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Possible BA 734 Write Off At Genoa, Italy   
User currently offlineLGW340 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 315 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 29866 times:

Hiya,

My dad is captain on British Airways 737's and I went on a turnaround with him LGW-BRI yesterday and he told me about a BA 737-400 that may be written off at Genoa, Italy (GOA).

It was on the ramp and somebody hit it with a stairs vehicle. It ripped through the fuselage and you could see into the cabin. Apparently it went through the fuselage like a can opener!

A special team from Boeing was sent out to assess it and to repair the 737, they would have to build a special hangar around it at Genoa Airport so BA are currently deciding whether to declare it W/O given that they will be retired in 2014 anyway.

I THINK it was G-DOCU (can't be sure) but my dad said it was one of the better ones anyway.

Anyone have any more info on this?

Thanks

Chris Goodwin


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38 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineanstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5080 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 29728 times:

Happened on 30th April and has been at GOA since.

I believe they would need to set up a hangar around it to do the repairs - but I believe its fate is currently being decided. Ie it is not feasable to get it fixed at GOA and it can't be flown elsewhere.


User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 29475 times:

Very definitely DOCU. Wonder why it couldnt be flown even a short distance unpressurised, maybe could make damage worse I suppose. Write it off and get some funding for a new one !

User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3929 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 29428 times:

Quoting LGW340 (Thread starter):
It was on the ramp and somebody hit it with a stairs vehicle.

I have seen the picture. The gash is at elbow height about 4 ft long in front of the fwd cargo door,
It said it was a baggage truck, but your dads a captain so he must be right.
Its below floor level, so not much gabin to see.

Didn't know a Boeing team was there! BA usually does this themselves.


User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 29204 times:

from BA source

Quote:

30th April 2012 - G-DOCU Genoa Technical Issue.
Boeing 737-476 G-DOCU operated BA2688 London Gatwick - Genoa this morning however the return BA2689 was cancelled due to the aircraft being damaged by a ground vehicle.


User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 29022 times:

Its good news however for Titan Airways, who have despatched a 757 to LGW on hire to BA.

User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 28932 times:

...paid for by the ground companies insurance no doubt !

User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 28777 times:

Can't it be taken to the Piaggio facilities that are right at the airport?

User currently offlineJohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 27758 times:

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 4):
from BA source

Quote:

30th April 2012 - G-DOCU Genoa Technical Issue.
Boeing 737-476 G-DOCU operated BA2688 London Gatwick - Genoa this morning however the return BA2689 was cancelled due to the aircraft being damaged by a ground vehicle.

Too bad the "BA Source" got the aircraft technically wrong - it's a 737-436.


User currently offlineplanefixer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 27514 times:

Probably an innocent mistake as they also write the Qantas Source. QF = 737-476

User currently offlineirregking From Germany, joined Feb 2008, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 26523 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 3):
I have seen the picture.

any chance you can post it or a link to it?

Quoting LGW340 (Thread starter):
but my dad said it was one of the better ones anyway.

which are the better Gatwick 734's? DOCM-DOCZ? ie. the newer ones or is there another pattern?



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12318 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 25888 times:

Sad to hear; have flown on this aircraft very often, mostly on JER-LGW/vv; it's a twenty year old aircraft, so if the damage is too costly, they have take the decision to write it off.

User currently offlineLGW340 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 25817 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 3):
It said it was a baggage truck, but your dads a captain so he must be right.

It may very well have been a baggage truck, this is just what he has heard from other pilots

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 7):
Can't it be taken to the Piaggio facilities that are right at the airport?

Would have thought it would be too small for a 737-400?

Quoting irregking (Reply 10):
which are the better Gatwick 734's? DOCM-DOCZ? ie. the newer ones or is there another pattern?

Don't think there is any pattern to 'the better ones', just which ones are less worn. I've flown on nearly all of them and some of them really do feel like they are falling apart while others aren't as bad



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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3929 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 23355 times:

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 12):
It may very well have been a baggage truck

It was. The skin is punctured. The gash is 7 feet long.
A team of BA Engineers from LGW are there. Some temporary repair plates are being manufactured at LGW and the aircraft will be ferried to LHR for assessment/permanent repair.


User currently offlineJetset7e7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22496 times:

Anybody have any pictures of this?

Mark



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User currently offlineyodobashi From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2007, 227 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 21784 times:

Quoting LGW340 (Thread starter):
BA are currently deciding whether to declare it W/O

In all probability, BA probably won't have a say in this, it'll most likely be down to the insurers ....



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User currently offlinestarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1122 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 21634 times:

At this point the repair would have to be pretty cheap.

734's hull value is getting so low that they may be a W/O if they run out of fuel on the taxiway.



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 676 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20053 times:

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 12):
some of them really do feel like they are falling apart while others aren't as bad

Are they as bad as a Biman F.28...?


User currently offlineby188b From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 19393 times:

Pictures are on the flyertalk site.


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User currently offlinelitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 18031 times:
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It all depends on what's damaged.

If it's skin, well, airlines do skin jobs all the time.

If it's frame/electrical/other ... that's a whole different ballgame.


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7188 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15896 times:

Hard to believe that a 7 foot gash did not hit something expensive.

User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2487 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14514 times:

here you go, looks pretty bad if u ask me:


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/img20120504wa0001.jpg/


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7188 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14396 times:

Something seems to be hanging out half way along.

User currently offlinedalalways From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14250 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 21):
here you go, looks pretty bad if u ask me:

Someone is looking for a new job today...


User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12834 times:
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Nothing a little speed tape won't fix!

25 usafret : "When in doubt, duct it"
26 Gulfstream650 : Rest assured, the insurance adjusters on behalf of the underwriters will make the call on that even if that is what BA would like to do. I should add
27 Post contains images lightsaber : That depends on the structure. The unpressurized part isn't an issue (without pax, of course). I think you're referring to the 735. Are those rivits
28 heathrow : Such a shame. Have such great memories of these birds, especially DOCL and DOCF back when world tails were still around....
29 BA777 : How did the baggage truck get to that area forward of the door anyway?
30 lapper : Probably spinning round with some trailers in tow trying to get as close to the door as possible. That is a loooong gash as well...
31 na : Technically a repair should be no problem. But the 734 is a type currently being retired from the fleet, and this plane is already 19 1/2 years old,
32 Post contains links and images vhtje : Also some of the ex-QF/TN 737-376s fly in BA colours in South Africa for Comair View Large View MediumPhoto © Klaus Ecker And, in some weird reverse
33 Jetset7e7 : Wow thats some gash! Think someone would of have lost their job over this!! I remember flying this aircraft MAN-LGW. BA have always looked after thei
34 CrimsonNL : Any update on GDOCU's status? Rumour has it she's been ferried to London. Rgds Martijn
35 TupolevTu154 : The information I've read said that DOCU was ferried from Genoa to LHR in the afternoon of the 13th as BAW9279, "presumably" for repairs.
36 KC135TopBoom : Well the skin is very thin on airplanes. If the ribs are damaged/cut/broken, that brings up the structual integrity question. Repairing and replacing
37 Tristarsteve : Yes OCU is inside the BA TBA hangar at LHR. A Boeing repair team are making it as good a s new (well as good a sit was last month!)
38 Dalmd88 : That doesn't look that bad. Even with the frame damage, and there is. It looks like they hit it just below a previous repair. rip the old one off and
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