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Delta Mainline On LAX-MCI  
User currently offlineBDL757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6007 times:

My original post got deleted but: starting August 14, 2012 DL will have mainline aircraft on the LAX to MCI flight.

Flight DL 830
Departs MCI at 7:30am
Arrives LAX at 9:10am

Flight DL 920
Departs LAX at 6:30pm
Arrives MCI at 11:58pm

The flights will be operated with A319 equipment.


**Also on June 7 DL will add a JFK to MCI flight

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User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4191 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

like! It's nice to see more and more routes being taken by mainline vice outsourced flying.


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User currently offlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1628 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5333 times:
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Delta shouldn't be flying this route.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7528 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5319 times:

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 2):
Delta shouldn't be flying this route.

Please tell us all why DL shouldn't be flying this route, and/or why any carrier should or should not be flying a given route?


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5234 times:

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 2):
Delta shouldn't be flying this route.

You make a left field comment and leave no explanation?...



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User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2273 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5229 times:

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 2):
Delta shouldn't be flying this route.

why? please explain...


User currently offlineAA757200 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5208 times:

Hopefully DL will add mainline to LGA as well. With F9 dropping the route, the added capacity would be nice.

[Edited 2012-05-19 21:54:19]

User currently offlinekstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 748 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5085 times:

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 2):
Delta shouldn't be flying this route.

Delta's technically been flying this for a while. Had an E175 on it for a good amount of time, and now apparently needs the capacity to an A319. So yes, Delta should be flying this route if they deem a larger aircraft necessary and their current flight is doing well.



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User currently offlineBDL757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4708 times:

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 2):
Delta shouldn't be flying this route.

Who should be flying this route?


User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

Quoting BDL757 (Reply 8):
Who should be flying this route?

duh... Emirates



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User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 672 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

Quoting BDL757 (Reply 8):
Who should be flying this route?

DL can fly whatever wherever it pleases, but AA really ought to be flying this route, alongside MCI-MIA. I have no idea why they haven't even tried these markets. LAX makes sense, especially on a S80, and they missed the boat to have the S80 vs. the E75. STL and MCI are legacy TWA strong markets, LAX-STL is still 3-4x S80, I'm positive AA would be successful with a 1x MCI flight, and again surely successful to connect MCI with its very powerful and expanding hub at MIA, which is altogether poorly connected to the Midwest.


User currently offlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 954 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 10):

DL can fly whatever wherever it pleases, but AA really ought to be flying this route, alongside MCI-MIA. I have no idea why they haven't even tried these markets

AA may have chosen not to fly this route as there is already competition out of MCI from WN, who has two flights a day in this market. DL has introduced more flying to mid-sized cities out of LAX recently, so this makes more sense for them. Also, an LAX-MCI flight would be contrary to the AA "cornerstone strategy" of building up their hubs, so I'm not sure where it would fit in.

Meanwhile, my guess is that this upgauge in equipment may be more about demand for the E75 in LGA to support the increase in flying to smaller markets while a mainline narrowbody may be more appropriate for LAX-MCI due to its stage length.


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5008 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 11):


Also, an LAX-MCI flight would be contrary to the AA "cornerstone strategy" of building up their hubs, so I'm not sure where it would fit in.

LAX is an AA cornerstone. Also a goodly number of AAdvantage members via the TWA acquisition, MCI-LAX/MIA would fit in well with AA's network.



Next Up: STL-LGA-RIC-ATL-STL
User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 10):
S80 vs. the E75.

Whaaah? The E75 is a much more comfortable aircraft IMO and I don't see flying on a MD80 as an more comfortable option.



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User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 672 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 13):
Whaaah? The E75 is a much more comfortable aircraft IMO and I don't see flying on a MD80 as an more comfortable option.

I get lots and lots of frequent flyers who go way out of their way to fly AA, in F, with a meal and AA service. Nothing rivals AA's domestic F product except other mainline products, and while the E75 is a nice ride and I applaud DL for the hard product they deliver in it, the FFs I deal with almost exclusively choose AA for the service. Can't get that on Compass.


User currently offlinekstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 748 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 13):
Whaaah? The E75 is a much more comfortable aircraft IMO and I don't see flying on a MD80 as an more comfortable option.
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 14):
I get lots and lots of frequent flyers who go way out of their way to fly AA, in F, with a meal and AA service.

I'd argue that in Y, I'd consider the E175 a much more comfortable aircraft. But F, no doubt the MD80 wins that battle.



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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2412 times:
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Quoting mhkansan (Reply 14):
I get lots and lots of frequent flyers who go way out of their way to fly AA, in F, with a meal and AA service. Nothing rivals AA's domestic F product except other mainline products, and while the E75 is a nice ride and I applaud DL for the hard product they deliver in it, the FFs I deal with almost exclusively choose AA for the service. Can't get that on Compass.

You have a point, it definitely isn't mainline, but DL has improved Compass' product in F and now offer catering which is similar to what AA & DL serve mainline form breakfast and lunch sans the nasty egg dish in the morning.

This would be a good route for AA to start with a A319.


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