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More New G4 Hawaii Routes Next Week  
User currently offlinefatflyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 7557 times:

Reports are leaking of more Hawaii route announcements by Allegiant next week.

First rumor report is from this news blogger (who used to be a print newspaper reporter/editor) saying SMX will supposedly get Hawaii flights. He says SMX has scheduled a news conference for Tuesday May 15 to announce the service.
http://www.sierra2thesea.com/Site/Bl.../Entries/2012/5/11_Coast_Beat.html
Flights at SMX would draw both passengers from both the Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo areas.


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User currently onlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6141 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7467 times:

Didn't see that coming


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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7378 times:

SMX been rumored for the last couple of years.

Santa Barbara County (where Santa Maria is located) is a large unserved source of Hawaii tourist traffic. But the runway at SBA is only about 6000 ft.

Allegiant currently operates SMX to Vegas. But additionally SMX just completed a runway extension to 8000 ft.



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7140 times:

Looks like the media is going to let us know a lot before Tuesday.

Now reports say EUG will have a press conference Tuesday.
http://www.kval.com/news/business/Al...w-route-from-Eugene-151188555.html

Since Allegiant already flies from EUG to LAS, LAX, AZA and OAK I wonder if it would take us very long to decide what other destination they might add.....        



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User currently offlinewhatusaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6614 times:

...and we all thought SCK would be among the first. With the new Santa Maria and Eugene, they'll have 2 of the aircraft in service? That second would only be flying a couple days a week. I wonder if LAS picks up a 4th or FAT a 2nd before we see SCK added? You'd think that the new markets will be greeted with outbounds on Saturday or Sunday, not mid-week.

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7560 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5834 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3):
Since Allegiant already flies from EUG to LAS, LAX, AZA and OAK I wonder if it would take us very long to decide what other destination they might add.....

I have a feeling that AZA will have a route to Hawaii sooner or later.



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlineMichiganatc From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5409 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
I have a feeling that AZA will have a route to Hawaii sooner or later.

I have a very strong feeling that it's going to be GRR...just sayin'

...oh, wait, that was in my dreams. (Would require a fuel stop anyways)


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7560 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5329 times:

Quoting Michiganatc (Reply 6):
I have a very strong feeling that it's going to be GRR...just sayin'

...oh, wait, that was in my dreams. (Would require a fuel stop anyways)

I don't know, I think the 757 can push it
http://i48.tinypic.com/5x8so7.gif
4360 Miles



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently onlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2185 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5300 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):
I don't know, I think the 757 can push it

If you are planning on having the passengers swim part of the distance, sure. 4360nm is too far for any 757 with any meaningful payload in it.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7560 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5142 times:

Quoting Polot (Reply 8):
If you are planning on having the passengers swim part of the distance, sure. 4360nm is too far for any 757 with any meaningful payload in it.

Are they allowed putting extra tanks in the thing? What's the farthest it can travel?



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4785 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):
Quoting Michiganatc (Reply 6):
I have a very strong feeling that it's going to be GRR...just sayin'

...oh, wait, that was in my dreams. (Would require a fuel stop anyways)

I don't know, I think the 757 can push it

Allegiant has said several times its 757s on Hawaii routes will be used no further east than Colorado.



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User currently offlineSonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4755 times:
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sCO had routes up to around 3,900 miles on their TATL routes such as EWR to TGL. There won't be service from GRR, sorry folks.

User currently offlinealexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

Waiting for BLI to be announced........757's have been almost a daily visitor.


You mad Bro???
User currently offlineytib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

Just heard on a Denver news channel this morning flights from Ft Collins/Loveland to Hawaii will be possible with a stop in Vegas.

Never mind, bad reporting: http://www.reporterherald.com/news/l...offer-hawaii-flights-from-loveland

[Edited 2012-05-14 05:45:29]

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

Quoting ytib (Reply 13):
Just heard on a Denver news channel this morning flights from Ft Collins/Loveland to Hawaii will be possible with a stop in Vegas.

Never mind, bad reporting: http://www.reporterherald.com/news/l...eland

I saw that mentioned online and wondered about it too until I read the article. I think it will mislead many people until they read the fine print.

Nothing more than a passenger being able to buy 2 tickets and self connect at LAS, from the article:
"Dovetailing the arrival times in Las Vegas from Loveland with the departures to Honolulu, and then vice versa, will take some tinkering time on the airline website, allegiantair.com. For travelers who have the time, and don't mind a layover in Las Vegas for a day or more, the option is attractive. "

Looking at flight times, passengers have to overnight in LAS both directions to/from FNL.



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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4142 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 14):
Looking at flight times, passengers have to overnight in LAS both directions to/from FNL.

Allegiant must be offering rock-bottom fares to justify *not* driving the short distance to DEN, and having to overnight in LAS.


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3256 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3):
Looks like the media is going to let us know a lot before Tuesday.

Now reports say EUG will have a press conference Tuesday.

This was my number one choice for G4 service to Hawaii when they started rumbling about flying to Hawaii. There was a small article in the Bend Bulletin 6 months or so ago, and a reporter had been interviewing a G4 representative about the success of flights into Oregon in general. When asked about their intentions with the Hawaii market, the G4 rep said that G4 wanted to serve currently unserved markets, and made reference to EUG-HNL. I am glad to see this, I bet it will be big.



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User currently offlineBA744PHX From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

And the new routes are

BLI-HNL begins November 15, 2 weekly
BLI-OGG begins November 14, 2 weekly
EUG-HNL begins November 17, 1 weekly
SMX-HNL begins November 17, 1x weekly
SCK-HNL begins November 17, 1x weekly

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/allegi...hts-mainland-hawaii-084500960.html


User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

Quoting BA744PHX (Reply 17):
And the new routes are

BLI-HNL begins November 15, 2 weekly
BLI-OGG begins November 14, 2 weekly
EUG-HNL begins November 17, 1 weekly
SMX-HNL begins November 17, 1x weekly
SCK-HNL begins November 17, 1x weekly

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/allegi....html

At 159 USD one-way I don't see why anyone would pick allegiant over any of the mainline carriers, other than if they live right next door to the airport.


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3256 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Wow, G4's first OGG route announced, guess they didn't beat AS to HNL from BLI, but they did to OGG, great going G4.
I'm surprised EUG starts with just once a week service, I was hoping for two x weekly. Can't wait to see that 757 at Mahlon Sweet.



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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

Quoting runway23 (Reply 18):
At 159 USD one-way I don't see why anyone would pick allegiant over any of the mainline carriers, other than if they live right next door to the airport.

First of all, G4 is in fact targeting the local passengers at these small airports - they are not banking on pulling any large number away from the big airport down the road.

Second, $159 one-way is an outstanding price so I'm not sure what you are implying. I used the EUG flight as an example - flying another carrier from EUG on the same date is minimum well over $700 rt, and from PDX still twice the price of G4, plus the drive time, gas and parking fees.


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3256 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3603 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 20):
Second, $159 one-way is an outstanding price so I'm not sure what you are implying. I used the EUG flight as an example - flying another carrier from EUG on the same date is minimum well over $700 rt, and from PDX still twice the price of G4, plus the drive time, gas and parking fees

I see AS air deals on their website from BLI, SEA & PDX at times for $358.00 r/t, but only the off season, and not too often. Most of the HA & AS seats sell via Packagers like All About Travel, you can not get out of EUG for these same fares though, I expect G4's fares are a good bargain if they stay in that ballpark.



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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

Great to see more. Let's see how they do.

They have a long time to book these flights. In the smaller communities and media markets word will travel fast of a flight to Hawaii that's "cheap" and local as it is a big deal for these airports. BLI is interesting to see how Alaska and allegiant do side by side. Heck cities like MSY, IND, STL, MCI can't even get a flight as impressive as this to a cool long distance spot. "cheap" flights to Hawaii will have people talking and going to look at prices and packages especially when it's the nice close local airport with free or cheaper parking and easier to get a whole family thru airport

Personally I hope COS happens. It's high altitude but very long runways since it's an air force Base and it's cooler than denver.

It's great to see allegiant flying 757s out of smaller airports to Hawaii   I am really hoping these do well


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3256 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

G4 has tickets on sale for dates until Nov 13th, so I can't even buy a EUG-HNL r/t. I looked and the inaugrual flight is 219.00 o/w not 179.00, how can that be when they have not even sold tickets for these flights yet?


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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3465 times:

Not in this release is a frequency increase due to high demand:
FAT-HNL goes to 2X per week. (Fri/Sun arrivals; Sat/Mon departures starting in Nov)

http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/05/14/...o-ticket-sales-spur-allegiant.html

[Edited 2012-05-15 07:35:37]


"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
25 alexinwa : Good for BLI........4x weekly to the islands should be a good measurement of the market. Interested to see how all the new service at BLI will pan out
26 Post contains links MLI717fan : OGG is "big spot" on their route map... Expect more to come! http://www.allegiantair.com/aaRouteMapStatic.php
27 Post contains images FATFlyer : Like you, I expect to see more Maui flights announced in coming months. With FAT-HNL selling well and that route's increasing frequency I'm looking f
28 whatusaid : I'm asking, why a 2X to HNL and not 1X to HNL and 1X to OGG out of FAT??? What does G4 know that we don't? Maybe those $479 OW fares are representati
29 United727 : I not only hope, but expect G4 to serve RFD to HNL in the near future. The airport has been going after regular service to the islands for several yea
30 FATFlyer : As I said in a post a few days ago: But, Allegiant does have its future eye on flights to some of the Caribbean islands and Mexico resorts. Those are
31 MLI717fan : Great circle mapper puts RFD-HNL at 4181 miles, the 757 has a fully loaded range of ~3900 miles. Unless G4 decides to get a 3rd fleet type, I don't s
32 Post contains links and images FATFlyer : Hawaii traffic from Fresno is split pretty evenly between Oahu and Maui. Only about 1,000 more tourists from the Fresno MSA end up on Oahu vs Maui. 2
33 MLI717fan : I could see that. Not only that, but 2x HNL allows more flexibility for passengers. They can go for a few days, a week, a week and a few days... etc.
34 smoot4208 : I'm surprised Medford didn't get service to HNL
35 HPRamper : I don't know...Medford/Ashland/G Pass is a lot smaller metro than Eugene, and in fact probably loses some potential pax to the new EUG flight (Rosebu
36 FATFlyer : It looks like it is still scheduled as LAS-HNL-FAT-HNL-LAS since pilots are coming out of LAS.
37 slcdeltarumd11 : This is all very exciting. Can't wait to see what else they announce. I wonder if this will accelerate southwest to announce hawaii. They have so much
38 Post contains images PHX787 : Aaaannd I'm just sittin' here waiting impatiently for the AZA route to Hawaii
39 United727 : Who says the service needs to be NS!?!? I agree, but see remark above! RFD-LAS-HNL(OGG)
40 RWA380 : Allegiant. On their website they state "all Allegiant flights are non-stop. Allegiant does not offer one stop, or connecting flights"
41 MLI717fan : I the best hope for HNL service from RFD is via F9 and probably two connections (since I don't think their aircraft have the legs for DEN-HNL/OGG). A
42 RWA380 : Yes, I do think with G4's 1-2x weekly services on the currently announced routes, those 6 757's could do quite a bit of Hawaii flying. IMO, KOA and L
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