fatflyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 17 Posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6516 times:
Reports are leaking of more Hawaii route announcements by Allegiant next week.
First rumor report is from this news blogger (who used to be a print newspaper reporter/editor) saying SMX will supposedly get Hawaii flights. He says SMX has scheduled a news conference for Tuesday May 15 to announce the service. http://www.sierra2thesea.com/Site/Bl.../Entries/2012/5/11_Coast_Beat.html
Flights at SMX would draw both passengers from both the Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo areas.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
Since Allegiant already flies from EUG to LAS, LAX, AZA and OAK I wonder if it would take us very long to decide what other destination they might add.....
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
whatusaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 595 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5573 times:
...and we all thought SCK would be among the first. With the new Santa Maria and Eugene, they'll have 2 of the aircraft in service? That second would only be flying a couple days a week. I wonder if LAS picks up a 4th or FAT a 2nd before we see SCK added? You'd think that the new markets will be greeted with outbounds on Saturday or Sunday, not mid-week.
PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4985 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4793 times:
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3): Since Allegiant already flies from EUG to LAS, LAX, AZA and OAK I wonder if it would take us very long to decide what other destination they might add.....
I have a feeling that AZA will have a route to Hawaii sooner or later.
PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4985 posts, RR: 14 Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4101 times:
Quoting Polot (Reply 8): If you are planning on having the passengers swim part of the distance, sure. 4360nm is too far for any 757 with any meaningful payload in it.
Are they allowed putting extra tanks in the thing? What's the farthest it can travel?
SonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1178 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3714 times:
sCO had routes up to around 3,900 miles on their TATL routes such as EWR to TGL. There won't be service from GRR, sorry folks.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3149 times:
Quoting ytib (Reply 13): Just heard on a Denver news channel this morning flights from Ft Collins/Loveland to Hawaii will be possible with a stop in Vegas.
I saw that mentioned online and wondered about it too until I read the article. I think it will mislead many people until they read the fine print.
Nothing more than a passenger being able to buy 2 tickets and self connect at LAS, from the article: "Dovetailing the arrival times in Las Vegas from Loveland with the departures to Honolulu, and then vice versa, will take some tinkering time on the airline website, allegiantair.com. For travelers who have the time, and don't mind a layover in Las Vegas for a day or more, the option is attractive. "
Looking at flight times, passengers have to overnight in LAS both directions to/from FNL.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2167 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2858 times:
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3): Looks like the media is going to let us know a lot before Tuesday.
Now reports say EUG will have a press conference Tuesday.
This was my number one choice for G4 service to Hawaii when they started rumbling about flying to Hawaii. There was a small article in the Bend Bulletin 6 months or so ago, and a reporter had been interviewing a G4 representative about the success of flights into Oregon in general. When asked about their intentions with the Hawaii market, the G4 rep said that G4 wanted to serve currently unserved markets, and made reference to EUG-HNL. I am glad to see this, I bet it will be big.
Next Flights: AS PDX-SEA-KOA on DH4/738 in F, HA KOA-OGG on 717 in Y, AS OGG-PDX on 738 in F
At 159 USD one-way I don't see why anyone would pick allegiant over any of the mainline carriers, other than if they live right next door to the airport.
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2167 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2607 times:
Wow, G4's first OGG route announced, guess they didn't beat AS to HNL from BLI, but they did to OGG, great going G4.
I'm surprised EUG starts with just once a week service, I was hoping for two x weekly. Can't wait to see that 757 at Mahlon Sweet.
Next Flights: AS PDX-SEA-KOA on DH4/738 in F, HA KOA-OGG on 717 in Y, AS OGG-PDX on 738 in F
HPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3665 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2581 times:
Quoting runway23 (Reply 18): At 159 USD one-way I don't see why anyone would pick allegiant over any of the mainline carriers, other than if they live right next door to the airport.
First of all, G4 is in fact targeting the local passengers at these small airports - they are not banking on pulling any large number away from the big airport down the road.
Second, $159 one-way is an outstanding price so I'm not sure what you are implying. I used the EUG flight as an example - flying another carrier from EUG on the same date is minimum well over $700 rt, and from PDX still twice the price of G4, plus the drive time, gas and parking fees.
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2167 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2562 times:
Quoting HPRamper (Reply 20): Second, $159 one-way is an outstanding price so I'm not sure what you are implying. I used the EUG flight as an example - flying another carrier from EUG on the same date is minimum well over $700 rt, and from PDX still twice the price of G4, plus the drive time, gas and parking fees
I see AS air deals on their website from BLI, SEA & PDX at times for $358.00 r/t, but only the off season, and not too often. Most of the HA & AS seats sell via Packagers like All About Travel, you can not get out of EUG for these same fares though, I expect G4's fares are a good bargain if they stay in that ballpark.
Next Flights: AS PDX-SEA-KOA on DH4/738 in F, HA KOA-OGG on 717 in Y, AS OGG-PDX on 738 in F
slcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2456 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2547 times:
Great to see more. Let's see how they do.
They have a long time to book these flights. In the smaller communities and media markets word will travel fast of a flight to Hawaii that's "cheap" and local as it is a big deal for these airports. BLI is interesting to see how Alaska and allegiant do side by side. Heck cities like MSY, IND, STL, MCI can't even get a flight as impressive as this to a cool long distance spot. "cheap" flights to Hawaii will have people talking and going to look at prices and packages especially when it's the nice close local airport with free or cheaper parking and easier to get a whole family thru airport
Personally I hope COS happens. It's high altitude but very long runways since it's an air force Base and it's cooler than denver.
It's great to see allegiant flying 757s out of smaller airports to Hawaii I am really hoping these do well
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2167 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2530 times:
G4 has tickets on sale for dates until Nov 13th, so I can't even buy a EUG-HNL r/t. I looked and the inaugrual flight is 219.00 o/w not 179.00, how can that be when they have not even sold tickets for these flights yet?
Next Flights: AS PDX-SEA-KOA on DH4/738 in F, HA KOA-OGG on 717 in Y, AS OGG-PDX on 738 in F
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
25 alexinwa: Good for BLI........4x weekly to the islands should be a good measurement of the market. Interested to see how all the new service at BLI will pan out
26 MLI717fan: OGG is "big spot" on their route map... Expect more to come! http://www.allegiantair.com/aaRouteMapStatic.php
27 FATFlyer: Like you, I expect to see more Maui flights announced in coming months. With FAT-HNL selling well and that route's increasing frequency I'm looking f
28 whatusaid: I'm asking, why a 2X to HNL and not 1X to HNL and 1X to OGG out of FAT??? What does G4 know that we don't? Maybe those $479 OW fares are representati
29 United727: I not only hope, but expect G4 to serve RFD to HNL in the near future. The airport has been going after regular service to the islands for several yea
30 FATFlyer: As I said in a post a few days ago: But, Allegiant does have its future eye on flights to some of the Caribbean islands and Mexico resorts. Those are
31 MLI717fan: Great circle mapper puts RFD-HNL at 4181 miles, the 757 has a fully loaded range of ~3900 miles. Unless G4 decides to get a 3rd fleet type, I don't s
32 FATFlyer: Hawaii traffic from Fresno is split pretty evenly between Oahu and Maui. Only about 1,000 more tourists from the Fresno MSA end up on Oahu vs Maui. 2
33 MLI717fan: I could see that. Not only that, but 2x HNL allows more flexibility for passengers. They can go for a few days, a week, a week and a few days... etc.
34 smoot4208: I'm surprised Medford didn't get service to HNL
35 HPRamper: I don't know...Medford/Ashland/G Pass is a lot smaller metro than Eugene, and in fact probably loses some potential pax to the new EUG flight (Rosebu
36 FATFlyer: It looks like it is still scheduled as LAS-HNL-FAT-HNL-LAS since pilots are coming out of LAS.
37 slcdeltarumd11: This is all very exciting. Can't wait to see what else they announce. I wonder if this will accelerate southwest to announce hawaii. They have so much
38 PHX787: Aaaannd I'm just sittin' here waiting impatiently for the AZA route to Hawaii
39 United727: Who says the service needs to be NS!?!? I agree, but see remark above! RFD-LAS-HNL(OGG)
40 RWA380: Allegiant. On their website they state "all Allegiant flights are non-stop. Allegiant does not offer one stop, or connecting flights"
41 MLI717fan: I the best hope for HNL service from RFD is via F9 and probably two connections (since I don't think their aircraft have the legs for DEN-HNL/OGG). A
42 RWA380: Yes, I do think with G4's 1-2x weekly services on the currently announced routes, those 6 757's could do quite a bit of Hawaii flying. IMO, KOA and L
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I am really hoping these do well
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