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User currently offlineBACCALA From United States of America, joined May 2009, 133 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6976 times:

Is United still in terminal 6 at LAX or are these maps just not updated? http://www.lawa.org/welcome_lax.aspx?id=246 it's the same on UA.com as well https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/airport/maps/lax.aspx

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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6973 times:

The answer is: yes UA is still in T6 and will remain there, yes UA premier check-in is in T6, and no, those maps are not up to date in any way shape or form.


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User currently offlineBACCALA From United States of America, joined May 2009, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6943 times:

I thought Alaska took over the entire Terminal?

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6904 times:

Quoting BACCALA (Reply 2):
I thought Alaska took over the entire Terminal?

DL, UA and AS all have operations in T6.

UA has around 20 flights a day out of T6 still.



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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2351 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6672 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 3):
and AS all have operations in T6.

How are the gates split between AS, UA, and DL?



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6660 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 4):
Quoting United1 (Reply 3):
and AS all have operations in T6.

How are the gates split between AS, UA, and DL?

The gates on the connector building between the satellite and the terminal are used by UA on the T7 side and DL on the T5 side. The satellite itself is mostly AS but DL and UA use those gates too at certain times of the day.



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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2351 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6604 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 5):
The satellite itself is mostly AS but DL and UA use those gates too at certain times of the day.


I know, but I was looking for a detailed breakdown of gates in T6. which gates are solely used by AS, UA, and DL? Which gates are shared?



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User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6488 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 3):
UA has around 20 flights a day out of T6 still.

Wow! Didn't realize UA had that many flights out of Terminal 6.

Quoting United1 (Reply 5):
The gates on the connector building between the satellite

What satellite...?

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 6):
I know, but I was looking for a detailed breakdown of gates in T6.

Same here. Does such a thing exist for LAX? (Not just Terminal 6, but all the others, too.)

Also, doesn't F9 use Terminal 6? That LAX map also says NK is in Terminal 6; aren't they in Terminal 3 now?


User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6460 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 6):
I know, but I was looking for a detailed breakdown of gates in T6. which gates are solely used by AS, UA, and DL? Which gates are shared?

Pretty much all of the gates in the satellite/rotunda are shared...T6 has some very complex usage rights/prefered use and priority rights on the gates.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 7):
Quoting United1 (Reply 5):
The gates on the connector building between the satellite

What satellite...?

The rotunda/satellite used to not be connected to the terminal.....

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 7):
Also, doesn't F9 use Terminal 6? That LAX map also says NK is in Terminal 6; aren't they in Terminal 3 now?

Think they are all moving to T3 or T2.....CM also uses T6.



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User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6429 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 8):
Pretty much all of the gates in the satellite/rotunda are shared...T6 has some very complex usage rights/prefered use and priority rights on the gates.

Interesting to know, I suppose that would make sense with all of its shared usage. It sounds like it is almost like a "common use facility?"

Though I do recall once departing out of LAX on DL and our flight was at Terminal 6, gate 61. The podium and gate area was definitely painted in DL colors.

Quoting United1 (Reply 8):
The rotunda/satellite used to not be connected to the terminal.....

I don't think I was aware of that. Shows you how little I know!  
Quoting United1 (Reply 8):
Think they are all moving to T3 or T2

Never heard of such plans. Is there room in Terminal 2 or 3?

Quoting United1 (Reply 8):
CM also uses T6.

  


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5191 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6420 times:

Is T6 connected to T5 and T7 airside? Or if you are connecting with UA and arrive in one and depart from the other do you have to go and out and back through security?

And is it true that PMCO still only use T6, or is UA all mixed up together?



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User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6403 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 10):
Is T6 connected to T5 and T7 airside?

Yes.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 10):
Or if you are connecting with UA and arrive in one and depart from the other do you have to go and out and back through security?

No, Terminals 5-8 are all connected post-security.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 10):
And is it true that PMCO still only use T6, or is UA all mixed up together?

I am not sure, however I think it is all mixed up together now through Terminals 6, 7, and 8.


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5191 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6388 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 11):

Thanks for that



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6345 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 5):
The gates on the connector building between the satellite and the terminal are used by UA on the T7 side and DL on the T5 side. The satellite itself is mostly AS but DL and UA use those gates too at certain times of the day.

Actually UA is now the only airline using the connector building gates 60-63. The satellite gates are now mostly AS and DL. I've only seen a few UA flights use the satellite gates since AS moved in. F9, CM, and G4 also use the satellite gates.



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6335 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 6):
I know, but I was looking for a detailed breakdown of gates in T6. which gates are solely used by AS, UA, and DL? Which gates are shared?

60 through 63- UA
64 and above- AS/QX, DL, F9, G4, and CM



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User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 922 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6313 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 8):
The rotunda/satellite used to not be connected to the terminal.....

Except by a tunnel. In some terminals that tunnel is still open (or it was the last time I used one of those terminals.) I mostly use T-1, T-2, T-8, and TBIT which never had tunnels. T3-7 did. There were also tunnels connecting the satellite buildings from T-4 to T-7. I think one of those tunnels is still open.


User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2351 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6240 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 8):
The rotunda/satellite used to not be connected to the terminal.....
Quoting AlnessW (Reply 9):
I don't think I was aware of that. Shows you how little I know!

Yes the tunnels are a remnant of the early jet age when all the gates at LAX were separated from the ticketing buildings.

Vintage Aerial LAX

Quoting FL787 (Reply 14):
60 through 63- UA
64 and above- AS/QX, DL, F9, G4, and CM

Yuck, it sounds like T6 is all CUTE. I hate generic gate counters.



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User currently offlinepgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5940 times:

Here's how it breaks down as of now.

UA has the "neck" gates - 60, 61, 62, 63 as its own.

The remaining gates are all common use, however AS has preferential use of 8 of them.

DL usually uses 68A or B at certain times of the day but not exclusively. I see today that it has a flight at 66, for example.

F9 squeeze in wherever there's room when the flights arrive.

CM usually uses 66, I think it is, but it doesn't have to. It simply has to be in one of the gates at the top of the stairs in the back because those have sterile corridor access to the FIS.

G4 and NK are now in Terminal 3.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24865 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5850 times:

One correct to above.
G4 now uses T-5 gates. While their ticket counter remains in T-6, Delta very recently began to do their ground handling.

As for United, they are a heavy users of T-6 and will continue to do so as part of their master lease. As an example on Friday they had 29 flights utilize T-6 gates including the rotunda gates.



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User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 789 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5398 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 7):
That LAX map also says NK is in Terminal 6; aren't they in Terminal 3 now?
Quoting pgtravel (Reply 17):
G4 and NK are now in Terminal 3.

How long was NK in T-6? I remember NK being in T-3 just about 4-5 years ago.

Quoting United1 (Reply 8):
Think they are all moving to T3 or T2..
Quoting AlnessW (Reply 9):
Never heard of such plans. Is there room in Terminal 2 or 3?

I do not think they can move to T-2. T-2 is currently being used by KLM, AF, Air NZ, VS, Hawaiin, VA(?) and Aero Mexico. T-2 cannot accomodate all those domesctic carriers.


User currently offlinedeltacto From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4913 times:

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User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 618 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 12):
Thanks for that

Anytime.   It should also be noted that Terminals 6 and 7 actually share the same security checkpoint.

Quoting FL787 (Reply 13):
Actually UA is now the only airline using the connector building gates 60-63.
Quoting FL787 (Reply 14):
60 through 63- UA
Quoting pgtravel (Reply 17):
UA has the "neck" gates - 60, 61, 62, 63 as its own.

Interesting to know, though it sounds like this has not always been the case? See my post below:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 9):
I do recall once departing out of LAX on DL and our flight was at Terminal 6, gate 61. The podium and gate area was definitely painted in DL colors.

   (This was in December of 2010.)

Quoting FL787 (Reply 13):
The satellite gates are now mostly AS and DL. I've only seen a few UA flights use the satellite gates since AS moved in. F9, CM, and G4 also use the satellite gates.

Thanks.

Quoting aklrno (Reply 15):
There were also tunnels connecting the satellite buildings from T-4 to T-7. I think one of those tunnels is still open.

Yes, Terminals 4-8 are connected airside via a tunnel, but the Terminal 4-Terminal 5 tunnel was blocked off a couple of years ago. (I think.)

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 16):
Yes the tunnels are a remnant of the early jet age when all the gates at LAX were separated from the ticketing buildings.

I was not aware of this. Thanks for sharing that image!

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 16):
Yuck, it sounds like T6 is all CUTE. I hate generic gate counters.

I'm not crazy about them either, but they seem to be becoming more common these days. Take a look at the international Terminal E in BOS. ALL the ticket counters and gate podiums are common-use.

Quoting pgtravel (Reply 17):
Here's how it breaks down as of now.

Cool, thanks for the info.

Quoting pgtravel (Reply 17):
DL usually uses 68A or B at certain times of the day but not exclusively. I see today that it has a flight at 66, for example.

I hear DL also often parks 747s at Terminal 6 and uses the FIS facility there.

Quoting pgtravel (Reply 17):
CM usually uses 66, I think it is, but it doesn't have to. It simply has to be in one of the gates at the top of the stairs in the back because those have sterile corridor access to the FIS.

So only the rotunda gates have access to the FIS facility? If that's the case, does UA ever send any international arrivals to Terminal 6? I know Terminals 6 and 7 share the same FIS facility...

Quoting pgtravel (Reply 17):
G4 and NK are now in Terminal 3.

  

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):
G4 now uses T-5 gates. While their ticket counter remains in T-6, Delta very recently began to do their ground handling.

I was not aware of this. Thanks!

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):
As for United, they are a heavy users of T-6 and will continue to do so as part of their master lease. As an example on Friday they had 29 flights utilize T-6 gates including the rotunda gates.

Once again, I didn't realize Terminal 6 was so heavily used by UA. By comparison, do you know how many flights go in and out of Terminal 7 (and 8)?

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 19):
How long was NK in T-6? I remember NK being in T-3 just about 4-5 years ago.

Same here.

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 19):
I do not think they can move to T-2. T-2 is currently being used by KLM, AF, Air NZ, VS, Hawaiin, VA(?) and Aero Mexico. T-2 cannot accomodate all those domesctic carriers.

That doesn't surprise me. Terminal 2 does seem petty full...

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 19):
VA(?)

If I am not mistaken, VA sends departures out of Terminal 3 (gate 38?) and arrivals into Terminal 5, using the FIS facility there.


User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3708 times:
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Quoting AlnessW (Reply 21):
I hear DL also often parks 747s at Terminal 6 and uses the FIS facility there.

This is because it's difficult if not impossible for them to park the 744 in T5 without having to close nearby gates. I don't know even if they changed the position of the jetways they could fix this situation. I believe the 744 will soon be gone and the NRT flight will be going back to 77E/77L for the summer.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):
As for United, they are a heavy users of T-6 and will continue to do so as part of their master lease. As an example on Friday they had 29 flights utilize T-6 gates including the rotunda gates.

I think some might not be aware CO had all their flights out of T6 prior to the merger. They ran quite a few flights and with the amount UA has out of LAX, I don't think it would be logistically possible for them to only use 7 & 8. UA has been using 8 for quite sometime now for the A319/A320s which eases some of the congestion in T7. However, I believe UA can't use the T8 gates for their 73NGs. With the winglets, they would have to close the gate next to them because of safety clearance, or re-align them in which they would lose a few gates so it makes sense to leave as is.

More and more PMCO flights have been departing from T7 and PMUA flights have also are now going out of the T6 60-63 gates. If a UA flight is using a gate in the rotunda portion, there's a gate open long enough they can deplane the a/c before AS needs it. It seems DL has been using the rotunda gates during high traffic periods, especially for redeye and noon time departures.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24865 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 19):
How long was NK in T-6? I remember NK being in T-3 just about 4-5 years ago.

4-5 years. Essentially since VX took home in T-3.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 21):
So only the rotunda gates have access to the FIS facility? If that's the case, does UA ever send any international arrivals to Terminal 6? I know Terminals 6 and 7 share the same FIS facility...

Yes UA can and does use T-6 gates for FIS as needed.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 21):

Once again, I didn't realize Terminal 6 was so heavily used by UA. By comparison, do you know how many flights go in and out of Terminal 7 (and 8)?

Well UA has about 100 mainline, and 100 express flights at LAX.



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User currently offlineflyua From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 315 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3207 times:

FYI regarding United's operations in Terminal 6:

As of May 15, United has designated the western end of the Terminal 6 check-in area as the "Aloha Lobby" with a special section for customer check-in for Hawaii flights. (This area is adjacent to the current "Premium Customers' Lobby.") All United departures to HNL, ITO, KOA, LIH, and OGG are being assigned to Terminal 6 gates 60, 61, 62, and 63 whenever possible, and customer service agents assigned to work in Terminal 6 are encouraged to wear Hawaiian shirts and accessories.


25 Post contains images AlnessW : I have heard of this. Can Terminal 5 take a 777 without closing adjacent gates? I was aware of this; I hear that AS now uses the ticket counter posit
26 Post contains links teneriffe77 : I was looking at the Vintage Aerial LAX link from reply 16 and found from the same source (Los Angeles Fire Department Historical Society's photo stre
27 AlnessW : How ironic... I had not noticed that before.
28 FlyASAGuy2005 : FWIW, last time I flew throuh T6 on DL (don't remember the exact date but within the last 6 months, flew out of 6 on a 763 to Atlanta and the podium
29 AlnessW : What was the gate number, do you remember? I'm just curious as to when gates 60-63 became UA gates:
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