ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12329 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14513 times:
From an article on this I just read, it will be part of a Discovery Channel series on crash landings to be shown in 2012. IIRC, about 20 years ago there was an intentional crash of an old B 720 with a load of fuel to try to figure out ways to reduce deaths and injuries from fire in a crash landing.
Edit: actually this was done in 1984 via NASA to see if an additive could be put into fuel to reduce fire in a crash. Here is webpage with video of the tests: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/movie/CID/index.html
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11705 posts, RR: 52 Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11797 times:
It clearly shows the dangers of landing nose wheel first (as no one was aboard to flair), with the nose section and cockpit braking off and rolling under the main fuselarge.
g500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 720 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10326 times:
Quoting BryanG (Reply 6): I'd love to know exactly what they wanted to achieve in that 727 test. What were they trying to simulate?
I was wondering the same thing, also there is PLENTY of desert in the U.S (NM, NV, AZ, TX, even California) I wonder if the U.S Government and the FAA told the Discovery Channel "OH HELL NO"...
Darksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 979 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9583 times:
Believe it or not, g500, that seems likely. The FAA might have a problem with it, but also the EPA as well. There's a fair bit of oversight to aircraft disposal, and I doubt crashing one would pass muster that way.
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CM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9332 times:
I'd like to know the details of the pilots' egress from the airplane. The aft airstairs do not appear down in the video, although I suspect this is how it was done; leaving though a cabin exit in a commercial jet is no easy task and very high risk.
MCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 519 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9181 times:
I wonder how the crew were able to parachute out of the aircraft, given the location of the engines - they must have done something to avoid getting caught in or striking them.
francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3195 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8857 times:
Quoting CM (Reply 9): The aft airstairs do not appear down in the video, although I suspect this is how it was done; leaving though a cabin exit in a commercial jet is no easy task and very high risk.
They probably removed it altogether to ensure nothing would prevent the pilots' escape.
They joined the exclusive club of live commercial pilots with less landings than takeoffs...
Quoting g500 (Reply 7): I wonder if the U.S Government and the FAA told the Discovery Channel "OH HELL NO"...
I'm guessing that's exactly what's happened.
They've probably even banned inbound calls from Discovery Channel by now after being tiredlessly harrassed by the Mythbusters for so many years.
Willingly crashing an aircraft on the ground close to a group of people filming it while the pilots would jump out with parachutes just prior sounds like the plot of an action movie. An official from a civil aviation agency in the US or Europe would have a brain seizure at the very mention of the idea...
Not to mention the hoards of ecotards protesting about the littering of aircraft debris and fuel in a natural area.
The necessary clearance must have been hard enough to arrange even in Mexico.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
This is the only photo in database, but it is generic. No construction/line # or customer code. So how do we find out who this was first delivered to & when?
dlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 505 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8397 times:
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Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 13): This is the only photo in database, but it is generic. No construction/line # or customer code. So how do we find out who this was first delivered to & when?
PITingres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 954 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8162 times:
Quoting francoflier (Reply 11): An official from a civil aviation agency in the US or Europe would have a brain seizure at the very mention of the idea ...
In which case one can only hope that it was mentioned early and often...
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4840 posts, RR: 28 Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7838 times:
as per the articles in Spanish, they removed the airstairs and the door. So, I guess pressurization was never in the cards. Now if the idea was to try to attempt a landing through remote control, as the articles in Spanish also state, the attempt obviously failed miserably.
PPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8492 posts, RR: 43 Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7383 times:
Quoting g500 (Reply 7): I was wondering the same thing, also there is PLENTY of desert in the U.S (NM, NV, AZ, TX, even California)
Why would it have to be done in the US? In another article, it's mentioned that this place was chosen after a long search and they considered it ideal.
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United727 From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 379 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6279 times:
It appears the engines may be intact as well! Certain they ingested a considerable amount of debris and dirt, but they appear to be visually unharmed! Wonder if they'll attempt to reuse them????
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Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2736 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4344 times:
Quoting MCO2BRS (Reply 10): I wonder how the crew were able to parachute out of the aircraft, given the location of the engines - they must have done something to avoid getting caught in or striking them.
I believe it is referred to as the "D.B. Cooper Method" of egress. IIRC in the '90s there was a DC-9 with the aft airstairs removed for a similar exit for parachutists.
pliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 446 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4109 times:
Quoting PPVRA (Reply 18): Why would it have to be done in the US? In another article, it's mentioned that this place was chosen after a long search and they considered it ideal.
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25 AirlineCritic: If you define that as pilots who were not onboard when the plane came down, that must be a very exclusive club! I cannot remember a single other inci
26 HiFlyerAS: Thanks 28L...was digging around trying to find that info. We had a rag-tag fleet of -27's back then....some new, some from Braniff and others that we
27 Kamran73: Interesting video. There's already a database entry on ASN: http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20120427-0 Out of curiosity, would this
28 bennett123: A bit tough on the dummies at the front.
29 United727: These bastards used a "rare" aircraft, whether it was cheap or not, this was one of the FEW remaining AIRWORTHY B727 Pax ships! They could have used s
30 garpd: Chill dude, chill. At least it went out with a bang instead of rotting away quietly in a slow death.
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