links and images Crosswind : I think they actually did a pretty good job with the execution... The curve of the blue area gives more of a nod to the old First Choice cheatline cur
72 virgincrew : Now I have seen it on an actual aircraft - really love it !!!!
73 caribb : Looks good. I hope this is a start of a trend away from giant billboard titles and back to something less "in your face".
74 Post contains images virgincrew : I say bring back Britannia Airways and use this livery ........
75 Giancavia : Oh yes please^ Memories!
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