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User currently offlineMLI717fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 251 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2951 times:

I came across an article discussing PHF after airtran's departure. I thought it would be interesting to start a tread discussing previous and upcoming FL station closings, what other service changes have occurred, and what the airports are doing to get the capacity back and prices down....

PHF:
http://articles.dailypress.com/2012-...ular-air-service-airport-officials
Bad news:
Boardings in March were down 29%
Delta replaced 4x mainline & 2x CR7s to ATL with 6x CRJ to ATL.

Good news:
F9 to add summer Daily DEN service
G4 providing mostly 4x weekly service to SFB

What the airport is doing:
They continue to work with PeoplExpress to set up a new operation.


MLI:
http://qctimes.com/business/q-c-inte...0-9ef7-11e1-931b-001a4bcf887a.html
Bad news:
Boardings down in March 2.3%, 5% for the year (about 20% since FL's cancellation of ATL service)
(2011) DL reduced ATL service from 5x CR7 to 4x CR7, cut MEM service

Good news:
G4 continues to grow
AA looks to be making their additional seasonal ORD frequency year-round (Also added a DFW frequency in 2011)

What the airport is doing:
Airport management is working with G4 to add additional destinations from MLI.


ACY:
http://www.njbiz.com/article/2012051...ity-service-high-hopes-for-airport
Bad news:
Passenger boardings declined after FL's departure.

Good news:
NK began ATL service yesterday
NK Added a seasonal DTW flight and an additional BOS frequency

What the airport is doing:
Conducted analysis for NK to add additional service.


BMI: (Upcoming)
http://wjbc.com/6-new-weekly-cira-flights-start-this-week/
Bad news:
DL is reducing 5x CR7 ATL service to 1x CR9, 1x CR7, 1x CRJ

Good news:
F9 started flying 4x weekly service to DEN today and will begin 3x weekly service to MCO
G4 started 2x weekly SFB service on 5/16

What the airport is doing:
Meeting with F9 to build a stronger partnership with the airport

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User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

Quoting MLI717fan (Thread starter):
ACY:
http://www.njbiz.com/article/2012051...ity-service-high-hopes-for-airport
Bad news:
Passenger boardings declined after FL's departure.

ACY was up in pax traffic in March, which was impressive given the mild weather in NJ, and loss of FL's 2x to ATL:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...c-7f86-11e1-9425-001a4bcf887a.html

Maybe it's down now, but the seasonal service has just started again. NK has become worse in pricing transparency, and added fees from 12 months ago, and I suppose costs are just higher. The ACY-ORD fares seem higher this year. Last year one could fly to ORD r/t under $100.


User currently offlineMLI717fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 251 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2763 times:

Quoting Flytravel (Reply 1):
ACY was up in pax traffic in March, which was impressive given the mild weather in NJ, and loss of FL's 2x to ATL:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n....html

Oops, my bad. I checked Transtats for January and traffic was down slightly (i think about 1.5%), but they must have recovered since then. Thanks for the correction.

Quoting Flytravel (Reply 1):
Maybe it's down now, but the seasonal service has just started again. NK has become worse in pricing transparency, and added fees from 12 months ago, and I suppose costs are just higher. The ACY-ORD fares seem higher this year. Last year one could fly to ORD r/t under $100.

I just checked bing for next month, and it's showing ACY-ORD at $184/rt. I thought bing included fees, probably not carry-on/checked baggage though.


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5239 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

While the cuts at BMI and MLI have had a negative impact on those markets pax numbers, PIA has picked up 3x CRJ's to ATL on Delta, most likely as a result of the cuts at BMI.

One airport's loss is another airport's gain.



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User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

Quoting MLI717fan (Thread starter):
what other service changes have occurred, and what the airports are doing to get the capacity back and prices down....

From the article you linked:
"Mueller said the SJTA is currently working with another low-cost legacy carrier to offer direct flights from the city to Dulles International Airport, in Washington, D.C."

I wonder if this is UA? Legacy but not low-cost. An IAD link would atleast give the airport national network connections even if not low fares and is shorter haul than DL's attempt with ATL.

[Edited 2012-05-18 11:52:01]

User currently offlineMLI717fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 251 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2532 times:

Quoting Flytravel (Reply 4):

I wonder if this is UA? Legacy but not low-cost. An IAD link would atleast give the airport national network connections even if not low fares and is shorter haul than DL's attempt with ATL.

That is curious. The only LCC that is really strong in DC is WN/FL and I really doubt it's them. lol.


User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1083 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

FL quit flying to AVL the first week of January, but traffic at the airport was up 9% Jan - Mar. G4 has filled in with 2x service to SFB, which has done well (92.5% load factor for the first 3 months of the year), but is not yet at the 4x FL was offering at peak season to MCO. Hopefully, G4 will also add FLL and/or PIE (FL was also flying AVL-TPA 3x seasonally.)

User currently offlinenkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2711 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

For ACY.... according to the following article, for the first 4 months traffic is up 5.4% from 2011

http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...ines_to_Atlantic_City_airport.html

I can tell you that some of that has to do with Spirit putting the A321 four times daily into ACY for the first four months, where last year we didnt have any.. Also DTW was upgraded to a 320 this year and ATL is also a 320.. ( BTW, the first 2 ATL flights went out with 176 and 177 pax respectively out of 178 seats, so hope it keeps up). Anothe reason is that charter traffic is up.

The IAD thing is not a low cost carrier....

[Edited 2012-05-19 17:07:02]


I have no association with Spirit Airlines
User currently onlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 452 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1596 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 3):
While the cuts at BMI and MLI have had a negative impact on those markets pax numbers, PIA has picked up 3x CRJ's to ATL on Delta, most likely as a result of the cuts at BMI.

Plus, as soon as F9's plans for 4x-weekly BMI-DEN became public, UA announced a second daily PIA-DEN roundtrip. And on the day after DL began 3x daily PIA-ATL (April 9), G4 announced 2x-weekly PIA-PGD.

For January-March 2012, before any of the new services began, PIA experienced a 10% increase in pax. My guess is Peoria-based Caterpillar is really supporting the local airport, especially since the new terminal opened in April 2011.


User currently offlinenkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2711 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

Quoting MLI717fan (Thread starter):
Delta replaced 4x mainline & 2x CR7s to ATL with 6x CRJ to ATL.

I think we saw this coming, I am curious though if the average airfare to ATL went up and by how much



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