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IAG Announce Q1 Loss  
User currently onlineGSTBA From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 399 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4418 times:

IAG's Willie Walsh today announced

"IAG Total revenue in the quarter was up 7.8 per cent with passenger unit revenue up 8.5 per cent based on a capacity increase of 0.6 per cent. Despite this, we've made an operating loss of €249 million before exceptional items. This is mainly due to a €281 million, 24.9 per cent rise in fuel costs, driven by higher prices, the reduced impact of hedging and emissions charges. The Iberia pilots' strike cost €25 million this quarter.
"Iberia's overall operating loss for the quarter was €170 million (2011: €100 million operating loss) and British Airways' operating loss was £62 million before exceptional items (2011: £5 million operating loss). Iberia's performance reflects the weakness of the Spanish domestic market and industrial action by pilots opposed to actions by Iberia's management to improve the airline's efficiencies. For British Airways, although the London market and demand for transatlantic travel remains strong, its performance has been affected by rising fuel costs".

According to the article IAG have received been contacted by airports across the UK and beyond about starting services and, subject to reaching satisfactory agreement with them, we plan to also launch flights from Heathrow to Leeds-Bradford, Rotterdam and Zagreb and increase frequencies to existing key destinations. Consultation continues with bmi mainlinestaff and their trade unions about plans to integrate the business into British Airways.

The full article on the Q1 results can be found here:

http://www.iairgroup.com/phoenix.zht...-newsArticle&ID=1695000&highlight=

[Edited 2012-05-11 00:02:09]

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User currently onlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4946 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4235 times:

Well that is what strikes do to airlines. Speaking solely from an American's standpoint, I do believe that it did nothing but hurt IAG and haven't we seen this before.....

I'm sure (unrelated to the above) if IAG makes some cost cutting efforts (specifically when the 787 gets delivered) i'm sure something can be done to deal the price of fuel. We're gonna see a lot of airlines with a loss this quarter, IMO.


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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

Speaking of fuel, why don't airlines tug planes to the runway instead of using the engines?


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User currently offlineDano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4100 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 2):
Speaking of fuel, why don't airlines tug planes to the runway instead of using the engines?

Well one reason...

The IAE V2500 engine on the Airbus, needs a 5 minute warm up time.

Tug to the runway, then a 5/10 minute hold assuming you don't start both engines at the same time.

Don't know if other engines have warm up times, or just turn and burn


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User currently offlinevegetables2001 From UK - England, joined Mar 2012, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4061 times:

Oh dear what a shame!


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User currently offlinePezySPU From Croatia, joined Dec 2011, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3936 times:

Never would've guessed ZAG was so high on IAG's wishlist.

User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 1906 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3871 times:

If BA and IB had merged now instead of 2 years ago, I imagine the percentages given to shareholders in the 2 original airlines would have been a bit different, 2 or 3 years ago IB was on a high, with its strong routes to Latin America, while BA was struggling.

Seems strange to launch flights to Zagreb, when they only cancelled flights to Belgrade last year. Is Croatia that much more lucrative than Serbia?


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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3738 times:

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 6):
Is Croatia that much more lucrative than Serbia?

I would imagine that there's a lot more tourism to Croatia than Serbia.

Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 3):
Well one reason...

The IAE V2500 engine on the Airbus, needs a 5 minute warm up time.

Can't planes be tugged while the engines are warming up?


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User currently offlinePezySPU From Croatia, joined Dec 2011, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3628 times:

Here's something from Twitter today:

@ABDunn: #IAG Willie Walsh during Q1 call on changing market - our interest in TAP is significantly less today than it would have been 12 months ago

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 7):
Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 6): Is Croatia that much more lucrative than Serbia?

I would imagine that there's a lot more tourism to Croatia than Serbia.

There is, but not really in ZAG. BA already operates to DBV, which is a tourist hot-spot especially in summer, but BA keeps it as an all year round service.

[Edited 2012-05-11 03:47:34]

User currently offlineanstar From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 4844 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Quoting PezySPU (Reply 8):
@ABDunn: #IAG Willie Walsh during Q1 call on changing market - our interest in TAP is significantly less today than it would have been 12 months ago

Totally. The have their hands full at Iberia and getting BMI integrated into BA.... It would not be a good move to take on another "project" whilst they are busy with these. Lufthansa tried and it too found itself with too many.

User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 2):
Speaking of fuel, why don't airlines tug planes to the runway instead of using the engines?

In addition to the engine warm up issues previously mentioned, airlines also would have to buy a lot more tugs and hire a lot more people if they want to do that. In the end it would probably just be a wash while resulting in slower operations.

User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Quoting PezySPU (Reply 8):
@ABDunn: #IAG Willie Walsh during Q1 call on changing market - our interest in TAP is significantly less today than it would have been 12 months ago

I just hope that's some strategic FUD he's throwing out there.

Quoting anstar (Reply 9):
getting BMI integrated into BA

How hard can it really be to integrate one British carrier into another? It's not like BD will be operated as an independent entity like IB. I see BD as a non issue.


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User currently offlineheebeegb From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Virgin tried towing aircraft to the runway in the past

See the discussion about it here

Virgin Abandons Plans To Tow Aircraft To Runway (by BCAL Mar 12 2008 in Civil Aviation)

User currently offlineby738 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Sep 2000, 1977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

Cant see any of those routes being maintained for the long term. LBA particularly is an oddity.

User currently onlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3689 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 11):
How hard can it really be to integrate one British carrier into another? It's not like BD will be operated as an independent entity like IB. I see BD as a non issue.

Its not hard, just a lot of work.
All the pilots and cabin crew need retraining.
All the aircraft need modification, painting, and conversion to the BA AOC.
This will all be complete by Christmas.
A BMI A319 may look like a BA A319, but inside they are different. BMI have more seats, less toilets, different cabin crew seats, different galleys, different emergency equipment, different pax seats etc etc.
The plan is that by Xmas any BA crew can operate any aircraft.
Lots to do.

By the way the first few BMI aircraft will emerge in the Olympic Dove livery.

User currently offlineanstar From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 4844 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 11):

How hard can it really be to integrate one British carrier into another? It's not like BD will be operated as an independent entity like IB. I see BD as a non issue.

Ok it might not be hard but it will take alot of managements time and focus.

User currently onlinetimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1237 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

How does this stack up against Air France-KLM and Lufthansa's 1st Quarters?


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User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

nice little video on BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18033746


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User currently offlinekdhurst380 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 7):
Can't planes be tugged while the engines are warming up?

Considering the engine is running during the warm up phase, it would defeat the object. You only need a little bit of breakaway thrust to get a small Airbus moving then they keep going on idle with ease.

Most airlines nowadays at least shut an engine down after landing, easyJet have recently started an initiative of single engine taxi both before and after flight.

[Edited 2012-05-11 14:56:01]

User currently offlineSuperCaravelle From Netherlands, joined Jan 2012, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

Quoting timboflier215 (Reply 16):
How does this stack up against Air France-KLM and Lufthansa's 1st Quarters?

In terms of numbers, similar, size considered (LH something like 300 million, AF-KL 300something million).

The biggest part of the loss can be attributed to IB though. I know the Spanish economy has collapsed as well, but as of now IB hasn't benefited from the merger yet.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 3896 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1029 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 2):
Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 7):
Quoting Polot (Reply 10):

You would be stuck with costs of running more tugs, fuel, maintenance and staff... Really don't see how this concept would work and let's not forget VS have trialed the same concept...

There is a thread discussing Alitalia investing in a new device which allows aircraft to taxi engineless utulizing APU power... Includes a youtube video of a LH A320 under going trials in FRA...

EK413


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