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El And Al? Israeli Airline Mulls Splitting Into Tw  
User currently offlinedaviation From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

El and Al? Israeli airline mulls splitting into two companies


In today's English-language Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, this question about El Al has come up. One of the two companies would specialize in premium long-haul flights to destinations such as the U.S. and the Far East (with 777s), while the second would compete against low-cost airlines on European routes (with 737s).

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

That would make sense if they were to do that. But then again they can also do that as one airline, like they do now.

User currently offlineblink182 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 5499 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2954 times:

Problem I see is that LY seems to use everything from the 73S to the 744 on their European routes. Maybe if they want to make Y class a no frills BOB service on shorthauls, they can do that, but I can't see how premium pax would tolerate flying one way on a 747 in F or C and then on the return be stuck in a 737 configured entirely in discount Y.

Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 29009 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2871 times:

I have noticed the Israel market has gotten ever more competitive in recent years with entry of foreign LCCs (also growth of Arkia and Israir at home) combined with record tourism arrivals.

Additionally, today El Al serves much more than simply a transport for the Israeli/Jewish diaspora especially on European markets where El Al is as much of a viable option for the consumer as any airline when visiting Israel.

I can see the logic of trying to split product offerings maybe, however I do wonder if yet again an airline within and airline concept is bound to failure unless they can hand in hand reduce the cost base of the proposed 737s operation to provide a clear distinct advantage over the legacy El Al unit cost.

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User currently offlineMike909 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Quoting blink182 (Reply 2):

Exactly, LY frequently using 762's and 763's for a large amount of European routes, not to mention the 744's and 772's also used a lot.

Where would the 767's come in all of this? I can't see them being refitted with the same product as on 777's ECE and ECF and long-haul flights on them are unbearable.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):

I have noticed the Israel market has gotten ever more competitive in recent years with entry of foreign LCCs (also growth of Arkia and Israir at home) combined with record tourism arrivals.

Not to mention the expanding competition from low-cost carries such as easyJet. They've increased service from LTN and now adding MAN. Also opened routes from BSL and GVA.

User currently offlinetodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2826 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Let's not forget that Mr Blumenkranz of Haaretz likes to make big announcements based on...nothing. And if such a concept is actually in discussion, I doubt it will be implemented. Seems doomed to failure.

Btw where is "El Al basic".....?

I bitterly miss the livery that should never have been changed (repetition...)
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