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AirFrance Codeshares With Continental  
User currently offlineSteman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1403 posts, RR: 7
Posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1117 times:

Hello guys,
I was checking on AirFrance website for flights from Paris to New York as I'm planning to cross the pond again in November and I was surprised to see that AF still has a codeshare agreement with Continental for flights to Newark, in particular AF016, operated by a CO 777 and AF018 operated with a 764.
I just find it weird since the strong and well established relationship with Delta, which is the major player in the New York area for transatlantic flights. Why doesn't Air France operates flight to Newark only on its own and why Delta allows its European partner to have a codeshare agreement with its biggest rival in New York?

Ciao

Stefano

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User currently offlineDaV From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 669 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1077 times:

Who knows? Maybe it has something to do with the rumor of a possible DL/CO merger? If I don't mind also AZ has some kind of codeshared flights with CO to Newark, and since they have dropped any agreement with Northwest due to the entrance in Sky Team, why didn't they do the same with CO?
Sorry to have posted more questions than answers  Wink/being sarcastic

Rgds

DaV



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User currently offlineSteman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1403 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1070 times:

Ciao DaV,
actually Alitalia dropped the agreement with CO some months ago or more and this is weird too since CO is more than a partner for NW so I don't understand why AZ left Co for NW instead of keeping both codeshares......

It must be a matter of politics!!!

Ciao

Stefano


User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3469 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1042 times:
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It's not so much politics as legalities. The codesharing agreement between AF and CO will not expire until sometime in 2004. I would think it's a safe bet to say it won't be renewed beyond that date.


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User currently offlineAf007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1033 times:

And AF does operate one flight from EWR on a 747 - sometimes 400, sometimes (rarely) 200.

User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2194 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

The AF/CO codeshares predate Air France's entry into SkyTeam. As Iahcsr pointed out, the agreement lasts until 2004.

The codeshare is making money for both parties... so why terminate it early?


User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1003 times:

I guees that DL isn't too happy over this, but there is not so much that they can do. I guees that AF would have to pay a lot if they want to brake the agreement.

GOT



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User currently offlineAf007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 985 times:

...and I hope the agreement is continued, though of course it probably won't be :-(

User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 972 times:

Are they codesharing with United also? I couldn't help but notice that they have flights to Paris out of Chicago, Washington Dulles, San Fransisco, and Los Angeles, which are United hubs. Also, doesn't AF has CO codeshare flights out of Houston?

-Jeffrey Stricker


User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3469 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 973 times:
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AF33 codeshares as CO82 IAHCDG
CO10 codeshares as AF?? IAHCDG



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User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 957 times:

AF33/CO10 codeshare on the IAH-CDG run. This codeshare to EWR/IAH is a good thing for both airlines, even though AF is in Skyteam. CO/AF when partnered have a monopoly on the EWR/IAH-CDG market. If they didn't codeshare, they would be competing with eachother, thus lowering prices. So theoretically, it would be better for the consumer if they didn't codeshare. However, I do love getting Onepass mileage when flying transatlantic on AF.

User currently offlineCo/ba From United States of America, joined May 2001, 399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 951 times:

Strickerje

Flts operated by AF form IAD to CDG are codeshares with Delta. I don't know about the others


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