GSTBA From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 400 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4332 times:
Quoting skipness1E (Thread starter): Interesting move by BA CityFlyer to nullify both CityJet and anyone taking up ABZ-LHR. Excellent product on the ERJs out of City.
When IAG first announced the planned takeover of BD, they vowed to maintain services to Aberdeen and Edinburgh from London. At present BA & BD operate a total of up to 12 flights daily between LHR & ABZ that number will very likely to fall now that BA has announced the LCY service from up to 12 flights daily to LHR to just between 5 and 7. With capacity being added whilst frequencies are cut
anstar From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 4845 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4091 times:
A nice way of BA being able to keep London-ABZ capacity and presumably freeing up some LHR BD slots to be used elsewhere. (Presuming BA keep their LHR-ABZ capacity and cut BD's)
GCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1104 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4001 times:
LCY is clearly capacity limited (both on the runway and on the parking stands). How close is it to running at full capacity at peak hours? Will this limit the ability to move some O&D shorthaul to LCY and free seats (and slots) into LHR for longhaul connecting pax? Primarily this would affect BA although others might start finding it difficult to compete on (say) LCY-ABZ if there isn't suitably timed slot/stand capacity.
GSTBA From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 400 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3993 times:
Flights now showing on BA.com but strangley the flight numbers are not starting BA8XXX. which the rest of the BACF flights do. Also when you click on flights it says it offers both Club and Traveller
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3721 times:
LCY is no longer as busy as it was at peak times in terms of movements, there are free stands and some wriggle room. Remember quite a few airlines have gone leaving the corr flag carriers and company.
Quite a few carriers have pulled out recently. SAS went a while back, Aer Arann ended this month, Lufthansa no longer fly to DUS, HAM or TXL. Air Southwest also went.
Basel is returning with Swiss though up to twice daily and Alitalia now fly the Milan route with their E190s so not all bad.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6619 posts, RR: 17 Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3214 times:
Quoting GCT64 (Reply 3): How close is it to running at full capacity at peak hours?
There are 19 available arrival and 19 available departure slots per hour at LCY
The airport is operational 15.5 hours (06:30 to 22:00) on weekdays, 6 hours (06:30 to 12:30) on Saturday and 9.5 hours (12:30 to 22:00) on Sunday, or 93 hours a week. Between 06:30 and 07:00 the total Air Traffic Movements (ATMs)are limited to 6. At all other times there are a maximum of 38 ATM an hour.
Arithmetically that makes the maximum capacity at LCY ((90 x 38) (6 x 6)) or 3,456 ATM per week. This Summer Season comprises 31 weeks (25 March to 27 October). So the total available slots this summer is 107,136.
there were 40,546 allocated slots at the start of the current season. So LCY is - other considerations such as stand availability and terminal capacity ignored - operating at 38 per cent of capacity.
As can be seen on page 11 of the S12 report on the above web site, at no time of the day is LCY working to maximum capacity. However it is working very close to maximum capacity between 06:30 and 08:00 and between 17:00 and 18:00. At no other time is it working at above 50 per cent of capacity for any significant period of time. (This slight qualification is only necessary as there is one ten minute period in the day outside the above times that scheduled departures exceed the 50 per cent capacity mark by one flight and two similar periods where arrivals also exceed the half capacity figure by one flight.
Since I moved to London I have seen the following come and go :
Darwin LCY-BRN -> Sky Work after a break of a few years
Euro Manx LCY-IOM -> Aer Arann LCY-IOM just dropped this month
FlyBabbo LCY-GVA
Lufthansa LCY-DUS / HAM / STR / NUE / TXL
SAS LCY-CPH / ARN -> BA CityFlyer
CityJet inherited the Air One Milan route, operated for Volare on LCY-LIN, now in Alitalia metal with a Volare callsign.
VLM LCY-MAN / LPL
T3 LCY-NCL
CB / AF / WX LCY-BHD
Fewer high frequency Fokker 50s and more larger capacity ERJs really. The field has two rush hours like most business airports and any short haul business route failing to gain access at these times is pointless.
There are now a lot more leisure routes, even at peak times some days to France and Spain.
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2615 times:
Quoting emalad (Reply 14): just taken from thebasource.com
It's reply four lol but cool !
Arguably Sun Air is under British Airways so it's arguably eight.
Or ten if you split out BA CityFlyer from BA Mainline.
I was disappointed that KLM pulled out in favour of CityJet as although the RJ85 is a step up from the Fokker 50, it's not as nice as the competing BA ERJ-175. I suspect a KLM ERJ-195 would offer a much better product.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6619 posts, RR: 17 Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1803 times:
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 18): It's not two class, all BA domestic is one class, albeit more legroom in the better seats up front.
I believe that in the BA CityFlyer E-jets all seats - both up front and down the back - have the same pitch. Correct me if I am wrong but I understood that:
The E170 has 76 C/Y seats. All are 31" spaced slim-back seats.
The E190 has 98 C/Y seats. All are 34" spaced slim-back seats.
Everything is different on BA mainline short haul aircraft where the forward row seats have a 34" pitch and the aft row seats have a 31" pitch.
They run city centre to city centre which usually reduces both time and total cost.
Between Euston and Manchester Picadilly there is that thing that SRB says he so abhors, a total monopoly supplier. But its called Virgin Trains so perhaps it does not count.
25 heebeegb: You won't see an LCY-MAN (in my personal view) Most LHR-MAN pax feed longhauls out of T5 and the low frequency LGW-MAN picks up the O&D market. Wh
26 jumpjets: I've just come back from an LCY-NCE-LCY round trip this week on BA E190s and I can confirm that the seating has [for economy] very good legroom - muc
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