USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1411 posts, RR: 53 Posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 19032 times:
Looking over the pictures of the first delivery of the 747-8i to Lufthansa, as many of you know, she remains nameless.
I've also noted that right above where the name will/would be, the Boeing logo "Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental" is also missing. My guess is that both will be completed by Lufthansa Technik in FRA, prior to her inaugural flights in June.
Any guesses as to what her name will be?
[Edited 2012-05-02 04:43:28]
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With the third A380 delivered, they deviated from the standard of naming their aircraft after German states and cities (with the exception of the A340 named "Gander & Halifax"). Perhaps this will extend to the 747-8 fleet as well, perhaps it will not - but with the retirements of more and more 747-400s, their names become available and some have been or will be used for A380s. Others may be reserved for the 747-8.
USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1411 posts, RR: 53 Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 18943 times:
I guess "Washington, DC" wouldn't be too far of a stretch, based on what you've noted.
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MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 18439 times:
Germany had so many wonderful composers. I don't see why Lufthansa should not name their planes after them.
I would be proud to fly on board planes named "Richard Wagner", "Ludwig van Beethoven", "Johannes Brahms", "Richard Strauss", "Johann Sebastian Bach", "Georg Friedrich Händel", "Joseph Haydn", "Gustav Mahler", "Felix Mendelssohn", "Franz Schubert", "Georg Philipp Telemann", "Carl Maria von Weber" or "Robert Schumann".
Their music could be played for welcoming passengers on board their respective named airplanes and also while disembarking.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9616 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 18399 times:
As mostly I agree with you, MadameConcorde. Actually its even something I mentioned in a LH meeting last year when talking about the A380/748I naming issue. But I expect they´ll just transfer state and city names from 744s being retired.
LOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 985 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 18091 times:
Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8): Doesn't Austrian name the aircraft after musicians?
No. They are named after all sorts of things. There is an A321 named after my home district. God only knows why anyone would name anything after Pinzgau, but there it is.
Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8): If I remember correctly, this is no recommendation.
The new names on the A380 with the global city names doesn´t seem very LH like to me. Nothing special in that!?
They should think big - how about " Solar System" , " Milky Way" ...
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7771 posts, RR: 26 Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 17894 times:
Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8): Doesn't Austrian name the aircraft after musicians? If I remember correctly, this is no recommendation.
Lauda did indeed, but that was more the likes of Bob Marley, Elvis Presley or Falko
the 748 will most likely get the names of the states and larger cities. Since Berlin is taken already for a A380, that leaves 15 state names for the first batch of 748s. MUC and FRA is also for the 380, but there are enough large cities in Germany , Lh won't run out of names.
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7771 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 17768 times:
They stay with the earthly names for sure.
To keep up the family tradition, the new baby made a touch and go at HAM this morning before flying on t FRA. I could be mistaken, but I think all 747s were flown from either BFI or PAE to HAM first.
Semaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 769 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 17619 times:
Quoting columba (Reply 10): I believe the 747-8I will like the -430 be named after German Federal States. The A380 is named after major Cities worldwide and large German cities.
Not quite correct. The A380 is given the names of major Star Alliance hub cities or destinations the bird flies to. What "Berlin" has to do with those, not too sure, but hey, it's a great city nonetheless.
I personally wished they named the 748 after culturally or historically important regions of Germany. Many spring to mind when I think about it: Rhein-Main, Ruhrgebiet, Ostfriesland, Schwarzwald, Schwaben, Brandenburg, Tirol etc...
I'm not sure if it was classy for LH to give away names which don't really have anything to do with Germany (except for "Gander-Halifax", that one deserves it!).
Here's to hoping the 748 will reuse the cities and Länder the 744 leaves behind.
// You know you're an aviation enthusiast when you look at your neighbour's cars and think about fleet commonality.
TheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3347 posts, RR: 30 Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14755 times:
Quoting Semaex (Reply 15): What "Berlin" has to do with those, not too sure, but hey, it's a great city nonetheless.
While no major A380 destination, Berlin has several purposes:
1. LH was not allowed to fly to Berlin before reunification - that it is allowed to do so today is still a big reason to celebrate for LH.
2. It is the german capital.
3. LHs ancient history before WW2 (despite the current company not being linked to this company) had a lot to do with Berlin.
USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1411 posts, RR: 53 Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14219 times:
Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8): Doesn't Austrian name the aircraft after musicians?
I think one of their 737s was named "Freddy Mercury", and I believe that carried over from Lauda if I'm not mistaken.
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CiC From Germany, joined Jun 2010, 30 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14183 times:
Just my opinion, get rid of the Names of the German states,
christen the 748 with names of German Aviation pioneers, like the Ladies Hannah Reitsch, Elly Beinhorn, Kätchen Paulus or the men, Manfred Baron von Richthofen, Graf Zeppelin, Hugo Eckener, or even LH pioneers like Otto Brauer (LH's famous Captain of the Junkers G38), von Gablenz, ... Would be better to remind history! And tell their stories onboard (pics, infos...).
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16831 posts, RR: 57 Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14006 times:
Quoting CiC (Reply 19): christen the 748 with names of German Aviation pioneers, like the Ladies Hannah Reitsch, Elly Beinhorn, Kätchen Paulus or the men, Manfred Baron von Richthofen, Graf Zeppelin, Hugo Eckener, or even LH pioneers like Otto Brauer (LH's famous Captain of the Junkers G38), von Gablenz, ... Would be better to remind history! And tell their stories onboard (pics, infos...).
The problem is that many of these names also hearken to the 1930's/Nazi period in time leading up to WWII. That isn't exactly something that LH wants to market!
USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1411 posts, RR: 53 Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13927 times:
If anyone has a link to the delivery cermony at FRA I'm sure that would be a real treat for those of us not lucky enough to actually have been there.
Lufthansa - You've got a beautiful new baby!! And she'll always be the Queen of the Skies!
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SXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2013 posts, RR: 19 Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12136 times:
Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 21): Lufthansa - You've got a beautiful new baby!! And she'll always be the Queen of the Skies!
Glad to see LH continue its 747 legacy, while other airlines are sadly ending theirs. IF only LH could have continued on with the 737.. a 737-930MAX defiantly has a nice ring to it!
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
geizistgeil From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10908 times:
Quote: If anyone has a link to the delivery cermony at FRA I'm sure that would be a real treat for those of us not lucky enough to actually have been there.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 10589 times:
Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 21): If anyone has a link to the delivery cermony at FRA I'm sure that would be a real treat for those of us not lucky enough to actually have been there.
I have posted links with lots of pictures of the Frankfurt post-landing ceremony on the other thread - you must have missed out! 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD (by AlitaliaDC10 Apr 29 2012 in Civil Aviation)
Reposting for those who did not see them
This has pictures of the ceremony along with lots of great pictures of the 747-8i interiors (all 3 classes)
You will have to copy/paste as it does not seem to link directly. The pictures are wornderful just as if you are inside the airplane.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
25 Gunsontheroof: Heck, why not name it "Seattle?" LH certainly won't be using the 748 on FRA-SEA, but they've had a long enough relationship with Boeing that it might
26 wilco737: That's an excellent idea. I like that idea a lot. But somehow I doubt it will happen. I guess it will get some German City name. Not sure which, but
27 na: Very good idea indeed. It would signal the close relationship between LH and Boeing as well as an interesting destination.
29 MadameConcorde: My vote for naming the new Lufthansa 747-8i goes to Ludwig van Beethoven. Fill up the whole lower deck with the Berlin Philharmonic playing Beethoven'
30 aloges: That'd be a sight to behold! However, they shouldn't play Wagner on flights to SGN...
31 USAF336TFS: Great pictures of the welcome at FRA Ms. Madame! Grazia!! Once she (D-ABYA) starts strutting her stuff, I think we'll see that trend begin to reverse
32 tomgib: The touch and go in HAM tells the whole story... If I´m not mistaking, the first 747-400 was named Hamburg too..!?
34 Gunsontheroof: I like the nod to RA001, but if Seattle is a long-shot, Everett is a hope and a prayer. I won't even get into the city's lack of redeeming qualities
35 MadameConcorde: I am a bit jealous of Qatar Amiri as they are the true First to Fly the 747-8i. Nobody who is not an insider of the Emir will know where they flew fir
36 aloges: Inernet to the rescue: "Hamburg" is D-ABTD which joined the fleet on 27APR1990. http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa/ The first 747-400 to join the fleet
37 Rara: Ah yes, MI will be christened "Berlin". While I appreciate an A380 named after my hometown, I don't like that they discontinue the tradition of namin
38 aloges: Hmm... they aren't exactly holding back on expansion at BER, are they? But I agree that it is sort of in the same league as naming one "São Paulo" w
39 Burkhard: So Washington and Hamburg are the hottest candidates, followed by Chicago, Newark and Dehli? The name that just got free is Sachsen, so no city. Germa
40 wilco737: Hamburg is still flying. It is D-ABTD and will fly until 2013 when the next 5 748 join the fleet. So chances are rather low for this as well - at the
41 PanHAM: The names on the 744 fleet (and before on the 742) was always a mix between states and state capitals, plus Bochum, Muehlheim/Ruhr and Wolfsburg. The
42 MadameConcorde: Thanks for the information. You sure know more than me! I would love to fly on their new Big Bee... any time! I would have to catch their Katara Yach
43 someone83: Well, they been saying that for ages, but we still haven't seen many orders
44 USAF336TFS: I guess we'll see now that she's in service. Lufthansa has reported better then expected performance, so far. Once she goes through her "break in" we
45 USAF336TFS: Wilco my friend, please let us know when she is named. Fascinating to see what fleet plannings name conventions will be for the 748s. I find it inter
46 wilco737: I don't know anything about the name. There are rumours, but nothing worth talking about. Only rumours. Once I know something I will let you guys kno
47 USAF336TFS: I found that strange too as I commented in my first post on this thread. I'm guessing that both will be applied by Technik before she starts her runs
48 geizistgeil: It's all about corporate identity: There is no title on the plane, because Boeing demanded the Boeing font, what Lufthansa did not want on their plan
49 DocLightning: Why is Boeing allowed to dictate that?
50 Gunsontheroof: I noticed years ago that LH doesn't use the Boeing font on their 737/747 fleets even though they do (or, did) paint the a/c type near the nose. I hav
51 dennys: I am a bit jealous of Qatar Amiri as they are the true First to Fly the 747-8i. Nobody who is not an insider of the Emir will know where they flew fi
52 Confuscius: Do they have one named after Falco? You know, "Der Kommissar" and "Rock Me Amadeus" fame.
53 MadameConcorde: How many times have they flown the new 74H Lady Bee since she arrived from Everett? I am sure the Senior Captains and FOs in charge took their new gir
54 dennys: Yes !! I am searching one commercial training flight from FRA to any place in Germany or Europe in Amadeus GDS . Still nothing found . Please help us
55 mikey72: What about 'Brandenburg' ? The 748 and Brandenburg are both associated with improvement and better times ?? Has a nice ring to it too...Brandenburg. I
56 Semaex: from Everett? You mean from Toulouse The "official nickname" of D-AIMA was "Lady Bee", something LH has so far very nicely managed to cover up
57 PanHAM: They used to, but "Freddie Mercury" and "Wiener Saengerknaben" are the only remnants from the days when Niki owned the place. Not only the font but t
58 MadameConcorde: I remember the naming competition. I participated to it. I think the Lady Bee name fits the new-est big bird of the Lufthansa fleet the 747-8i much m
59 wilco737: Haven't heard anything yet. I guess the mechanics have their fun with her. Sorry, but personally I don't like the name 'Lady- Bee' for the B 747-8 in
60 LH422: Judging by the site http://fraaviation.forumsfree.de/f3-movements-fotos she hasn't left the hangar yet, otherwise they would have snapped a picture i
61 Aquila3: I must say that German Geography and History wonders me every day. Since when Tirol was part of Germany? I must have missed it.
62 Semaex: This is actually me you're quoting there. Not sure why the quoting function has got you redirected there... Anyways, I apologize, of course Tirol isn
63 Aquila3: Sorry for the misquoting. Anyway it was just for fun Since I am also spending a lot of time in Austria, I gathered that your idea would not be partic
64 dennys: Rumor ... Rumor ... LH could send the 74H to some European destinations to show her " new Baby " ! wait and see . Concerring the Names , i hope each 7
65 USAF336TFS: As of now, what retired 744's names are available?
66 wilco737: Only 'Bonn' as D-ABVB is retired and the name of D-ABVA (Berlin) will be on an A380. wilco737
67 aloges: However, "Frankfurt am Main" and "München" used to be D-ABVF and VL. The names were given to the A380s D-AIMA and MB while the 747s became nameless.
68 USAF336TFS: So it sounds like "Bonn" is in the running?
69 columba: I read in a German forum that the name that is supposed to be on the first 747-8I is not available yet, therefore there are no markings on the aircraf
70 PanHAM: 744 D-ABTD is named Hamburg and although joined the fleet in 1990 is not scheduled for retirement yet. The touch and go at HAM might have been to kee
71 MadameConcorde: Any news of Big Bee D-ABYA getting out of her hangar and taking to the skies for trial runs? They can't keep her locked up for that much longer! She i
72 kanban: there is a picture of her on the a.net photo page with what looks like a special paint scheme on the engine cowl... not sure how to post it here howev
73 columba: It is just the reflection of the light there is no special paint scheme on the engine cowl
74 Semaex: + MD11F if I'm not mistaken, but they removed the continent names on those aircraft a long time ago. Truly wished this was a special paintjob on the
75 PanHAM: MD-11 "D-ALCD" is the only aircraft in the cargo fleet right now that is named. "Michael Otto" represents the owner family of "Otto Versand" , the lar
76 USAF336TFS: I would find it very difficult to believe that the newest member of what is arguably amongst the gems of LH's long haul fleet would go unnamed. I'm st
77 na: LH could just remove names from older, soon to be retired 744s and transfer them to new 748s. They did that with D-ABVF "Frankfurt am Main", and D-AV
78 OJ99: The first LH747-8i (D-ABYA) will be named after the german federal-state of "Brandenburg". I saw her a couple of hours ago at FRA. Sorry, no pictures.
79 columba: So will it be christened in Schönefeld
80 PanHAM: Either way, the airport remaines there anyhow. They could still switch to Neubrandenburg Trollenhagen.
81 USAF336TFS: Is this confirmed? Also, will the Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental logo be painted on as well?
82 Fly-K: She departed to LEJ this afternoon for training, to return to FRA later tonight. Saw a pic on a FRA spotter forum with the aircraft type and name sti
83 columba: Saw pictures of it in LEJ no stickers applied but it was hard to read I believe I can confirm it is Brandenburg if my eyes are not too bad PS Those of
84 na: The naming is no real surprise, though I had expected a more important state or city on the very first 748. So we can be sure now the 748s will get th
85 na: One other thing I noticed, something that doesnt fit to LHs policy: after 3 weeks of post-delivery maintenance D-ABYA still carries its registrations
86 Fly-K: AFAIK this is the new lighter fond that has now been used for the registrations for a while.
87 747classic: Here is a photo of RC022/D-ABYA "Brandenburg". Original uploaded by IIama1901, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/32090718@N05/7260154512/in/photostream
88 na: I noticed that on a A320 I flew with last month. Looks like DIN Bold font. Has been on new planes already back in the 90s sometimes, but was changed
89 Fly-K: It might be a LBA rule as the more recent Condor and AB registrations look similar.
91 na: AB uses DIN font for registrations, same as LH now. When will the next 748s be delivered to LH, D-ABVC and D-ABVD? July/August I guess.
92 OJ99: D-ABYC (cn 37828) is scheduled for delivery on June 30. D-ABYD (cn 37829) will follow on July 31, D-ABYF (cn 37830) on August 30 and D-ABYE (cn 37826
93 Rheinbote: I'd call her 'Sidewinder' as reportedly she doesn't fly straight...
94 TheSonntag: I heard that rumour as well - someone told me the aft fuel tanks cannot be filled at the moment, as it has some CG issue or something like that. I do
95 wilco737: That is confirmed. The tail tank is deactivated. It cannot be used at the moment. About flying not straight, I haven't heard that from any 748i pilot
96 747classic: Probably D-ABYC will not be ready at June 30. The first (B1)flight still has to be completed. Normally it takes 1-2 weeks between the first flight an
97 Rheinbote: The tail tank issue is unrelated. Both issues are minor. For the time being the tail tank is disabled. It was found that in the very remote case that
98 sweair: Imagine a 748 with more cfrp and Al-Li, should have some low hanging fruit to pick? I can Imagine it would require a longer certification though. But
99 MadameConcorde: I hear that Brandenburg will be the chosen name for the new Lufthansa 747-8i. I will be on the turnaround inaugurals FRA-IAD-FRA LH416/LH419 tomorrow
100 B738FlyUIA: Then I wish you a happy first commercial flight on the B748-I and look forward to your TR with all super pics
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