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Final Lap For AeroSvit?  
User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9758 times:

According to Check-in.dk, Aerosvit's newest Boeing 737-800 was refused to leave KEF after refueling on its delivery flight from Boeing to AeroSvit in Ukraine. The article states that Boeing refused to hand over the aircraft to AeroSvit due to payment issues and that the aircraft was grounded on Iceland.
UR-AAO

AEW251 @ 2012-05-30 06:26 CET from KBP to VNO.
AEW252 @ 2012-05-30 06:20 CET from VNO to KBP.
AEW2701 @ 2012-05-26 03:10 CET from BFI to KEF.

Both Cimber Sterling and Skyways went bankrupt this month, drastically reducing Kolomoysky’s airline imperium. With this recent incident and the reports of increasingly challenging economical performance for AeroSvit, is this the beginning of the end for the airline?



[Edited 2012-05-30 01:35:02]

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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9709 times:

Isn't the airline still partly owned by the Ukraine?

I would expect Air Baltic to go under long before Aerosvit.



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2404 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9666 times:

I wonder if Kolomoysky will close down all of the airlines that he owns. As far as I know, Windrose is a profitable airline. Dont know about Donbassaero and Dniproavia though.

[Edited 2012-05-30 01:23:02]

User currently offlinesmbukas From Lithuania, joined Feb 2009, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9620 times:

As far as I know, Donbassaero and Dniproavia was merged to Aerosvit and now they are one airline.

If Aerosvit will stop operations before EURO2012, it should become an issue with the connections to EURO2012 cities. European airlines will hardly can fill up the gaps due to quite strict bilateral agreements and "Wizz Air Ukraine" or "Ukraine International" technically will have no capacity.

Anyway, I do not see Ukraine government should let die Aerosvit.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2404 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9605 times:

Quoting smbukas (Reply 3):

What do you mean by that? They do a lot of codeshare flights for each other, but they are still separate airlines owned by the same owner to my knowledge


User currently offlinesmbukas From Lithuania, joined Feb 2009, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9605 times:

And yes - new B738 UR-AAO made a rotation KBP-VNO-KBP last night. So maybe it was more procedure issue why it could be stopped in KEF.

User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9566 times:

Quoting something (Reply 1):
Isn't the airline still partly owned by the Ukraine?



From what I have read and understand, it is a private airline owned by the "Private Group" through Mansvell Enterprises Ltd and the Ukrainian businessman Ihor Kolomoyskyi who also owned Skyways and Cimber Sterling.

Ukraine International Airlines however was a state owned airline untill 2011 until the goverment sold out its 61.6% stake in the airline to UIA Beteiligungsgesellschaft mbH (59%), UIA Holding (26%), and Capital Investment Project (15%).


User currently offlinesmbukas From Lithuania, joined Feb 2009, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9566 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 4):
What do you mean by that? They do a lot of codeshare flights for each other, but they are still separate airlines owned by the same owner to my knowledge

I saw their strategy document were those three airlines should finally merge in 2011. I am not sure was finalized or not, but , for example, network management and sales management teams were totally merged.

I know, that their had some branding challenges, because Dniproavia and Donbassaero were "pride" brands of Ukraine regions so they decided to leave that and make similar (but different colorite) aircraft paintings.

It could it be financially one airline with a few AOCs?


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2404 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9543 times:

Quoting smbukas (Reply 7):

Well I am a pilot in the AeroSvit group, and AFAIK, they are still separate airlines. I am however, able to get ID tickets in the entire AeroSvit network


User currently offlineDahlgardo From Denmark, joined Sep 2004, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8536 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Thread starter):
Both Cimber Sterling and Skyways went bankrupt this month, drastically reducing Kolomoysky’s airline imperium. With this recent incident and the reports of increasingly challenging economical performance for AeroSvit, is this the beginning of the end for the airline?

Last week an AeroSvit flight from CPH to KBP was reportedly denied leaving the gate at CPH due to unpaid airport fees.
It left CPH with some hours delay. AeroSvit does still operate into CPH, so they must have worked out the problem.

I don't know if it's final lap for AeroSvit, but it seems they are fairly cash-strapped at the moment.

It would be a major embarresment for Ukraine if the largest airline in the country should close down up to, or during EURO2012.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7471 times:

I hope they don't, aside of the travel chaos this would cause for Ukraine I've booked flights on them for September. Pretty concerning news tbh.


Dan  



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User currently offlinegothamspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6769 times:

How did they leave Seattle without paying for the plane? Something doesn't add up.

User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3547 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5542 times:
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title transfer and payment can happen anywhere Boeing and the customer agree on for tax or other auspicious reasons.. so maybe they asked for an Iceland delivery and didn't show up with the check.

User currently offlinetommyy From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

The Ukrainian government owns 22 percent

http://en.ria.ru/business/20120504/173224996.html


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

Quoting gothamspotter (Reply 11):
How did they leave Seattle without paying for the plane? Something doesn't add up.

Indeed. The "source" is clearly a load of old BS. The delivery flight left KEF as normal according to flight plan info:

ARCID/AEW2701
KBFI-BIKF-UKBB
REG/URAAO ACFT/B738 SEL/CQAS.

Nothing out of ordinary whatsoever.

[Edited 2012-05-30 23:31:04]

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