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Yakutia Airlines Launches Anchorage-Kamchatka  
User currently onlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2915 posts, RR: 6
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9389 times:

I've never heard of this airline. Launching once weekly PKC-ANC. According to release, it is focusing on tourism. I thought there would be oil traffic as well.

http://www.examiner.com/article/yaku...amchatka-russia-s-adventure-region

When was the last time there was scheduled Alaska-Russia Far East service? In the 1980s with AS? I am curious about the chances of success for this route.

[Edited 2012-05-26 08:18:32]

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User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 9279 times:

Vladivostok Air is also starting service from Anchorage to Petropavlovsk. Here is a link to their website: http://1iny.com/88781/


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2993 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 9257 times:

Quoting Cush (Reply 1):
Vladivostok Air is also starting service from Anchorage to Petropavlovsk.

I believe it's the same service--Vladivostok is codesharing on Yakutia's flight.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24894 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 9227 times:

Yes they got DOT approval bit back.

At the time they said they would do flying 1x weekly with 132 seat 737-700 and if demand warranted shift to 757.



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User currently offlinesancho99504 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 569 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 9172 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Thread starter):
When was the last time there was scheduled Alaska-Russia Far East service? In the 1980s with AS? I am curious about the chances of success for this route.

SU flew KHV-ANC-SEA-SFO-SEA-ANC-KHV and VVO-ANC-SEA-LAX-SEA-ANC-VVO up until 2002. VVO was IL62 until 06/2001 then switched to TU154. KHB was mixed between IL62 and TU154 until the end.



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User currently offlinecargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1261 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 9159 times:

Quoting sancho99504 (Reply 4):

SU flew KHV-ANC-SEA-SFO-SEA-ANC-KHV and VVO-ANC-SEA-LAX-SEA-ANC-VVO up until 2002. VVO was IL62 until 06/2001 then switched to TU154. KHB was mixed between IL62 and TU154 until the end.

Would that mean that SEA was the only US lower 48 city to have seen scheduled Tu-154 service? Too bad I missed those days.


User currently offlineoneskyjet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 84 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 9106 times:

Quoting cargolex (Reply 5):
Quoting cargolex (Reply 5):
Would that mean that SEA was the only US lower 48 city to have seen scheduled Tu-154 service? Too bad I missed those days.

No. Guyana Airways operated 154s to JFK back in the late 80s.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24917 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9004 times:

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 2):
Quoting Cush (Reply 1):
Vladivostok Air is also starting service from Anchorage to Petropavlovsk.

I believe it's the same service--Vladivostok is codesharing on Yakutia's flight.

It's highly seasonal. Only 10 flights, once a week from mid-July to mid-September.


User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1091 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8905 times:

It is so nice to hear this is being brought back online again...

Geographically it makes alot of sense and connects the great land bridge. I don't believe there are any public ferries that would cross...

Quoting BigGSFO (Thread starter):
According to release, it is focusing on tourism

Yes and as such they will probably be able to price it accordingly. People would pay big bucks. I've heard PKC is a staggering land of unimaginable beauty.

Quoting BigGSFO (Thread starter):
In the 1980s with AS?

I have very fond memories of Michael Palin and his camera crew checking in the for flight on his Great Circle documentary series. . .

Which makes me thing - How did Ewan Magregor and Charlie Boorman cross the gulf on their long way round travel programme?



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24917 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8878 times:

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 8):
Quoting BigGSFO (Thread starter):
In the 1980s with AS?

I have very fond memories of Michael Palin and his camera crew checking in the for flight on his Great Circle documentary series. . .

Scroll to about the 6:40 mark here for that footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5o-BekOlb0


User currently offlineshanderawx From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8715 times:
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Reeve Aleutian Airlines flew regularly from Anchorage to Petropavlosk and Yuzhno-Sakhalin until their bankruptcy in December, 2000, I took their last flight, was left stranded on Sakhalin, had to come home to IAH via Moscow on Domodedovo, then Lufthansa.

User currently onlinejamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 541 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8568 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
Scroll to about the 6:40 mark here for that footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5o-BekOlb0

"And how many bags are you checking in?"

"Er, 43..."

  


User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8354 times:

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 12):
whole different calibre of Palins.

Amen to that!   

Quoting BigGSFO (Thread starter):
According to release, it is focusing on tourism.

Does this mean that the U.S. and Russia may start easing their visa policies towards one another? I've never tried, but I've heard that getting a visa in either direction is a very daunting task...if they're trying to stimulate tourism, either that's going to need to change (if what I've heard is correct) or this isn't going to go very well...



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User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6744 times:

Quoting warden145 (Reply 14):
I've never tried, but I've heard that getting a visa in either direction is a very daunting task.

I wouldn't call getting a Russian visa daunting; time consuming, expensive and a pain in the ass, yes! Daunting no! Or is is that different for Americans?

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User currently offlinesancho99504 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 569 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6589 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 15):

it was a pain in the tail getting a visa in russia........



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User currently offlineAS77W From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6477 times:

I was excited to see another aircraft type coming into ANC, but as mentioned before the flight will be operated by a B737-700. Seasonal service July 12-Sept 13 2012. Scheduled arrival time Thursdays at 0550, departing same day at 0730.

User currently offline2a674 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6337 times:

Actually, Sarah Palin NEVER said that. That famous line was uttered by TINA FEY, an actress on the TV comedy (?) "Saturday Night Live" portraying Mrs. Palin.

User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5941 times:

Quoting shanderawx (Reply 11):
Reeve Aleutian Airlines flew regularly from Anchorage to Petropavlosk and Yuzhno-Sakhalin until their bankruptcy in December, 2000, I took their last flight, was left stranded on Sakhalin, had to come home to IAH via Moscow on Domodedovo, then Lufthansa.

Wow, that's quite a detour. Suddenly being bumped from, say, LGA to EWR doesn't sound so bad...


User currently offlineplanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5850 times:

To take this flight isn't cheap. I just queired the Yakutia website for flights in July and August and the cheapest economy fare is
USD$ 2,416 round-trip (for a 4.5 hour trip on a 737). This would make it seem that the target pax isn't the leasure traveler.


User currently offlinewoodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1029 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5801 times:

Remember when that Aeroflot IL-62 had its tail clipped by an Asiana 744 in Anchorage? That poor IL62 never flew again, was moved to an area near the Everts Ops are and slowly rotted away next to C-119s until it was finally scrapped in the early 2000s.

For years there was an check-in desk and placard in the N Terminal at ANC for Magadan Air, listed a once weekly departure for Magadan but all the times I was at the N Terminal coming or going on DL, never saw anyone at that counter and never saw any Magadan Air plane in ANC.


User currently offlinesancho99504 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 569 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5562 times:

Quoting woodsboy (Reply 21):

I was working the IL62 that got clipped......1999 IIRC, OZ was trying to turn into gate, slid on ice and wedge left wing into base of vertical stab.... as far as magadan airlines, they operated 1 or 2 flights and that was it, they never came back



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User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1091 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4811 times:

Quoting planenutz (Reply 20):
USD$ 2,416 round-trip (for a 4.5 hour trip on a 737). This would make it seem that the target pax isn't the leasure traveler.

I'm not sure. I would suspect that means it is for leisure.

That is high-spending/ luxury adventure tourism. Alot of it at the moment (e.g. all the Antarctic cruises etc.)

Otherwise what other market would there be (oil is unlikely to be operating in the region) ?

Quoting warden145 (Reply 14):
the U.S. and Russia may start easing their visa policies towards one another?

Doubt it... I suspect the tourists that would visit would be neither Russian nor. American.



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User currently offlineB2468 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3678 times:

Quoting warden145 (Reply 12):
Does this mean that the U.S. and Russia may start easing their visa policies towards one another?

Hasn't there been talk recently that Russia wants to start a visa-free tourist travel regime with the United States in order to stimulate tourism? I heard that the only reason it isn't implemented is that Russian law requires the other country to reciprocate the visa-free travel for Russian citizens, and the US State Dept has said that Russia does not yet qualify for consideration for entry into the Visa Waiver Program.

It'd be cool if visa-free travel for tourists between the USA and Russia happens, though. I'd love to visit Russia!



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User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

Quoting B2468 (Reply 22):
It'd be cool if visa-free travel for tourists between the USA and Russia happens, though. I'd love to visit Russia!

Agreed completely! I have some friends in Russia I'd like to meet, and I've heard that there are some areas that are absolutely beautiful...



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