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Turkish Airlines Employees On Strike  
User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5050 times:

Although this was posted in Turkish Aviation May 2012, I think it deserves its own thread.

Almost all TK cabin crew have gone on strike because TK management have been lobbying politicians to pass a bill that makes it illegal for employees in the airline industry to go on strike. TK's website is also down.

The only English article I could find for the time being:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tur...pageID=238&nid=21841&NewsCatID=347

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User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4691 times:

Some news agencies report that TK fired those 100-150 employees, because they were on strike. How true is that?

User currently offlinebahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1772 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4569 times:

For lack of a better word, this is not a strike, but it's a sick out.. Right now, there is about 200 people that have been fired with text messages to their phones (source turkish media)

I love it how the government is trying to take away bargaining and strike rights of workers with a super fast bill introduced to the general assembly but they haven't passed a bill for more than a decade to define the workers rights in aviation.

I have the full support for my brothers and sisters in TK.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26846 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4424 times:

Ouch thats not good especially given the size of traffic they handle . Hope its sorted out , the busy tourist season has started.

More links here :

Turkish Airlines flights hit as staff report ill

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkish Airlines had to cancel flights on Tuesday, after being hit by staff reporting ill in a protest at a draft law which would make it illegal for aviation workers to strike.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSLNE84S02G20120529?irpc=932

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[Edited 2012-05-29 09:22:33]

User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4125 times:

Honestly, I think the employees are just fighting for their rights. It's wrong of TK to fire them over this. Couldn't this hurt morale of the remaining employees? What are they thinking?

User currently offlinehhslax2 From Bahrain, joined Jan 2012, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

I guess they need to get some red X stickers to put over the faces of fired employees on the special livery 737.

User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3658 times:

Can they fire them legally?? OK, the strike must be legal and coordinated with the employee's union to avoid wild strikes. But if they are "ill", i guess management cannot proove that they were on strike.

User currently offlineNorthstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 6):
Can they fire them legally

They cant. If the fired employee files a lawsuit he/she will get indemnified and will have a right to be placed back to his/her job. At this point people usually get additional indemnification and chose not to go back to their jobs. Happens all the time, Turkish labor law is strong from this aspect.



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User currently offlineAirCanada787 From Canada, joined Nov 2010, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

Does anyone have any idea about how long this could go on for? I know its hard to tell for sure I just have a friend flying with them in a few days from Doha who is wondering if they should (or even can) change their ticket.

[Edited 2012-05-30 20:26:29]


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User currently offlineBoeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...strikes-anatolia-news-reports.html

Well it seems like government has passed the bill making this strike illegal.



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User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

Quoting AirCanada787 (Reply 8):
Does anyone have any idea about how long this could go on for?

According to some posts over at FlyerTalk things are running pretty close to normal right now with only a few cancelled flights yesterday.

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 9):
it seems like government has passed the bill

This sets a bad precedent for all workers in Turkey, IMO.


User currently onlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4383 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

So far 260 TK and 45 TK technic employees are fired, 230+ of flights are cancelled, TK's loss at around 2M financially.

User currently onlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4383 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

It gets interesting, TK to sue the 305 fired employees for 2M TL for damages according to Milliyet daily newspaper.
TK not only firing them but humiliating them with firing via text messages and now a lawsuit.
Whatever the case, TK is not gaining from this.


User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

Maybe supreme court will reject this bill as it is against the constitutional right of strike. This is unbelievable.

I hope responsible management will have to bear the consequences. But i don't think so. TK is ruled like the private company of the current government... Let's not forget the government placed the current management there without them having any experience in aviation industry. Running such a company is not comparable to IETT. And firing this employees is either stupid or a power game. Or a welcome chance of getting rid of some "annoying" staff.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Outlawing strikes is hardly a new thing. Lots of countries have regulations that do not allow for strikes or lockouts in various industries including aviation – now Turkey has done the same.

Instead nations adopt various forms of back to work legislation that while declaring formal strike actions illegal alternately provide means for things like binding arbitration instead. There are benefits to this, including for the workers, as things like company lockouts also become illegal. Goal is to keep parties talking, or provide for alternate means for settlement that having the either the company or the employees force their views via a lockout or strike.

Anyhow for the TK employees that decided to walk off from work this week, they should indeed be treated harsly.
Such wildcat actions cannot be tolerated, and either the individuals needs to be punished, or of this was formally organized event then their union Hava-Is should bear responsibility for condoning such actions.



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