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787 Inbound To IAD And DCA

working2gether From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 83 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4689 times:

Looks like the 787 is on it's way to DC. Stopping in at IAD at 7:48 AM Monday, May 7, before heading over to DCA at around 11 AM.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE787

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Boeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4643 times:

Does anyone know why it was in TAR?

Work Hard, Fly Right.

working2gether From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4610 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 1):

It was there for the Dream Tour. Same reason for it coming to DC

beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

Quoting working2gether (Thread starter):
heading over to DCA at around 11 AM.

Could the 787 operate from DCA ?

What about LGA?

I remember when AA, EA and TW flew the DC-10-10, L1011 and A300B4's in to LGA

tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4277 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 3):

Could the 787 operate from DCA ?

Yes. Not a great match between the plane's and airport's capabilities though.

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 3):
What about LGA?

Yes. Same problem.

Tom.

sbon From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4250 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 1):
Does anyone know why it was in TAR?

Yeah... my first thought also. Any photos?

zrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 894 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3594 times:

Here you go.... An empty 787 would not have much trouble landing or taking off from DCA / LGA.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboeingcompany/7153000661/

zululima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 266 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3334 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 1):
Does anyone know why it was in TAR?

Alenia, a major 787 part supplier, is based near there.

Quoting working2gether (Reply 2):
It was there for the Dream Tour. Same reason for it coming to DC

Next stop DFW on Friday, then on to STL. Can't wait to see it!

That Finch Was Hard To Kill!

D L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10572 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Quoting zrb2 (Reply 6):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboei...0661/

The view at :45 is a picture perfect composition for a plane landing at DCA.

(But it would have been rejected by our screeners.

)

capitalflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3147 times:

787 was at DCA for beauty reasons only. Boeing has a major office (defense and government relations) in Crystal City overlooking runway 1/19. Widebodies are not allowed at DCA usually. Stop off at IAD was proving run for future ops by UA and possibly ANA as well I would imagine.

tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3105 times:

Quoting capitalflyer (Reply 9):
Stop off at IAD was proving run for future ops by UA and possibly ANA as well I would imagine.

You have to fly into DCA from an FAA-approved gateway airport. Taranto, Italy isn't one. IAD is the closest gateway airport to DCA.

Tom.

bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1628 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

Quoting capitalflyer (Reply 9):
787 was at DCA for beauty reasons only.

FINALLY, with all the speculation on the other thread about why the 787 visited DCA, the answer is:

"Several thousand people are expected to experience the 787 during the course of the airplane's visit, which will culminate Thursday night with the presentation of the Robert J. Collier Award . . ."

bt

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zululima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 266 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 10):
You have to fly into DCA from an FAA-approved gateway airport. Taranto, Italy isn't one. IAD is the closest gateway airport to DCA.

Wouldn't that only apply to scheduled service? Seems irrelevant where a publicity flight left the ground.

That Finch Was Hard To Kill!

simairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 829 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Quoting zululima (Reply 12):
Wouldn't that only apply to scheduled service? Seems irrelevant where a publicity flight left the ground.

That's exactly the point--this is treated as a general aviation flight (TSA-approved gateway, not FAA-approved gateway). See http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/tsnm/general_aviation/dca_access.shtm

[Edited 2012-05-08 09:57:15]

tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Quoting zululima (Reply 12):
Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 10):
You have to fly into DCA from an FAA-approved gateway airport. Taranto, Italy isn't one. IAD is the closest gateway airport to DCA.

Wouldn't that only apply to scheduled service?

It definitely applies to Part 91 operations (what the Dreamtour flies under). I'm not sure about pure GA.

Quoting zululima (Reply 12):
Seems irrelevant where a publicity flight left the ground.

Flying into DCA requires additional security measures prior to departure; only certain airports are approved by TSA to be able to carry out those measures.

Tom.

JoePatroni From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 14):

It definitely applies to Part 91 operations (what the Dreamtour flies under). I'm not sure about pure GA.

Quoting zululima (Reply 12):
Seems irrelevant where a publicity flight left the ground.

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 10):
You have to fly into DCA from an FAA-approved gateway airport. Taranto, Italy isn't one. IAD is the closest gateway airport to DCA

Flying into DCA requires additional security measures prior to departure; only certain airports are approved by TSA to be able to carry out those measures.

I think you're all making this more complicated than it really is. I'm sure the plane went to IAD first so the crew and whoever else was on the plane could clear customs. There's no formal customs facilities in DCA.

JP

[Edited 2012-05-08 10:53:27]

[Edited 2012-05-08 10:54:38]

Oh Stewardess, I speak Jive.

catiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2305 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Quoting capitalflyer (Reply 9):
Boeing has a major office (defense and government relations) in Crystal City overlooking runway 1/19.

Also in Rosslyn. In fact, Boeign Commercial is in Rosslyn as I recall.

Quoting capitalflyer (Reply 9):
Stop off at IAD was proving run for future ops by UA and possibly ANA as well I would imagine.

Quoting JoePatroni (Reply 15):
I think you're all making this more complicated than it really is. I'm sure the plane went to IAD first so the crew and whoever else was on the plane could clear customs. There's no formal customs facilities in DCA.

Exactly. They had to clear customs.

bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1628 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

"Customs & Immigration" . . . Don't even diplomats have to clear immigration (get their passport stamped)?

bt

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KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12043 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

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Quoting JoePatroni (Reply 15):
There's no formal customs facilities in DCA.

Anything can be arranged for the right price. Customs doesn't need a formal facility. It can be as simple as a Customs Crown Vic pulling up to the plane, agents going inside to check passengers and cargo. Then they leave. Seen it myself (not at DCA, however)

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tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting JoePatroni (Reply 15):
I think you're all making this more complicated than it really is

Nope. Read up on the DCA security plan: http://www.nbaa.org/ops/security/programs/dassp/
It's far more complex than you probably think.

Quoting JoePatroni (Reply 15):
I'm sure the plane went to IAD first so the crew and whoever else was on the plane could clear customs.

It had to go somewhere other than DCA; it's not legal to fly from Taranto direct to DCA. And you have to clear Customs at your first port-of-entry. If it were legal to fly Taranto-DCA, you could go directly into DCA from a customs/immigration standpoint.

Quoting JoePatroni (Reply 15):
There's no formal customs facilities in DCA.

Yes, there are. http://www.airnav.com/airport/KDCA. Look at the bottom of the "Airport Operations" section. Also, there are Air Canada jets all over the place at DCA, they all have to clear customs/immigration.

Tom.

catiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2305 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 19):
Also, there are Air Canada jets all over the place at DCA, they all have to clear customs/immigration.

Which they clear in Canada at the US Customs and Border Patrol preclearance stations in Canada.

FI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1059 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

The official tours are tomorrow afternoon. I got on Monday. She's a game changer!
There are two crew bunks, F,C,Y seats. The back galley is all fake though. They
have stickers on windows showing how much bigger the windows are than other
manufacturers. In F they have an overhead with 4 roll a boards in it. The window
switches all work, five clicks to a darkened window.

It's just amazing.

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zululima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 266 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Anyone know when it will depart DC or where to find schedule info for the flights?

That Finch Was Hard To Kill!

catiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2305 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting zululima (Reply 22):
Anyone know when it will depart DC or where to find schedule info for the flights?

According to the Boeing Twitter account, it's leaving late Friday morning (the 11th) for DFW. No firm time yet. They did tours Tuesday, Wednesday, and today on it, and then moved it from in front of the historic terminal over to the general aviation area for the Collier Trophy dinner this evening. I would imagine that the departure time depends on how late the dinner runs tonight to give the crews ample rest and time to configure the airplane for the flight.

SouthernDC9 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

So I was bored after work and decided to hit Gravelly Point for a while, driving by DCA I just happened to notice the 787 parked over there (I thought it had come and gone)... so on my way back home to Old Town I drove over by economy parking to get a better look. Amazing, though whatever dinner was going on had a lot of police all over the place and I was a bit paranoid about getting pulled over and ending up in Guantanamo. Will try to catch a glimpse of her leaving tomorrow. Very exciting.

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JETSTREAM63 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

787 just arrived at IAD

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