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Plane Incident At Chicago - O'Hare 5/30/12  
User currently offlineJet13 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 29185 times:

Hi All,
A buddy of mine at ORD took a picture and apparently you can see a plane collided somehow.

Here's a link to the picture that I'm seeing. http://www.worldwideairlines.net/images/ordaccident.jpg

Can anyone confirm what's going on?

Mods, I apologize if i was not supposed to put a link.

Good day,
Nick

[Edited 2012-05-30 11:56:12]


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User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 29225 times:

Looks like a wing clip but what did it clip??? Looks like an Eagle plane tail right next to the wing. Maybe it hit that.


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User currently offlineB738FlyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 29024 times:
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Quoting contrails15 (Reply 1):
Looks like a wing clip but what did it clip???

Is also my first impression. Remembers about the AF A380 in JFK if that is really the case!! So will wait for more news!!


User currently offlineatcsundevil From Germany, joined Mar 2010, 1199 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 28733 times:

As a minor point -- a wing clip would generally be categorized as an "incident", not an accident. An accident implies loss of life or serious structural damage. An incident is just any noteworthy event that has generally caused damage to the aircraft or caused injuries.


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User currently offlineFlyAAS80 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 28751 times:

Here is confirmation of the event from local media (WLS) and includes some additional pictures:

"May 30, 2012 (CHICAGO) (WLS) -- A 747 airliner clipped the tail of a regional jet at O'Hare International Airport this afternoon causing some damage to the aircrafts. An American Eagle regional jet and a cargo aircraft made contact on the ground.

O'Hare Airport officials say, around 1 p.m., American Eagle 4265 from Springfield, Missouri, landed and was taxiing to the gate as EVA Air cargo aircraft Flight 661 from Anchorage, Alaska, was on the taxiway. Somehow the two aircraft made contact.

The Chicago Fire Department says there are no reports of injuries at this time."

Source: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8682072



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User currently offlinefutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2602 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 28687 times:

A buddy of mine was working an ExpressJet ERJ taxiing right behind the 747, he said they tried to get the 747 to stop but by the time they realized the wing wouldn't clear and got on the radio it was too late.


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User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 28524 times:

Not the first time this has happened. ORD should really start routing VLA's away from the E through K concourses or at least keep them off the inner taxiway, which is taxiway "A" I believe.

User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2699 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 28423 times:

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 2):
Remembers about the AF A380 in JFK

So in terms of regional jets it's now 2 : 1 for the B 747

B 747: Air France ERJ + ExpressJet ERJ
A 380: DL CRJ

But hey, the game is not yet over.  


User currently offlineJet13 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 28323 times:

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 3):
As a minor point -- a wing clip would generally be categorized as an "incident", not an accident. An accident implies loss of life or serious structural damage. An incident is just any noteworthy event that has generally caused damage to the aircraft or caused injuries.

Updated just in time before the 60min edit limit.

I actually have 2 buddies there right now and the other one doesn't see it yet. He will send me a better picture if he finds it as he walks otherwise its cleared up.

Thanks to you all for putting information in  

-Nick



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User currently offlineB738FlyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 28198 times:
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Quoting Jet13 (Reply 8):
Thanks to you all for putting information in

That is okay Nick... most important nobody was hurt as we know what can happen when you remember the AF 380 in JFK!!! Was checking avherald.com but simply a little early!!! Seams the live stream from FlyAAS80 is still running!!! Simply towing a LH 744 now... x my fingers!

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 7):
But hey, the game is not yet over.

Yeah!! But I think that for today it's enough!!!  


User currently offlinejreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 28050 times:

Here is another photo posted on Twitter:

http://yfrog.com/z/ochmiquvj

[Edited 2012-05-30 12:12:43]

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1936 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 27890 times:

That 744 wing wasn't even close to having enough room to get by.

User currently offlineNW747-400 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 27816 times:

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 7):
B 747: Air France ERJ + ExpressJet ERJ
A 380: DL CRJ

Don't forget the DL 763 vs DL CR9 in BOS!


User currently offlinecptspeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 27784 times:

Quoting futureualpilot (Reply 5):
A buddy of mine was working an ExpressJet ERJ taxiing right behind the 747

You know Len too?  

They aren't up for the time being, but keep an eye out on twitter @ThePilotReport and thepilotreport.com for the photos from the seconds after it happened if it becomes appropriate to post them in the future...

[Edited 2012-05-30 12:30:56]


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User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 621 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 27763 times:

Friend of mine is in ORD today:



User currently onlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 27526 times:

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 3):
be categorized as an "incident", not an accident. An accident implies loss of life or serious structural damage.

So a passenger on the Eagle plane may have had an "incident" in his pants when the 747 hit the plane he was sitting in?



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 27153 times:

Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 12):
Don't forget the DL 763 vs DL CR9 in BOS!

...and the CA B744 vs. B6 E190. I think we still have the winglet from the B744 floating around JFK somewhere as a souvenir LOL.



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User currently offlineB738FlyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 27121 times:
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Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 16):
I think we still have the winglet from the B744 floating around JFK somewhere as a souvenir LOL.

Would like to buy it .........   


User currently offlinefutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2602 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 27047 times:

Quoting cptspeaking (Reply 13):

I sure do! He's a good dude.



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User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 621 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 26910 times:



Some nasty damage to the slats.


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 26813 times:

Funny, I saw EVA come out of the cargo ramp and taxi across 28 just as I was pulling onto 32L. This must have happened literally a minute after I took off.

User currently offlineJet13 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 25820 times:

Thanks for new pics! definately shows what was done to the E135 and B744 , anyone know the status of those two now? Will it take long to fix?

-Nick



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User currently offlinecomairguycvg From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 24113 times:

Who works ramp control on that part of the concourse?

User currently offlinetan1mill From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 23776 times:

Anyone know the registration number of the American Eagle aircraft involved?


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User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 23153 times:

Quoting tan1mill (Reply 23):

N834AE

Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 22):

The aircraft was coming into G20 so no ramp contact was required and they probably weren't talking to anyone other than ground. The story I heard was that ground tried to tell them to stop but by the the time they realized and keyed the mic it was too late, but I can't verify that (other than listening to Live ATC).


25 penguinflies : Boeing, just gotta try to be #1 in everything....
26 Jet13 : Hi again! A buddy of mine posted earlier on facebook. "I've been listening to the 1730-1800Z ORD tower feed on LiveATC and here is what I have been ab
27 atcsundevil : I'm gonna guess that the Eva pilot had the pants incident...followed by obscenities and considering a means of escape without anyone noticing. Like I
28 ltbewr : Did the AA regional jet get moved around any? The Eva Air a/c looks like it will need a few days in the hanger, but how much damage to the EGF a/c ?
29 liftsifter : Looks like it'll be a while of off-time for the Eagle, considering the entire tail fin was hit by the wing.
30 Post contains images vivekman2006 : So what is the game all about? More "hits" mean you win the Greatest VLA crown? On a more serious note, was the ERJ parked or moving? If it was parke
31 chuchoteur : Actually, it looks like exactly the same configuration as the AF A380 at JFK. The regional had pulled in but stopped short of the gate, the bigger ai
32 bennett123 : Looking at the pictures, would this have been OK if the B744 did not have winglets?.
33 bueb0g : Actually, an injury = accident
34 B738FlyUIA : I doubt it as when you look at the pic from Reply19 you see the slats are damaged.
35 Post contains images JAGflyer : Chinese driv...i mean taxiiers.
36 Post contains links Northwest727 : This could be considered an accident, depending on your interpretation of 49 CFR 830 rules (commonly called the NTSB 830) and its definition of "subst
37 Mark2fly1034 : A plane went off the runway this morning.
38 atcsundevil : The definition is intending to imply serious fuselage damage. It covers other structural elements only for extreme cases, like QF32. The NTSB would,
39 hamad : I am just curious. When the AF 380 clipped the tail of the ERJ at JFK, it was such a huge incident and made bing news. I am a bit surprised that when
40 johnmke : the same AE plane had an emergency landing yesterday with no issues. the AE ERJ was stopped, waiting for a guide person to bring it fully into the ga
41 Post contains links PHX787 : Today's incident: http://avherald.com/h?article=45067c98&opt=0 not a good week for O'Hare
42 AeroWesty : The AF incident had spectacular video footage. This incident had a few snapshots of wing damage. Far less thrilling or noteworthy to drive YouTube hi
43 atcsundevil : Not my quote
44 Post contains links TWAL1011727 : Opinion only...(observation/speculation) Take a look at the airborne picture from in the right side of the B744. http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sect
45 bennett123 : FlyB738UIA Yes, I noticed that. My initial thought was that the damage to the slats were damaged by the stress when the winglet was jerked by the coll
46 Post contains images B6JFKH81 : The B744 was dead center on the taxiline (look at the intersection it was approaching to see where the lines curve to/from). The head-on shot gives a
47 PHX787 : What the heck was the ERJ doing so far back? Was it on pushback?
48 B6JFKH81 : Not sure, but this reminds me of the DL/AF incident at JFK quite a bit....
49 EMBQA : It was taxing into the gate. The EVA 747 did not wait for it to clear
50 Viscount724 : That's not correct. Even an event involving one serious injury, with no damage to the aircraft, is defined by the FAA/NTSB as an "accident", and seri
51 nomorerjs : Eva is clearly in the middle of the taxi way and Eagle appears to be taxing in. Did EVA go to quick? Did Eagle go to the gate to slow? Doesn't matter,
52 BreninTW : According to news reports on the radio here in Taiwan yesterday, BR sent an MD-11F with a "repair crew" to ORD yesterday. The MD-11F was to then take
53 ltbewr : Got to love the irony...a Mad Dog rescuing a Boeing....
54 atcsundevil : Find me an example of a broken arm causing an incident to be labelled an accident. If you can, I'll shut up. A serious injury is typically intended t
55 PHX787 : Why didn't the EVA use a different taxiway? ORD is huge
56 EMBQA : It's not a demrocracy... You go where ATC tells you to.
57 Post contains links Viscount724 : [/quote] Here's one (a broken ankle). There are dozens. Just search the NTSB accident report database. http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/Acciden...ei155vtb
58 PHX787 : Hm maybe this would be on the fault of the ATC then...of course, EVA should've seen the ERJ taxiing to the gate.
59 atcsundevil : Whether ATC was at fault or not, the FAA will buy part of this somehow...same as JFK. Hopefully ORD tower controllers know the difference between a m
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