emalad From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 443 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3864 times:
Hi everyone, thought I would start a topic about the future of my local airport EMA with the uncertain future of BMI and BMIbaby. I was sat here wondering what would happen if they were to disappear from the airport. That would have a massive impact, unless someone takes over the routes. I can't see EZY coming back Seeing as we would only be left with Ryanair, Jet2, Thomson and a couple of Flybe flights, it doesn't look like it is going to be very busy.
* How many aircraft do WW have based at the airport?
* Would be nice to see Monarch coming into the airport, but I can't see that happening.
* At least we will be getting the 787 thanks to Thomson.
* Would Flybe want to have more presense with a base at BHX just down the road?
* Are the cargo operations still growing? Apart from DHL, who else comes into EMA?
Would be good to see what everyone else thinks. Just when the airport looks to be picking up, it gets yet another kick in the teeth.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3558 times:
I lived 15 minutes from EMA for 3 years and enjoyed visiting and flying from the facility.
Anyway, EMA had, in the week starting 18th April, 55,183 one-way seats. Of this, FR was the leader with 40% followed by WW with 33%. If WW disappeared and no one else replaced at all, then clearly that would have significant consequences on routes, capacity, and passenger traffic. But in reality there will likely be some, if not complete, replacement of their routes.
Source: OAG Schedules iNET.
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emalad From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3099 times:
Would Flybe want to operate out of EMA with BHX being just down the road?
Would be nice to see Jet2 strengthening their operations at EMA. Don't they have 2 757s based there at the moment? I always see a 737 fly to BFS each night, not sure if this is a positioning flight or not.
BasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1301 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2949 times:
Quoting emalad (Thread starter): * Are the cargo operations still growing? Apart from DHL, who else comes into EMA?
- Several airlines operating for DHL like Aerologic, Bluebird and Swiftair.
- UPS and Star Air (opf UPS)
- Royal Mail flights, operated by Jet2 (see above), Titan Airways and Europe Airpost.
And maybe a few more but this should be the majority.
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BritMidFokker From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2012, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2643 times:
I have no doubt someone will step into fill the void left by WW. I used to live near and work at EMA (am now in HKG, quite a difference!) and can remember GLA/EDI/BRU/CDG/BFS etc being operated continually over the years by British Midland DC-9s then Fokker 70/100s and more recently by bmibaby with 733/735s. These routes don't really suit Ryanair/Jet2 but I'm sure would be perfect for Flybe. I'm sure Jet2 will continue to grow at EMA by basing more aircraft and who can say what Ryanair will decide to do. They seem fairly happy with EMA however.
As for Cargo, EMA is HUGELY important, and I think this side of the business will continue to thrive. EMA is logistically very well situated for Cargo and Mail. According to their website mail was up 10.9% last year.
Quoting emalad (Reply 10): On a positive note, at least EMA will be one of the first airports in the UK to have 787 operation
Amazing for EMA, wish I could be there to see the 1st one land!
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7255 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1862 times:
Quoting emalad (Reply 14): That's a shame. Would have been nice to see some more BA aircraft at EMA
320 G-MIDX is at EMA now. It is slated to be rolled out in BA livery and with a BA cabin on 14 May. 'DS is due at EMA on 26 May presumably for similar treatment. And I expect more will follow whether or not BA disposes of the British Midland Maintenance facility and Paint Shop at EMA.
Does anyone know the status of these facilities? Are they owned by BD or are they owned by Manchester Airports Group and leased to BD? And what about the BD hangar at LHR? Who owns it, the ground it is built on and the adjacent ramp? Was it BAA or BD - now BAA or BA?
At LHR BA own their maintenance facilities and all of the land on which they and the associated ramps are built. So that's why they tow aircraft temporarily out of service from T5 at the west end of the airport all the way to their maintenance area at the east end of the airport to park them and why, when the knocked down the hangars at what was then the west base (still at the east end of the airport), they turned it into a pretty large aircraft park. They also generate a small income by renting out spare space to other airlines with long day time stop-overs. Presumably they rent out this space at a lower price than BAA charges to park during the day on a remote stand.
I've often seen other airlines planes parked on the BD ramp at LHR. But I have never been sure if they have been there for corrective maintenance or are simply parked there to reduce parking charges. Note here that I think that BAA only charge for aircraft parking in operational hours. They certainly used to levy parking charges for each 15 minutes or part of 15 minutes. But I believe there is I(was?) no charge when the airport is closed even for being parked on a stand with an air bridge.
As an aside has anyone heard about the likely future of the bmi Training Centre at West Drayton near LHR. Again there is the issue of who owns the building. There is also the future of the Oxford Aviaion Academy facilities to consider. Their 320, 737 and 330/340 convertible simulators are located in the Training Centre.