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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9235 posts, RR: 26
Posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4464 times:

http://www.benzinga.com/pressrelease...-flying-from-portland-ore-to-kauai

SEATTLE, May 17, 2012

SEATTLE, May 17, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Alaska Airlines announced today it will offer four flights a week between Portland, Ore., and Kauai, Hawaii, starting Nov. 5. The new seasonal service is in addition to flights Alaska offers from Portland International Airport to Honolulu, Maui and Kona, on the Big Island of Hawaii.

Read more: http://www.benzinga.com/pressrelease...ortland-ore-to-kauai#ixzz1v87kpxKI


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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3964 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

Excellent! The good news for PDX (and Alaska Airlines) just keeps rolling in.

User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2797 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4338 times:

I figured it was only a matter of time before this happened. Congrats to PDX, whose sole hub carrier is adding nonstop mainline service to DCA and LIH, with regional affiliates adding nonstops to SBA, BZN, PSC and resuming BIL, BLI, and MSO. Not to mention the airport's other new flights on a bevy of low cost carriers, including F9 to COS (which has exceeded the airline's expectations), NK to DFW, WN to AUS, and brand new tenant VX to SFO and LAX! Exciting times for this market indeed.


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User currently offlinelhpdx From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4291 times:

This is awesome news for Portland! Definitely a great year for additional/returning services...I'm starting to see PDX as the little airport that could........

User currently onlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2881 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

Excuse me while I keel over in shock. Hasn't everyone been speculating that this would be AS's next new route?

So when is SAN-LIH going to be announced? I thought AS would beat G4 to BLI-OGG, but I guess not.


User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5227 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4176 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 4):
I thought AS would beat G4 to BLI-OGG, but I guess not.

   This puzzles me too.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 4):
So when is SAN-LIH going to be announced?

I was pretty confident that we'd see a split (daily) flight between LIH and KOA from SAN before the end of the year. I guess I've been misreading the tea leaves again... (Maybe it just doesn't work with Lipton's Instant?) Oh well, it's nice to dream.

No question that Portland is the golden land of opportunity for Alaska and Horizon in 2012! Seems to be pretty guilded for other cx as well -- Virgin, Delta, Spirit (and others?) all growing as well this year. Apparently the economy must be turning around quickly in the region and that's great to see.

More congrats to PDX and AAG!

bb


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

Quoting lhpdx (Reply 3):
This is awesome news for Portland! Definitely a great year for additional/returning services...

Yes, my vision for PDX in the next decade or two will be that all of the major carriers will either go down to RJ-flights only, or pull out of PDX entirely. Then the airport will solely belong to AS and LCCs only...

I mean, look at the facts. Big airlines (with the exception of AS) are slowly cutting back PDX service, while AS and LCCs expand. For example, HA recently cut their OGG flight, now they just do HNL (likely thanks to AS). Last I checked UA now only has two daily RJ flights to LAX, no mainline at all. The international concourse is a ghost town. The list goes on.

But go take a look at the C concourse! Bustling with AS activity, and still growing...

It seems like PDX is turning into an LCC destination. I suppose that it fits in with Portland's economy and the people living here. Think about it. NK only added PDX last fall and already they're expanding to DFW. B6 brings back their seasonal BOS flight in a few weeks. WN is expanding to AUS, etc etc.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 5):
Seems to be pretty guilded for other cx as well -- Virgin, Delta, Spirit (and others?) all growing as well this year.

Yes. I am not sure about DL expansions, but AS, F9, NK, and VX are certainly expanding at PDX. (VX starts June 5)

Quoting SANFan (Reply 5):
No question that Portland is the golden land of opportunity for Alaska and Horizon in 2012!

Oh yes. Except QX is gone - it's all AS livery now. The Q400s were rebranded as AS aircraft about a year ago. (I think)

Anyone who wants to learn more about AS's flights to Hawaii should read this recent thread:
Alaska Airlines OPS To Hawaii (by southwest737500 May 5 2012 in Civil Aviation)

I think it's time for me to find a new airport...   


User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3838 times:
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Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):
Oh yes. Except QX is gone - it's all AS livery now. The Q400s were rebranded as AS aircraft about a year ago


Um, don't tell the thousand plus QX employees that! It's in livery only. Aircraft are flown as "Alaska flight_____, proudly operated by Horizon"

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):
Last I checked UA now only has two daily RJ flights to LAX, no mainline at all
UA continues to be a big player in PDX with mainline flights to DEN, ORD, IAD, IAH, and EWR.

Might want to do a little homework before posting......

Tom SJC (exPDX)

[Edited 2012-05-17 17:01:28]

[Edited 2012-05-17 17:34:47]


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User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3788 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 7):

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):
Oh yes. Except QX is gone - it's all AS livery now. The Q400s were rebranded as AS aircraft about a year ago


In livery only. Aircraft are flown as "Alaska flight_____, proudly operated by Horizon"

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):
Last I checked UA now only has two daily RJ flights to LAX, no mainline at all
UA continues to be a big player in PDX with mainline flights to DEN, ORD, IAD, IAH, and EWR.

Might want to do a little homework before posting......

Tom SJC (exPDX)

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UA also has mainline to SFO. That's mainline service to 6 of 8 domestic hubs, with RJ service to LAX.

DL isn't flying a single RJ into PDX and has 767 service to Atlanta this summer.

US added PHL and CLT service for the summer.

B6 has already started their seasonal BOS service.

Not sure why you are so negative against PDX and Alaska, AllnessW. I think it sounds like a great idea for you to go find another airport.


User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3769 times:
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Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 8):
UA also has mainline to SFO.

Of course!. Sorry...I don't know how I left that one out!

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 8):
Not sure why you are so negative against PDX and Alaska, AllnessW. I think it sounds like a great idea for you to go find another airport.

        

Tom SJC



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User currently offlineual757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 7):
UA continues to be a big player in PDX with mainline flights to DEN, ORD, IAD, IAH, and EWR.

Don't forget SFO!


User currently offlinelhpdx From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

After reading AlnessW assessment of PDX one could really get depress about their own airport, but thank God his assessment does not match reality.......Maybe he should find a new airport because I'm proud of the growth were seen this past year....

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3964 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3576 times:

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 8):
DL isn't flying a single RJ into PDX and has 767 service to Atlanta this summer.

DL used to fly the occasional RJ into PDX from SLC (OO operated) is that even all mainline now?


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 7):
Um, don't tell the thousand plus QX employees that! It's in livery only. Aircraft are flown as "Alaska flight_____, proudly operated by Horizon"

Oops!    Thanks for the clarification.

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 7):
UA continues to be a big player in PDX with mainline flights to DEN, ORD, IAD, IAH, and EWR.

Right, when I said "no mainline at all," I was referring to LAX, not the other hubs. My mistake for not making that clearer!

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 8):
and has 767 service to Atlanta this summer.

Cool! Do you happen to know the schedule?

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 8):
B6 has already started their seasonal BOS service.

  

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 8):
Not sure why you are so negative against PDX and Alaska, AllnessW.

I am not trying to be negative. By all means I think it is good news that PDX is recovering. I was just giving my predictions on future service and what we might see. Like many other posters have said, PDX seems to be growing, and this is a good thing. And if I don't care for AS? That's my own fault.

Quoting lhpdx (Reply 11):
because I'm proud of the growth were seen

So am I. See my previous comment.

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 8):
I think it sounds like a great idea for you to go find another airport.

Indeed, it is, hence my earlier comment:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):
I think it's time for me to find a new airport


User currently onlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2881 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 8):
DL isn't flying a single RJ into PDX and has 767 service to Atlanta this summer.

Yeah, and DL flies mainline equipment into AMS and NRT too. Yep, PDX sure is dying out among non-LLC and non-AS/QX airlines......


User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1477 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3404 times:
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Quoting AlnessW (Reply 13):
Right, when I said "no mainline at all," I was referring to LAX, not the other hubs.

The same goes for SEA. LAX is down to only RJs. So it's not like this is just a PDX thing. It's a UA thing.


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 14):
Yeah, and DL flies mainline equipment into AMS and NRT too.

Right, those are international 767s. I assume the ATL flights would be domestic 767s?

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 14):
Yep, PDX sure is dying out among non-LLC and non-AS/QX airlines......

   Glad someone agrees with me. Thanks, BoeingGuy!

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 15):
The same goes for SEA. LAX is down to only RJs. So it's not like this is just a PDX thing. It's a UA thing.

Interesting to know, thanks.


User currently offlineHiFlyerAS From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 829 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 15):
The same goes for SEA. LAX is down to only RJs. So it's not like this is just a PDX thing. It's a UA thing.

UA, DL, etc long ago ceeded the U.S. west coast (not inter-California) to AS. That created opportunities for VX and others. UA along with AS were the biggest players for the last 15 years and when UA began to abandon the north-south routes on the west coast it played a large part in the creation of VX. UA has only themselves then to blame for what is now a large thorn in their side out of SFO.


User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1477 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3173 times:
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Quoting AlnessW (Reply 16):
Glad someone agrees with me. Thanks, BoeingGuy!

I don't want to speak for BoeingGuy but I almost feel like his comment was sarcastic, not a ringing endorsement of your feelings. He was pointing out more mainline service that flies into PDX and then followed it with that comment.


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 18):
I don't want to speak for BoeingGuy but I almost feel like his comment was sarcastic, not a ringing endorsement of your feelings. He was pointing out more mainline service that flies into PDX and then followed it with that comment.


You tell me. I'm just trying to voice my opinion here...


User currently onlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2881 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3079 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 16):
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 14):
Yep, PDX sure is dying out among non-LLC and non-AS/QX airlines......

Glad someone agrees with me. Thanks, BoeingGuy!
Quoting AlnessW (Reply 16):
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 14):
Yep, PDX sure is dying out among non-LLC and non-AS/QX airlines......

Glad someone agrees with me. Thanks, BoeingGuy!
Quoting hatbutton (Reply 18):
I don't want to speak for BoeingGuy but I almost feel like his comment was sarcastic, not a ringing endorsement of your feelings. He was pointing out more mainline service that flies into PDX and then followed it with that comment.

Hatbutton was correct. Not only is PDX not dying out as far as mainline service, but the city itself is very vibrant and growing. It's not exactly a stagnating Rust Belt kind of place now. AS is expanding there now. AMS and NRT are holding there own; and DL has mentioned possible CDG service in the future.

The few significant PDX discontinuances like AA PDX-ORD are more a reflection on the airline being sick, not PDX.


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2924 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 20):
but the city itself is very vibrant and growing.

Indeed, it is, hence my earlier comments:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 13):
By all means I think it is good news that PDX is recovering.
Quoting AlnessW (Reply 13):
Like many other posters have said, PDX seems to be growing, and this is a good thing.

  

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 20):
DL has mentioned possible CDG service in the future.

I have heard rumors of this. Does PDX see enough international traffic for a 2nd flight to Europe?

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 20):
The few significant PDX discontinuances like AA PDX-ORD are more a reflection on the airline being sick, not PDX.

I remember being surprised when I first heard that AA used to do ORD, if you consider how saturated that route already is by UA and AS (whom AA codeshares with).


User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1477 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2783 times:
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Quoting AlnessW (Reply 21):
I remember being surprised when I first heard that AA used to do ORD, if you consider how saturated that route already is by UA and AS (whom AA codeshares with).

AS didn't serve this route until AA dropped it.


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 22):
AS didn't serve this route until AA dropped it.

Interesting to know.


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2880 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 12):
DL used to fly the occasional RJ into PDX from SLC (OO operated) is that even all mainline now

When DL had the Asian hub here at PDX, DL had a SLC-BOI-PDX-BOI-SLC & SFO-PDX-SFO CRJ flights.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 21):
I have heard rumors of this. Does PDX see enough international traffic for a 2nd flight to Europe?

Check with LH, they may have a better answer for you.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 21):
I remember being surprised when I first heard that AA used to do ORD, if you consider how saturated that route already is by UA and AS (whom AA codeshares with).

The problem with AA on the ORD route, was UA was operating DC8's, DC-10's then 757's, 767's and even a weekly 747 vs AA starting with the 727-100 then going to the M80, people just liked UA much better. My AA rep would speak on the subject often, always hoping we'd get a seasonal upgauge to a 757. IIRC NW also operated PDX-ORD with a DC-10 in the late 70's and early 80's, they also flew SEA-ORD with a DC-10 and 747. AS is a rather new entrant in the market.



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25 HiFlyerAS : Boy, those were the days! It's so sad now that there are no widebodies to anywhere but Europe or Asia. Even TATL flights now might be a narrow-body.
26 wedgetail737 : When DL had their Asian hub at PDX, they flew 727-200's between SFO and PDX. PDX is lucky to still have the HA 767-300 to HNL.
27 BoeingGuy : This has been the case several times: SEA-STL, PDX-ORD, SJC-AUS (which unfortunately didn't last), SJC-OGG, SJC-HNL, and picked up SJC/SMF-GDL after
28 RWA380 : They did indeed operate SFO with a 72S for a fair amount of time, but near the end of the PDX hub, the SFO flight was operated by OO for DL on a CRJ,
29 Post contains images AlnessW : Which was in the... 90s? Cool, thanks. Do they want to bring back PDX-FRA with the A340? Interesting to know, thanks. Couldn't agree more. Yes, indee
30 RWA380 : I doubt it, they pulled out to fly to SEA instead, although the flights were full in season, LH struggled with keeping year round service, PDX was to
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