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JetBlue Operation In CLT  
User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Hey guys,

Do you see JetBlue offering a little more out CLT

MCO: AirTran is dropping that in August
FLL: it was doing fine until they change the time, that's my understanding

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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2878 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2550 times:

It's a possibility, although we'll get fierce competition from US. I love our CLT crew, great set of folks we have down there. You never know what dots will get connected as time marches along LOL!


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User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 1):

I love them to, I fly us air 2 times a month and never had a problem


User currently offlineBoeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

I doubt JetBlue would start flights to CLT unless US started a codeshare with them (either through a merger, or organically)

MCO and FLL I doubt it; a very large lesure destination and US has a much better FFlyer Base in CLT.

Now, once JetBlue gets their A321's I could certainly see them doing a trans-con flight from LGB or LAX. With the ability to offer a better product on this longer flight which people would be willing to spend more for.



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2878 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 3):
I doubt JetBlue would start flights to CLT unless US started a codeshare with them (either through a merger, or organically)

B6 has been flying to CLT since 2006 and hasn't had a codeshare or interline with US.



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User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6207 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

I honesltly think B6 has bigger to fish to fry, I honestly doubt we will be seeing transcons or Caribbean flights on B6 out of CLT. The bigger question is why isn't B6 in PHL yet? I know that is a US stronghold, however, it is a large city whihc could support a couple of dailies down to Florida.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

B6 tried to expand in CLT but US gave them a good fight. They had a FLL flight but US quickly changed their schedules and offered a flight to FLL at the same time and price as B6. B6 has waaay more things they can do out of other cities before they expand to CLT.

CLT-LGB? Not a chance.

If your gonna see any new service to the West Coast out of CLT, it'll be VX to LAX or SFO or UA to SFO.



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User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

Quoting chepos (Reply 5):
The bigger question is why isn't B6 in PHL yet? I know that is a US stronghold, however, it is a large city whihc could support a couple of dailies down to Florida.

Maybe, but US and WN/FL already do this, so they'd be fighting for mostly low yields.

PHL-JFK isn't really useful (DL only does it for European connections) and PHL-BOS, should they do it, is always a bloodbath that US has a good track record of winning. I don't see B6 in California-PHL either with UA, US and VX already doing so.


User currently offlinebos2laf From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1745 times:

Quoting PHLwok (Reply 7):
PHL-JFK isn't really useful (DL only does it for European connections) and PHL-BOS, should they do it, is always a bloodbath that US has a good track record of winning. I don't see B6 in California-PHL either with UA, US and VX already doing so.

I think B6 would be able to coexist with US on BOS-PHL. For one, while B6 would launch the route with low sale fares to start, they don't typically engage in the kind of cutthroat price wars that WN got themselves into in PHL. With 3 to 4 well-timed flights and more reasonable fares (but not the money-losing $49 fares WN was offering), and a superior inflight product to US, I think B6 could make a successful go of BOS-PHL. In my own opinion, its a matter of time given B6's focus on business travelers in BOS.

Look at DFW, nobody in a million years thought B6 would go into DFW. They had already expressed interest in DAL in the past. What brought them into DFW however, was that it was what business travelers in BOS wanted. If business travelers in BOS want PHL, then they'll probably get it.


User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

While I think it's possible, I guess part of the equation is whether B6 thinks it's worth opening a station on the merits of just one route, unless they do more than PHL-BOS. It's those other cities which are harder to determine. I would like to see the price competition on the route but US has always jealously defended this route, and pretty much just UA and B6 remain as the only carriers to have not tried it in recent years. I'm not sure the onboard service matters much on the 45 min or so average flight this normally is; US also flies it mainly with E90s, which are one of the more comfortable configs they have, especially in Y, and they fly it with effectively shuttle frequency.

User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

B6 is building a stong enough base of flyers in BOS that PHL is certainy possible. Us couldnt do anything to stop them or kick them off the route. The problem i bet as others said is where else would jetblue fly to from PHL? No other opportunity really exists and its probably not worth the expense of a whole station for a few embraer flights which dont really have much high profit potential. FLL and MCO yields are garbage, SJU has alot of US service and is lots of tourists, and LGB has no slots and they have much more pressing network needs than PHL for their LGB focus city

User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1375 times:

US offers close to hourly service on PHL-BOS. When WN was servicing the route, it offered flights at about every two hours, so US won on frequency. From the PHL side perspective, US also won against WN and likely other past competitors on FF rewards, and use of FF to places nonstop (from PHL) and being in a large allliance where partner has more nonstops out of EWR.

B6 would have to rely alot on the BOS area pax into PHL. If they wanted to try something less conventional to attract some from the PHL side as well: maybe they could offer 4 BOS-PHL (timed well and targeted more for the BOS area pax), and then ABE-BOS flight early AM and timed so that someone could commute to BOS. This is a joint airport approach.

Also added could be ABE-MCO, ABE-FLL. I think the Lehigh Valley is large enough to have daily nonstops to Orlando, Ft. Lauderdale and Boston, and ABE is closer to Berks Co. than PHL. And those in Montgomery Co. and NW NJ might use it. If both airports could work - great. However, if not, B6 could gauge which of the two (PHL or ABE) was not working and eventually consolidate at one of the two, but it'd still be better than a complete pull out.

[Edited 2012-05-04 07:51:33]

User currently offlinebos2laf From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 10):
The problem i bet as others said is where else would jetblue fly to from PHL? No other opportunity really exists and its probably not worth the expense of a whole station for a few embraer flights which dont really have much high profit potential.

Then what are BWI or DFW?


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