TWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 1761 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 19571 times:
When is UA supposed to receive their first 787s? I know they will be flow domestically for familiarization purposes, but what will be their first international routes? Will IAH-AKL start when the 787s go international?
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 19202 times:
It actually wasn't. They did dress that one up with United decals for the ceremony. Its a random bit of trivia that nobody would know.
There are 5 United 787s completed. What the hell goes on between completing and delivering a 787 these days I have absolutely no understanding of. They are going to get all 5 of them this year and the first one in the second half, which technically starts in 6 weeks (wow).
Schweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 592 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 19069 times:
Quoting gigneil (Reply 2): What the hell goes on between completing and delivering a 787 these days I have absolutely no understanding of.
Neither do I. I hope there will be a book published soon covering the 787's travails. How too-rosy promises, supplier non-conformance with specs, and difficulty with reworking early frames played out.
I'm curious to know what UA's coach seating on the 787 will be. Will it be 2-4-2 as originally expected when CO ordered theirs, lo so many years ago, or 3-3-3, as many on anet have predicted?
So far as I can tell, United has not released anything about this. If early models are overweight, and they mean to use them to AKL after U.S. domestic proving missions, then maybe less weight could make a difference, and eight-abreast in Y might still be in the offing. I hope so, anyway.
United727 From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 18761 times:
After some quick research, it appears that "skytony" is correct with his 3-3-3. So....with that said lets talk about the initial domestic routing so we can all be prepared to do mileage runs with the new fleet before they go international.
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United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18028 times:
Quoting TWA772LR (Thread starter): When is UA supposed to receive their first 787s? I know they will be flow domestically for familiarization purposes, but what will be their first international routes? Will IAH-AKL start when the 787s go international?
UA should receive 5 787-822s this year...starting sometime in the 3rd quarter.
LN 45, 50, 52, 53 & 55...all of which are on the Everett flight line undergoing some change and rework modifications.
IAH-AKL was announced as the first international route (IAH-LOS was announced as a 787 route as well but it started up with a 777...no idea if it will switch at some point.) UA hasn't announced allot lately in regards to what routes that the 787s will fly probably because they are not entirely trusting of Boeing's delivery dates.
I'm not sure if its 3-3-3 or 2-4-2 or not (I do think at one point we discussed it on here and decided that it was going to be 3-3-3.) The onboard product (seats IFE ect) should be the same as what is being retrofitted to the 2-class 763s and 764's.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17531 times:
I wonder has UA talked about flying the 787-8 out of SFO? I have my doubts for now, since SFO is UA's major US West Coast international hub and the 788 may be just a tad too small for many long-range international flights out of SFO.
As such, it'll be mostly 747-400's and 777-200ER's out of SFO on long-range international flights until 2016, when the A350-900 starts to arrive to replace UA's oldest 777's.
Doing a nonstop to MEL might be a possibility. As it stands, UA doesn't really have aircraft capable enough of the flight (the 744 can make it, but would struggle and probably be a bit big) though they've spoken about nonstop MEL flights in the past...
SFO-MEL makes more sense to me than LAX-MEL.
: I'm pretty sure I read in a company letter that they would be run EWR-IAH-LAX for some months.
: Come on UA...perhaps you are feeling "retro"? Remember back when...when you flew 2-3 DC-10's a day between BDL and ORD? Why not a few 787's??
: Don't mistake the CO ordered airplanes the-824's with theUAL ordered -822's they very WELL might have differen't seating configuration by the time Ma
: A 3-3-3 config is very disappointing but not at all a surprise. Comfort is not a consideration for most airlines with Y class, especially domestic car
: How does 3-3-3 on the 787 compare to the tight seating on the 777?
: More space than a 10 abreast 777, less than a 9 abreast 777. The general tagline seems to be that the seats in a 9 abreast 787 are the same width as
: I think we can expect something around 32" pitch in standard Y with seats at or just a bit under 18" wide.
: There have been no rumors around SFO on 787's service. I believe the 787 is to small for any current routes and are not used to their capabilities.
: The only time we'd see 787's at SFO is if they open up new long haul routes across the Pacific. I don't think we'd expect that for a few years. I don'
: Correct. All the first runs on each type will be for trial and proving purposes between the major hubs/MX bases. Whether or not they are simply "repo
: EWR-MCO was a big CO "break in" route when they got their widebody aircraft in the late 1990s/Early 2000s. However, this could change. I know for sur
: Well since it's going to be PMCO pilots flying them, and there's not a PMCO widebody pilot domicile in SFO, ORD, DEN or IAD I think we might rule the