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N674US Has Left The Desert After 50 Weeks!  
User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 465 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 27368 times:

Delta's ship #6314 (N674US) was removed from storage yesterday (05/19) after spending over 50 weeks in the desert. I assume it takes many hours of work to bring it back to operational service. What exactly would be undertaken to accomplish this?
Also is this the next aircraft to go to Singapore for interior mods?

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User currently offlinestrfyr51 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 1310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 27130 times:
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catching up on all the service checks and open inspections due, any Airworthiness inspections , the airplane has probably been "pickled" (preserved with covers and plugs) so the aircraft should be in decent shape as the Storage proceedures are going to arrest deterioration.. The engines will require high power runs and ground checks with all the systems exercised for leaks and operation. More than likely for a Ferry flight to where the pre-service work wil be accomplished..The work would not be a major deal unles the airplane had sustained damage.as even corrosion is slowed out in the desert where it's hot and Dry

User currently onlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 27031 times:

Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 1):
The engines will require high power runs

After they put them back on, of course.



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User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 26908 times:

So is this beautiful beast to add more capacity or swapping out for another aircraft to head to the desert?

User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3034 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 26352 times:

Is this what I just saw on the way to PHX a few hours ago when I was out running?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...0/history/20120520/1400Z/KMZJ/KPHX
If so, it's on its way to Anchorage now!



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7785 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 26302 times:

She flew right over my apartment and I missed seeing it   


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User currently onlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 26219 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
and I missed seeing it

Well, your screenname is PHX787, not PHX747.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12766 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 26192 times:

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User currently offlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 25881 times:

Why is it headed to ANC? Does Delta do a lot of their maintenance there, or is that where they usually do the procedures to put stored aircraft back into service? Or is it going somewhere else after it lands in ANC to have all of that work done?

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5876 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 25734 times:

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 8):
Does Delta do a lot of their maintenance there, or is that where they usually do the procedures to put stored aircraft back into service?

Goodness, no.
Greetings from ANC- Delta does NOTHING here. NWCargo used to have a large MX facility here, but it was shut down post-merger.
It's on its way somewhere else.


User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1134 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 25420 times:

Quoting audidudi (Thread starter):
Also is this the next aircraft to go to Singapore for interior mods?

There are two mods due out of SIN soon. Flightaware shows N668US enrte from JFK-NRT and then to SIN today and later tonight. It's possible that 674 could go nonstop from ANC to WSAP (PayaLebar) as one of the aircraft out of mods went the reverse route awhile back. The SIN-NRT flight on the 22nd shows a modified 744.

[Edited 2012-05-20 13:53:17]

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7785 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 25324 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 9):
It's on its way somewhere else.

It could be heading to NRT for repositioning, but I highly doubt that.



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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 25250 times:

Delta's ship #6306 (N666US) has been completed, and is to be followed by #6301 (N661US) later this month.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N666US

I'm sure that #6314 is on it's way to Paya Lebar Air Base in SIN.

[Edited 2012-05-20 14:07:16]

User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 24930 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 4):
Is this what I just saw on the way to PHX a few hours ago when I was out running?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...0/history/20120520/1400Z/KMZJ/KPHX
If so, it's on its way to Anchorage now!

Minor question: why would it stop in Phoenix on the way to Anchorage? If it's just going to be a positioning flight anyway. Would there be any paperwork or maintenance issues that could be done there but not at Marana?


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7785 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 24905 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 13):
Minor question: why would it stop in Phoenix on the way to Anchorage? If it's just going to be a positioning flight anyway. Would there be any paperwork or maintenance issues that could be done there but not at Marana?

Most likely businesswork that DL had to do that they could do at PHX. Also, a lot of planes stop over at PHX before going to Marana. Maybe better fuel services as well for the flight.



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2763 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 24586 times:

Quoting audidudi (Thread starter):
Delta's ship #6314 (N674US) was removed from storage yesterday (05/19) after spending over 50 weeks in the desert.

Oh Lord, how I wish somebody would send me to the desert for 50 weeks (paid leave, of course)   


User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 893 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 24494 times:

I'm curious why they would be taking this aircraft out of storage. Is there an operational need for additional 744s in service? How many more 744s does DL have in storage?

User currently offlineaztrainer From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 591 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 24400 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 4):
Is this what I just saw on the way to PHX a few hours ago when I was out running?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...0/history/20120520/1400Z/KMZJ/KPHX
If so, it's on its way to Anchorage now!

DAMN

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
She flew right over my apartment and I missed seeing it

Don't feel bad, I missed it too

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 14):
Maybe better fuel services as well for the flight.

I would go with the fuel as Marana does not have the turnover of fuel stores like PHX


User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1134 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 24178 times:

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 17):
I would go with the fuel as Marana does not have the turnover of fuel stores like PHX

& probably short runway 6800' + 5~6hrs flight time + 2000' elevation.

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 16):
How many more 744s does DL have in storage?

none


User currently offlinecf6ppe From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 22812 times:

With the subject aircraft needing four powerplants installed and several systems probably needing systems flushed and seals checked, I would imagine that one or more LAF(s) - local acceptance flights - need to be accomplished prior to turning the equipment loose for a third if tge way or so journey around the world.
Some of the previous comments have tried to explain that there is more than towing to the flight line, adding crew, and filing a flight plan.

I have no knowledge of how Delta does this return to service of stored equipment, but I have participated in gathering powerplants to enable several DC10s to be flown from the storage facility to a vendor modification facility.

anyway, my 2 cents. So starting the ferry to the vendor facility from PHX makes sense.


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21922 times:

I would be curious to know if the engines were removed prior to long-term storage on this aircraft. I know that when BA returns their B744s from MZJ to CWL, they take several weeks of maintenance work before returning to service; perhaps they are doing either a C or D Check after their long-term storage. I know that they get repainted after all that time in the sun as the paint definitely fades.

User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1217 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21500 times:

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 15):

It'll be 110°F tomorrow...I will gladly trade with you.


I'm happy to see airplanes flying out of Pinal to go back into service. MZJ was not a happy place for a few years.


User currently offlinephatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 21255 times:

Looks like the aircraft parked at gate 23 (right corner gate) in Terminal 3 in PHX for 1 1/2 hours before continuing on to ANC.

User currently offlineYukon880 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 19617 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 20):

Well I'm not sure about the engines but I can tell you that the paint doesn't look too bad.
It's not brand-new, but it's not terribly sunbaked either!



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7785 posts, RR: 18
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 17394 times:

Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 22):
Looks like the aircraft parked at gate 23 (right corner gate) in Terminal 3 in PHX for 1 1/2 hours before continuing on to ANC.
Quoting aztrainer (Reply 17):
Don't feel bad, I missed it too

Damn, I hope someone at PHX today got a shot of it.



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25 JAAlbert : Does Delta use its own pilots to fly the plane out of Marana? If so, how do they get their pilots to Marana? It's a bit of a drive from either TUS or
26 richierich : I would think DL uses their own pilots - they probably have a mechanic or two out there as well to make sure everything is a go before taking to the
27 PSU.DTW.SCE : This aircraft was parked in June 2011 when it was coming due for a D-check. N674US will be heading to Asia first for heavy maintenance and then for th
28 Post contains images rwy04lga : On a DC-9
29 cf6ppe : From airline planning and finance points of view, a parked B747 equals four spare powerplants. An airline/cargo carrier may choose to use the removed
30 Bottie : It's not that far by car, TUS-MZJ is +/- 45 minutes.
31 dlramp4life : Saw it yesterday at gate 23 when I was going into work...It caught me off guard... I was going to go up and see it but it already left...According to
32 4holer : Few questions: That flight number still hasn't left ANC. Is it still there or did it get a new flight number? Also: If it was empty, and I mean stripp
33 Post contains links audidudi : I couldn't find the ANC-SIN sector on FlightAware but here is the SIN-QPG flight. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9951
34 chrisair : It's a 45 minute drive from TUS or a 1:15 drive down from PHX (maybe more if they stopped at In n Out).
35 PHX787 : About 3 months ago I saw some UA pilots at the In-n-Out in Tempe and they were en route to MZJ.
36 dlramp4life : I would think fuel or maybe a crew change......
37 Post contains links CV880 : See DAL9971, PANC-WSAP, 22May http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...1/history/20120522/1700Z/PANC/WSAP N661US should come out of modification as the
38 Post contains links audidudi : N674US is due to leave ANC this morning and fly directly to QPG. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N674US Correction to my reply 33; there is anothe
39 FlyASAGuy2005 : I've been slacking..how many reconfigured a/c are currently in SERVICE? Ships numbers would help too. And as I understand it, 4 are in mods at the sa
40 panamair : Back in service: 5 Total Ships 6302, 6303, 6304, 6306, and 6310 In mods/starting: 4 Total Ships 6301, 6305, 6308, and 6314 Off-topic, looks like the
41 goosebayguy : Engines usually have inhibiting oil if stored for long periods. Usually short term storage will just require a ground run. I'm talking about 2-4 weeks
42 FlyASAGuy2005 : Thanks. They seem to be churning them out rather quickly. I was a little disappointed at what seemed like a slow-down in the 763 mods. Hopefully it p
43 cokepopper : Thanks for the info. To be clear the lower F/A bunks ARE installed on these a/c.
44 CV880 : Ship 6301 OEW has been changed to the modified ship weight as of today. 6305 is due out in about another 2 weeks, if all goes according to the 6-7wk
45 Post contains links audidudi : Ship 6301 (N661US) is all ready to return to the US tomorrow. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N661US
46 PHX787 : What's up with that weird route plan?
47 audidudi : I agree. It almost looks like it flies right over the northern part of North Korea, which would definitely be a NO-NO! A direct route of 6,673sm and
48 n7371f : Any idea what the new MTOW is?
49 panamair : It should be done before June 7 or 8 as that is when ATL-NRT is scheduled to transition from the 77L to the 74S (while LAX-NRT goes from the 74S to t
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