B738FlyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 15856 times:
From CH-Avition Newsletter this morning (29.05.2012) was reading about that AirAustral (UU) that placed a order for 2 A380 in 2009 will cancel there order:
Quote: Air Austral (UU, St. Denis de la Réunion Roland Garros (RUN)) has announced that it will cancel its order for two A380-800s originally placed in 2009. It had planned to use the aircraft in a full Economy Class configuration with 840 seats which would have allowed it to have a significant cost per seat advantage over its competitors between Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG) and St. Denis de la Réunion Roland Garros (RUN).
anfromme From Germany, joined Feb 2012, 743 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14461 times:
They've been contemplating a deferral/cancellation for a while now, having been unable to take delivery of a new 777-200LR as they couldn't pay for it. (They're apparently trying to sell the plane straight away, rather than taking delivery once they can pay for it.)
9MMPQ From Netherlands, joined Nov 2011, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12932 times:
To be honest most of us here already had a hard time seeing this coming to life without the economics of today. Perhaps the fact the plug is pulled now could be seen as something beneficial from our economic world today.
I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don't trust coincidences.
SepulTALLICA From Niger, joined Sep 2009, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12807 times:
I always struggled with this airline and its business model.
I can remember them flying to Joburg and Harare with their 733s back in the 90s. Then hearing that they had 777s on order was a real eye opener 'cos i had always figured UU was a small time carrier eking out a niche for itself in a podunk part of the French empire.
Is their focus market that of Reunion in itself, in which case, is there enough demand for full 777s let alone 800 seat A380s?
Or are they focussed more on being feeders to Oz, Caledonia, Mauritius and the Comoros?
oneworld77 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12614 times:
Interesting link anfromme....interesting to see UU operating RUN-MAA-BKK on a 737-800!! Bit like that Bangladeshi Carrier (was it United Airways) which used to operate LGW-IST-XXX-DAC on an MD80!
UU have always been good and the CDG-RUN-SYD was a great alternative to the usual kangaroo option. Great service - empty flight. I've always wondered why MK and UU havn't exploited their options. Although at the bottom end of the market, I'm sure there would be a market who would prefer to sun on the beach/pool in RUN or MRU than sweat it out in SIN or BKK enroute to SYD.
something From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11912 times:
I can't help but think this is only half the story. RUN is not even serviced by EK, so that a passenger flux to cheaper operations could be assumed.
Didn't France subsidize air travel between their oversea departments, or whatever these territories are legally refered to? Having these subsidies terminated alone should kill off travel to these markets substantially, as it is almost entirely sub-low yielding.
Long term, I could see AF's humorously dense configured 77W to be the only survivor on the route. If EK enters the market, and the market becomes unsubsidized, they won't probably be able to keep that up on a daily basis.
goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1993 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10424 times:
Of course the current economic climate and price of kerosene do not help, but the main responsible of this situation is UU with their crazy and irrational money-bleeding routes like RUN-BKK, RUN-SYD-NOU. I'm sure they would have been able to fill a high density A380 on CDG-RUN.
nicode From France, joined May 2012, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 10267 times:
Quoting something (Reply 7): Long term, I could see AF's humorously dense configured 77W to be the only survivor on the route. If EK enters the market, and the market becomes unsubsidized, they won't probably be able to keep that up on a daily basis.
Corsair is also on ORY-RUN on a daily basis with their high density 744.
It is also possible to reach RUN via MRU from CDG.
Nothing confirming that they have cancelled (so far), besides CH-Aviation, but there is the lengthy article I included in my first post in this thread which did quote Air Austral as saying that they intend to defer or cancel their order, with a definitive decision to be made by the end of June (pending discussions with Airbus).