laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (12 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4410 times:
What happened here to this thread being about DL's 73Ws? It's not about DEN B-C gates, squeezing 5 gates into 4 and so on...
Back to topic. I was wondering if anyone knows why DL has swapped their 73Ws for A319s on ATL-MEX? Is it because those flying in this market don't demand the hard product offered on the DL 73Ws? Are they trying to keep the product consistent with AMs?
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 2, posted (12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4108 times:
Quoting chrisair (Reply 32): That old Eastern Airlines tunnel is gone? Damn. That was a great way to get between the B-C gates. It was desolate down there!
Yep. I mean it's still "there" but you can't access it anymore. It's sealed off frompax access and that's where the underground belt from B runs.
Quoting laca773 (Reply 33): Back to topic. I was wondering if anyone knows why DL has swapped their 73Ws for A319s on ATL-MEX? Is it because those flying in this market don't demand the hard product offered on the DL 73Ws? Are they trying to keep the product consistent with AMs?
Schedule changes pretty often. A 73W on ATL-MEX is a lot of airplane considering DL flights their Baby Boeings non-stop JFK-BOG.. Doesn't mean much of anything and it's most certainly not to mach hard product. They're putting them somewhere else for varying reasons.
A/C pairings is a very complex thing. Based on the summer schedule it may be easier for DL t schedule the 319s t MEX rather than he 73Ws based on where they're coming from.
But back on topic; this is just a rumor. DL is not gving up their 73Ws..
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mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9193 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4092 times:
Quoting laca773 (Reply 33): Back to topic. I was wondering if anyone knows why DL has swapped their 73Ws for A319s on ATL-MEX? Is it because those flying in this market don't demand the hard product offered on the DL 73Ws? Are they trying to keep the product consistent with AMs?
I thought the topic was if WN was getting DL's 73Ws?
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737tanker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 221 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3439 times:
Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 15): WN hasn't said one word to the Employees about Hawaii or any plans relating to Hawaii. Where did WN tell the Employees that (in case I missed it)?"
The only thing in writing that I've seen has been from FltOps management, and that concerned getting ETOPs certification and training for Hawaii. The number of aircraft for the Hawaiian service has come verbally from FltOps management that have been out on the line or who come to the daily recurrent pilot classes.
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 6, posted (12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3411 times:
Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 36): Where are you getting this information from?
I checked the schedule for a random day Aug, 22 and the schedule shows all 737-700s.
It goes to 3x 757 for the September schedule change on 9/5. 620 seats to about 540.
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DeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8589 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2898 times:
Quoting Josh32121 (Reply 27): Perhaps DL would make due without 73G's in that market by flying four daily 76-seat RJ's instead of 1 73G and two CRJ700's.
two things.
1) 2x 73W 1x CR7.
2) if they could make 4x CR9/E75 work better don't you think they would do so? You are talking about going from 33F to 48F and 280Y to 256Y. So this is a pretty big difference for a Florida city. My guess is the only good it would do is allow for more upgrades.
Quoting chrisair (Reply 32):
That old Eastern Airlines tunnel is gone? Damn. That was a great way to get between the B-C gates. It was desolate down there!
QANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1803 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (12 months 23 hours ago) and read 2830 times:
Quoting 737tanker (Reply 37): Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 15):
WN hasn't said one word to the Employees about Hawaii or any plans relating to Hawaii. Where did WN tell the Employees that (in case I missed it)?"
The only thing in writing that I've seen has been from FltOps management, and that concerned getting ETOPs certification and training for Hawaii. The number of aircraft for the Hawaiian service has come verbally from FltOps management that have been out on the line or who come to the daily recurrent pilot classes.
Oh, ok. 25 planes sounds good. WN will have that number of ETOPS -800s by this year, leaving all of 2013s deliveries for Mainland redeyes, longhauls, and Caribbean.
My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11708 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (12 months 18 hours ago) and read 2655 times:
Quoting laca773 (Reply 33): I was wondering if anyone knows why DL has swapped their 73Ws for A319s on ATL-MEX?
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 34): A 73W on ATL-MEX is a lot of airplane considering DL flights their Baby Boeings non-stop JFK-BOG..
Correct, DL uses their B-73Gs on both routes because the B-73G has better range and has better high/hot performance than the B-73H/W. IIRC, DL has about 10 B-73Gs with winglets. So they don't need the A-319s, which are a lot older and the B-73Gs are only about 5 years old.
columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6799 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (12 months 17 hours ago) and read 2575 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 41): So they don't need the A-319s, which are a lot older and the B-73Gs are only about 5 years old.
Age does not matter, especially with DL/NW Sometimes it even makes sense to sell newer planes to get money instead of older ones. AUA sold their A330/A340s and kept their 767s which were older.
I don´t know if there is any merit in this rumor but selling their 73Gs could make sense for both parties DL and SW. SW is getting rid of their 717s and would need more 737s anyway.
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
UIO, SNA(for now) then some domestic turns out of ATL. ATL-JFK/EWR I think are geting them right now, I have seen them go to DCA/IAD/CLE/IND and others.
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laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (12 months 2 hours ago) and read 1746 times:
Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 36): Where are you getting this information from?
I checked the schedule for a random day Aug, 22 and the schedule shows all 737-700s.
DTWLAX, check June and July dates for SNA-ATL as well. I see on delta.com, the majority of these flights will be 757s with 2 73Ws in the mix. This makes sense due to the busy summer season. I think the date you're looking at in August is at the tail end of the Summer schedule and it may already be reverting back to the slower Fall schedule. It seems each year, the Summer season gets shorter.
Quoting CO764 (Reply 43): If DL does get rid of its 73G's, will the 757's take over the JFK-BOG route or is it more likely to be an A319?
I don't think we'll see DL send the A319 on JFK/ATL-BOG. That's a international South American market and the A319s don't have the updated cabins the 73Ws and 757s they send to Northern South America. I think we'll see DL upgauge JFK/ATL-BOG to a 757 during the high season on each end as well as during the Winter Holidays, then will go back to a 73W.
jporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 358 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1610 times:
Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 45): UIO, SNA(for now) then some domestic turns out of ATL. ATL-JFK/EWR I think are geting them right now, I have seen them go to DCA/IAD/CLE/IND and others.
Why is the 738 used on routes to UIO? Is it a restriciton because of altitude/runway length, or is there just not enough demand for a 738 or 752? I believe DCA/IAD/CLE/IND are destinations for which DL substitutes 738s and other aircraft based on demand. I don't think there's any technical reason why DL needs the 73Gs on those routes. Therefore if the 73Ws are transferred to another airlines I think that DL would have no problem using other aircraft on those routes.
Quoting laca773 (Reply 46): the A319s don't have the updated cabins the 73Ws and 757s they send to Northern South America
Does DL use Airbus A320 family aircraft on any international routes? It seems to me that they preferred sending 73Ws (possibly 73Gs also?) and 738s internationally instead of A319s and A320s.
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9193 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1410 times:
OK........clarify something for me.......what is the designation for the 737-700/800?
I was thinking that the 700 was the 737G............
Quoting laca773 (Reply 46): It seems each year, the Summer season gets shorter.
Seems that now that there are no more printed timetables, scheduling is more flexible. Used to be that there were two major schedule changes, at the time change in spring and fall and some smaller ones around Labor Day, Thanksgiving, after the first of the year and around Memorial Day.
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1276 times:
Quoting mayor (Reply 48): I was thinking that the 700 was the 737G............
Thanks, but what is the 73G that is mentioned in the posts above? It seems that they're referring to the -700. If not, I can't see the reason getting rid of the -700s, as they are needed for those hot and high markets, which is why DL bought them.
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 19, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1232 times:
Quoting mayor (Reply 50): Thanks, but what is the 73G that is mentioned in the posts above?
73G is the IATA code for the 737-700 (without winglets).
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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6874 posts, RR: 29 Reply 21, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 836 times:
Quoting mayor (Reply 48): Seems that now that there are no more printed timetables, scheduling is more flexible. Used to be that there were two major schedule changes, at the time change in spring and fall and some smaller ones around Labor Day, Thanksgiving, after the first of the year and around Memorial Day.
DL tweaks it schedule down to the week when looking at individual frequencies and equipment.
That being said, the main summer schedule runs from 6/1 - 8/15. There is a significant pull-down in the schedule that kicks in around 8/15, which coincides with when many of the schools start to go back and is the end of the summer vacation season.
Quoting mayor (Reply 52): So, don't all of DL's -700s have winglets, making them 73Ws? DL would have NO 73Gs, then, correct?
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 749 times:
That's correct but it's generally understood that when someone says 73G they simply mean 737-700. Not really getting technical so to speak saying that DL has 737s w/o winglets.
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Sometimes it even makes sense to sell newer planes to get money instead of older ones. AUA sold their A330/A340s and kept their 767s which were older. 
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