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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2356 posts, RR: 21
Posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8074 times:

Hello All:

Those of you around JFK will get a rare treat, SWA
7407 should be arriving into JFK as a charter flight within the hour.


ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8050 times:
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Nasty weather in the area, maybe it'll divert to EWR, lol.   

Who they flying?


User currently offlinecatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7932 times:
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http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA7047

Military Charter I would assume.


User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7920 times:

Yuck!!! I like that JFK is a WN-free airport. As fxramper said, hopefully it will divert to EWR.


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User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3084 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7859 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 3):
Yuck!!! I like that JFK is a WN-free airport. As fxramper said, hopefully it will divert to EWR.

Mhmmm, sure you do.  



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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2356 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7588 times:

Anyone get any pictures of this? I don't think a WN 737 has visited JFK since 1996..


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User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7399 times:

Wonder if its for Memorial Day and Fleet Week. Lots doing here in NYC. Of course it could just be a regular military charter but WN into JFK is odd. I mean they have personal at EWR and LGA... why fly into JFK???


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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7367 times:

Does the airport hold a batch of slots for one time charters and misc flights?

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 4):
Mhmmm, sure you do.

Oh trust me. I do.



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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 843 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6394 times:
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Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 3):




I just don't understand that comment? I will tell you, I have worked for WN as a mech. since 2000, I also worked for repair stations for the previous 10 years, and before that I spent 10 years working for the United States Marine Corps working F4's and F-18s.

Now how long have you been in the Aviation business? Is this your career (it is mine) or is it just a ways to a means. As you can see with me it is a career, I think 30 years of aviation maintenance makes it a career.

Where are you in the scheme of things?

I am not trying to be rude, just trying to put things in perspective. 30 years v ?.

I do not and never have slammed other airlines. Look back through my posts. Do I think they are all great? Absolutely not. Is this the place to say so. Not in my opinion. Tell the truth and abide by the golden rule. Later.


User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1205 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6271 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 8):

I sensed a bit of sarcasm in his comment, but maybe that's just me.

Either way, time spent in a career is fairly irrelevant to his opinion on your (or any) airline. You certainly have a right to defend it should you choose to do so, but in the case of a sarcastic and otherwise opinionated comment, I'm not sure what there is to defend.

I'm not trying to get in the middle of anything here, merely trying to defend humorous and/or opinionated comments in this forum, as the aviation industry is my career  


Back on topic, I'm not sure this is as surprising or noteworthy as it may have been a few years ago...as in, before WN abandoned its long-standing policy of avoiding the black hole that is NYC airspace. Still interesting, nonetheless. There will be some very confused faces at JFK.


User currently offlinemark777300 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6133 times:

OK. well that explains the blue belly 737 that flew over my house earlier today. It looked like it was Southwest but when I noticed it was flying to JFK I thought that it was either a diversion or something else that wasn't Southwest. Any unusual visitors to JFK is always a welcomed sight. I still haven't got use to the sight of SWA flying into LGA.

User currently offlinePDX88 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6041 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 8):

There are numerous threads bashing AA, UA, etc. without care, but people get so defensive when WN gets some negativity. Not everyone is going to like your airline.


User currently offlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5794 times:

Is the aircraft still at JFK, or has it been flown out of there? Because it was a military charter, did it taxi to a gate or were the passengers disembarked at a private ramp?

User currently offlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5464 times:

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 12):
Is the aircraft still at JFK, or has it been flown out of there?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...7/history/20120526/2100Z/KJFK/KDAL



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User currently onlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4647 times:

WN can look at B6 T5 and think about the biggest mistake that airline has made to date: choosing ISP over JFK. That could be all theirs right now...B6 wouldn't even exist as we know it.

That said, good to see them at JFK. It's a shame they don't start service to a few of their "hubs" from Kennedy.


User currently offlineJBfan1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4500 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 14):
WN can look at B6 T5 and think about the biggest mistake that airline has made to date: choosing ISP over JFK. That could be all theirs right now...B6 wouldn't even exist as we know it.

That said, good to see them at JFK. It's a shame they don't start service to a few of their "hubs" from Kennedy.

As the old saying goes........"you snooze you lose." Besides, JFK is slot restricted and wouldn't accept any other carriers unless they fly off peak...... Personally speaking B6 would crush SWA if they tried to enter JFK....... B6 much better product.


User currently offlineskycub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4258 times:

Quoting JBfan1 (Reply 15):
Personally speaking B6 would crush SWA if they tried to enter JFK....... B6 much better product.

Unless, of course, you want to get to Spokane, Boise, Ontario, Orange County, Albuquerque, El Paso, Amarillo, Midland/Odessa, Lubbock, Harlingen, Corpus Christi, Omaha, Oklahoma CIty, Tulsa, Little Rock, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Minneapolis/Saint Paul, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Columbus, Louisville, Nashville, Birmingham, Jackson, Atlanta, Panama City, Greenville/Spartanburg, Charleson, Norfolk...

 


User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

Quoting JBfan1 (Reply 15):
Personally speaking B6 would crush SWA if they tried to enter JFK....... B6 much better product.

Not really...with JFK existing as its hub, history has seen bad weather shut down ops, thus creating a level of unreliabitiy, at best, late departures/ arrivals while on the other hand WN has NY options and contiues to grind through the bad weather...on time.


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3595 times:
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...it was a military charter? Why not fly into EWR where they have ground handling?

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 8):

Take a chill pill. Everyone can have an opinion or offer sarcasm on the site from time to time. Just cause I post on this site how inconsistent United is and how much I hate their operation at DEN is doesn't mean I won't fly the airline or defend it when necessary.  


User currently offlineluvfa From United States of America, joined May 2005, 446 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Quoting JBfan1 (Reply 15):

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 14):
WN can look at B6 T5 and think about the biggest mistake that airline has made to date: choosing ISP over JFK. That could be all theirs right now...B6 wouldn't even exist as we know it.

That said, good to see them at JFK. It's a shame they don't start service to a few of their "hubs" from Kennedy.

As the old saying goes........"you snooze you lose." Besides, JFK is slot restricted and wouldn't accept any other carriers unless they fly off peak...... Personally speaking B6 would crush SWA if they tried to enter JFK....... B6 much better product.

Another saying, hindsight is always 20/20 vision. The airline environment was totally different in 1999 as it is today! Back then, you had the legacies and then SWA which was the LCC! Jetblue didn't exist and Airtran was tiny! Our philosophy was secondary airport, savings, increased traffic! Today the environment is different, thats why you see us in NYC, BOS, DCA, (soon). Based on what's happened, if SWA management had a crystal ball, yes, they would have opted for JFK. However in 40 years the company has made more hits than misses; this is one of those misses!


User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

Quoting skycub (Reply 16):
Unless, of course, you want to get to Spokane, Boise, Ontario, Orange County, Albuquerque, El Paso, Amarillo, Midland/Odessa, Lubbock, Harlingen, Corpus Christi, Omaha, Oklahoma CIty, Tulsa, Little Rock, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Minneapolis/Saint Paul, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Columbus, Louisville, Nashville, Birmingham, Jackson, Atlanta, Panama City, Greenville/Spartanburg, Charleson, Norfolk...

isn't that the routing you take to get to Norfolk from Spokane?



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User currently onlinemcg From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 814 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 20):
Quoting skycub (Reply 16):
Unless, of course, you want to get to Spokane, Boise, Ontario, Orange County, Albuquerque, El Paso, Amarillo, Midland/Odessa, Lubbock, Harlingen, Corpus Christi, Omaha, Oklahoma CIty, Tulsa, Little Rock, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Minneapolis/Saint Paul, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Columbus, Louisville, Nashville, Birmingham, Jackson, Atlanta, Panama City, Greenville/Spartanburg, Charleson, Norfolk...

isn't that the routing you take to get to Norfolk from Spokane?

Yes, but you only have to change planes twice!


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1964 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 14):
That said, good to see them at JFK. It's a shame they don't start service to a few of their "hubs" from Kennedy.

I think WN will start up JFK soon. Like you said, 10-15 flts to MDW, LAS, PHX, MCO, HOU, LAX, etc... I can definitely see it happening.



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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 20):
isn't that the routing you take to get to Norfolk from Spokane?

  Hilarious.

Quoting JBfan1 (Reply 15):
B6 much better product.

I've flown B6 before. They're a good airline. Not sure I'd say they have a better product though. It's Southwest with a TV, blue potato chips and no elite program.


User currently offlinemark777300 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

I don't think that you will see SWA coming to JFK. with the slots that SWA is getting from AirTran at LGA, service to EWR and ISP, they already will have what they need to serve the NY area. I don't see them leaving ISP. I recently used them between ISP and FLL round trip, and both flights were completely booked. Granted, it was a holiday weekend, but that was the most crowded I have ever seen ISP get. Many folks out on Long Island will not treck to JFK or LGA to fly. Many of them fly to Florida which is served well by SWA at ISP. It would be nice to see them at JFK someday, but it probably won't happen anytime soon.

25 jporterfi : Any chance WN could enter the JFK market by trading some slots with DL as part of the 717 deal? Or is DL, because of its hub status at JFK, unlikely t
26 Flytravel : WN probably wouldn't fly Carribean or transcons so wouldn't like B6 at JFK. Even for Florida service, the IFE approach (such as no in flight TV, but
27 JBfan1 : Actually, I believe DL is expanding LGA so they will move most of their domestic flights out of JFK and concentrate soley international out of JFK...
28 Post contains images mayor : Well, they've got to have SOME domestic feed for the international operation at JFK, don't they?
29 JBfan1 : I am sure they will keep some, however not as much frequency as they do now....... who knows, in this industry anything can happen.
30 mayor : I don't think DL's international ops at JFK could survived on O&D alone, do you? It would be just another PanAm operation, in that case.
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