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DL Three Digit Employee Codes?  
User currently offlineBizJet From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 275 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4862 times:

I was recently reading some old issues of the "Delta Digest" employee magazine. I noticed that Delta employees are identified by a three digit code followed by their city code, e.g.:

953/ATL
250/ATL
610/ATL
252/ATL
125/ATL
283/ATG
779/ATG
799/ATG
602/ATG
654/CVG
610/MCO
610/JFK
654/DFW
125/SNA

What do these codes refer to? Presumably department and/or specific work location?

What is ATG? Does that refer to the headquarters complex? Or the TOC?

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User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3383 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

These are employee departments (or classifications).

125= Customer service (above wing)

250= Line maintenance

610= Inflight

Pretty sure that 654 is res, but I'll let someone else confirm that.

Not sure about the other ones.

ATG is Tech Ops (base maintenance)



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 1):
ATG is Tech Ops (base maintenance)

Any of the departments that say "ATG" after them are within the Atlanta General Office.



Dept. 654 is indeed Reservations. 120 is ramp/operations (below wing). 110 is station manager/director, depending on the size of the station.



Don't know if they still use 135, but it used to be the code for air cargo, systemwide. Then, when it became a separate division, instead of just a department, it became 807, particularly at the larger stations or hubs.



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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 1):
ATG is Tech Ops (base maintenance)

ATG is the GO or TOC.



yep.
User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3383 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3799 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 2):
Any of the departments that say "ATG" after them are within the Atlanta General Office.

Gracias.

Quoting mayor (Reply 2):
Don't know if they still use 135, but it used to be the code for air cargo, systemwide. Then, when it became a separate division, instead of just a department, it became 807, particularly at the larger stations or hubs.

I've only seen the 807 & 808 lately... No clue if 135 still exists/is used.



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User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

My brother worked at NW and my impression was from him, they purposely are reworking the numbers system at DL to mask who came from where. Due to the long divide at NW v Republic. (and now DL)


I understand we may someday have the same at UACO, but for now my vintage CO number works just fine. I believe I may have a new "U" number someplace, but I have no idea. (nor care)


Frankly I feel this is all window dressing. I will proudly tell any and everyone I am from CO,and I ALWAYS will. Likewise I would respect the same in return from UA. If nothing else it helps us understand where we each came from. Lets not ignore that past, but build on it.


User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3383 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 5):
My brother worked at NW and my impression was from him, they purposely are reworking the numbers system at DL to mask who came from where. Due to the long divide at NW v Republic. (and now DL)

Employee numbers themselves were issued quite awhile ago, for the exact reason(s) you mentioned.

The 3 digit numbers the OP was asking about relate to the divison (or job classification) any given employee works in.



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User currently onlinecubastar From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 407 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

In earlier times, Flight Operations (Pilot) was given the three digit code of 030 I believe

User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

Quoting cubastar (Reply 7):
In earlier times, Flight Operations (Pilot) was given the three digit code of 030 I believe

I believe it still is. The three letter codes make it easier for mail, comat, etc. to be routed to the proper department. I delivered comat from air cargo to the various departments at SLC for a couple of years and it makes it much easier.



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1578 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1783 times:

With the merger all PMDL and PMNW employees were issued new employee numbers, with some extra zeros as potential "placeholders" that may be used at some time in the future to designate base assignments, status or whatever the companay decides to use them for. No one can tell who came from where by their employee number.


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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1695 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 9):
With the merger all PMDL and PMNW employees were issued new employee numbers, with some extra zeros as potential "placeholders" that may be used at some time in the future to designate base assignments, status or whatever the companay decides to use them for. No one can tell who came from where by their employee number.

I believe the OP mistook the department numbers for employee numbers. I believe they may have increased the number of digits in the employee numbers because of the increase in employees. Sometime in the 70s, they did the same thing and added two or three zeroes to the end of my number.



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User currently offlineih8b6 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 208 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 9):
With the merger all PMDL and PMNW employees were issued new employee numbers, with some extra zeros as potential "placeholders" that may be used at some time in the future to designate base assignments, status or whatever the companay decides to use them for. No one can tell who came from where by their employee number

No, All PMDL people were not issued new employee numbers .......

I wish I knew where people come up with things and how crap gets started. The extra zeros "to designate base assignments, status or whatever the company decides to use them for" phenomena was started well before the merger - like 4 - 6 years before the merger. PMDL peeps never got new employee numbers. They just got a 0 on the front and two on the back (technically 'new' I suppose) and that was 4-6 years before the merger (or more) when more and more HR functions become automated. It wasn't really "here's your new number", it was "here is this fancy new pass card with a PPR - primary pass rider - number on it with a 0 in front of your employee number and 00 after it, use it when you nonrev." Then, extranet came along and they said "use it to log in there too".

And so it goes......



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User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 801 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Quoting ih8b6 (Reply 11):
Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 9):
With the merger all PMDL and PMNW employees were issued new employee numbers, with some extra zeros as potential "placeholders" that may be used at some time in the future to designate base assignments, status or whatever the companay decides to use them for. No one can tell who came from where by their employee number

No, All PMDL people were not issued new employee numbers .......

Right, and the PPR isn't really an employee number - one's employee number is usually the PPR minus leading zero(s) and the last two zeros at the end, which for DLX employees, contains their "airline code".

But it is indeed confusing for DL employees, because when asked for their "employee number", one may have to enter their actual employee number or their PPR (e.g. ordering uniforms).


User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1578 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting ih8b6 (Reply 11):
Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 9):
With the merger all PMDL and PMNW employees were issued new employee numbers, with some extra zeros as potential "placeholders" that may be used at some time in the future to designate base assignments, status or whatever the companay decides to use them for. No one can tell who came from where by their employee number

No, All PMDL people were not issued new employee numbers .......

I wish I knew where people come up with things and how crap gets started. The extra zeros "to designate base assignments, status or whatever the company decides to use them for" phenomena was started well before the merger - like 4 - 6 years before the merger. PMDL peeps never got new employee numbers. They just got a 0 on the front and two on the back (technically 'new' I suppose) and that was 4-6 years before the merger (or more) when more and more HR functions become automated. It wasn't really "here's your new number", it was "here is this fancy new pass card with a PPR - primary pass rider - number on it with a 0 in front of your employee number and 00 after it, use it when you nonrev." Then, extranet came along and they said "use it to log in there too".

And so it goes......

It is true--to access my email I just use the "middle" six digits. But I have to tell you--I went from a five-digit to a six-digit to a NINE digit number--that took a while to remember! And just for the record, I wish DL would stop using acronyms like "PPR." There are far too many to remember. New Rule---if you want to introduce a new acronym you have to retire two!



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User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3383 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

Quoting ih8b6 (Reply 11):
No, All PMDL people were not issued new employee numbers .......

I wish I knew where people come up with things and how crap gets started.

In the case of new numbers for both sides, look no further than the company itself. We were told this multiple times during the early stages of the merger.



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User currently offlinestrfyr51 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 1090 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1228 times:
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The codes are department and routing cldes United uses te same types of codes and they're for manpower and profit center accounting as each dividion generates and reports thir business forecast for the coming year and planned expenditures for the previous year My department : aircraft maintenence Div # 86, department 8651 Job grade 80. job code 2842. then employeee Number U0xxxxx. (all numbers) All the manpowert expenditures for my dept and delineated down to the dollar including vacation, sick time, Overtime Ets, All companies do about the same thing even though the numbers including THESE might be diferent. We al so and Delta alo has SITA addressed to communicateall over the system
Line Maintenece XXXMM, (San Francisco = SFOMMUA) the Airline has the designators for the routing they Choose.
At Newark UA's Mechanics are EWRMM, while CO's are EWRMX whether that changes in the future I have no Idea.,
CO's Maint control answers to Tech OPS Maint. Control.(TOMC) While the UAL Guys will still answer to System Aircraft Maint. control (SAMC) or the previous Designation Line Maintenence SFOLM, Now OPBLM or just about anything..


User currently offlineih8b6 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 208 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1171 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 13):
And just for the record, I wish DL would stop using acronyms like "PPR." There are far too many to remember. New Rule---if you want to introduce a new acronym you have to retire two!

I agree with that...and they come out of no where with no warning too. Best new rule I ever heard of!  



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 13):
It is true--to access my email I just use the "middle" six digits. But I have to tell you--I went from a five-digit to a six-digit to a NINE digit number--that took a while to remember! And just for the record, I wish DL would stop using acronyms like "PPR." There are far too many to remember. New Rule---if you want to introduce a new acronym you have to retire two!

Funny.........the acronym "PPR" was used for quite a few years before the merger and we never had a problem with it.  



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