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US In *alliance?  
User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 827 times:

US has committed to joining some international airline alliance within the next future?

I'm hedging my bets, but here's my forecast:

*alliance: 40% (lucrative east coast FF base/feed to european partners... UA FF/codesharing would be a problem though)

oneworld: 30% (American FF ties will end, but can always be reinstated... will BA still be a problem?)

qualiflyer: 25% (in need of a US airline, US has the east coast-Europe feed)

Skyteam or Wings: 5% (not going to happen with Delta or Continental, US's 1st and 2nd largest NE/Eastern Seaboard competitors)

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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4514 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 790 times:

UA and US's soured relationship pretty well kills chances of United allowing US into Star. The two carriers have an excellent route complementarity. But until one or both carriers loses its current managment, they probably won't join forces. Wolf made Goodwin look like a fool and Goodwin probably knows it.

I'd give oneworld the best shot....US was always more in the oneworld orbit before the UA merger attempt, with the AA FF hookup. As you note it could be easily reinstated. The two carriers would have excellent route complementarity. Also, i'd bet AA is still smarting from the loss of Canadian....they'd be glad to get some more North American strength into oneworld.

Northwest/KLM is the only other possibility IMO. But AA has Don Carty, probably the brightest and most capable Cartel-Six Carriers CEO right now. If he wants US, and signs are that he does, they'll probably join oneworld.

Jim



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User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 783 times:

Jim,

I would be willing to bet there are still "lingering feelings" between UA and US. Despite "Mr. 280lbs of shame" Goodwin. =)

However, you're right about Don Carty. Although Richard Anderson of NW is proving to be a very shrewd dude.

SFO


User currently offlineBHopsde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 779 times:

Keep in mind: SR is REMOVING the Qualiflyer livery from the undercarriage of its fleet...sign of things to come!

User currently offlineBHopsde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 778 times:

SR/SN also friendly with AA already...who knows that might not last ??? Any thoughts?

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