IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9051 times:
Quoting klwright69 (Thread starter): From a casual observer it appears the route is finally catching on. This in contrast to the other proposed new longhaul route from IAH, that seems to be a nonstarter.
You wouldn't be referring to the IAH-AKL flight that is waiting to start when the B788 arrives and gets a few months of domestic service, would you?
That new IAH-LOS flight has been operating for some time, like since November so I would not say exactly a "new flight"!
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IrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2348 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8416 times:
Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 5): When I came through IAH Monday afternoon (flying SNA-IAH-DCA)
it looked as though IAH was earning its board and keep.
So . . . what is it being "punished" for ?
Though I have yet to find an official source, UA has threatened to cut jobs and capacity at IAH, as well as curb refurbishment efforts on terminal B, as a result of the allowance of FIS facilities at HOU.
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Sulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 548 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 8264 times:
Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 8): Though I have yet to find an official source, UA has threatened to cut jobs and capacity at IAH, as well as curb refurbishment efforts on terminal B, as a result of the allowance of FIS facilities at HOU.
Okay, a couple weeks ago I flew PSP-IAH-IAD -- and only saw the inside of terminal B. Forget the part about flying nearly 2500 miles on a couple of CR7s. But as cramped and obsolete as terminal B is, UA might as well sell the store.
There comes a point when you're actually telling your passengers to go to h*** instead of doing competitive business practice.
Not officially......yet, but I suspect it's a matter of time, perhaps hours. One of their spokespersons was strongly suggesting to the local media after the city council vote that AKL is not going to happen, again, nothing official.
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 81
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7539 times:
This is actually a blessing in disguise.
Houston is a horrible connecting point for a good fraction of US traffic. Deprecating it for that and focusing on what Houston can actually deliver from an O/D perspective (as well as the clear benefits of connections to Mexico and South) is in the best interests of United's passengers.
United has a lot of great hubs. They should use them, and not have illusions about what may have been best for them in the past.
That being said, clearly this whole HOU international flying thing is nothing more than an excuse and the impact to United's business is that Southwest can now compete.
drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5313 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7301 times:
Quoting gigneil (Reply 18): That being said, clearly this whole HOU international flying thing is nothing more than an excuse and the impact to United's business is that Southwest can now compete.
Yea, its in extremely poor taste for UA to further alienate loyal passengers and mask beancounter moves in a pissing match that they can't win against the City of Houston. Houstonians have already begun voting with their wallets...
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6578 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7113 times:
Quoting drerx7 (Reply 19): Yea, its in extremely poor taste for UA to further alienate loyal passengers and mask beancounter moves in a pissing match that they can't win against the City of Houston. Houstonians have already begun voting with their wallets...
The shift from UA is happening right now at IAH.....the AA, DL etc counters seems a lot more busy lately....and I am hearing a lot of "I hate UA" now from my Houston friends.....
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termbewr From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6751 times:
A lot of the "I hate UA" banter is just nonsense. Several friends and family members have flown UA recently and all complained "it's not the same since CO/UA merged" The flights they have taken were all CO aircraft and crews and nothing was different whatsoever. One of my family members recently blamed a flight cancellation on the UA merger. Yes, the fact that EWR was below minimums and the plane arrived hours late and the crew was out of duty was due to the merger. My neighbor lamented that "5 years ago she flew EWR - CDG on CO the planes were larger." She is insisting that due to the merger, she was forced to fly a 757 to CDG from EWR instead of a 777. Please note that she was all too happy to use her mileage for the free flight and commented how nice the flight home was (on the 757).
Maybe I'm not the norm but I look at the big picture. This merger is giving me more flight choices than existed before. For the first time in 15 years, I used Denver as a connecting point when flying west and liked it. It provided me with a more efficient schedule than previously available via IAH. If I want to fly to SFO, I have the choice of using EWR or JFK with several nonstops. On my recent GVA - EWR flight, I was delighted to be seated in the large econmy plus cabin of the 767-400er that didn't exist prior to the merger. People love to complain. Sadly, its human nature. You rarely hear the good but the negative comments can be heard half way around the world.
JetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6576 times:
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 20): he shift from UA is happening right now at IAH.....the AA, DL etc counters seems a lot more busy lately....and I am hearing a lot of "I hate UA" now from my Houston friends.....
It is upsetting they are threatening to cut routes and jobs as a result of the FIS facility at HOU being approved. They already shipped their Houston-based employees at HDQ and moved them up to Chicago! If United wants to play the game then so be it. I used to be nothing but loyal to Continental especially the past couple of years, but I am now a proud DL flier.
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: It's not the same world it was 15 years ago. JetBlue didn't exist, Southwest wasn't flying to Boston, New York and Philadelphia at 50% of the normal
: Get two items from the dollar menu instead of one
: Well, sorry man, but I don't buy your argument in 100% entirety. Nobody is complaining about the fact that the merger has occurred in the midst of ch
: Exactly, termbewr, you are trying to clearcoat over a mess with the broad statement that its human nature to complain and what not. Most of us are saa
: Yeah, so have I. I'm a pretty flexible guy and even fly WN occasionally (even though I'm a UA 1K). But since March 3rd, service has been all over the
: Looks like I may need to pay up... pay pal?
: Yep, I should clarify - I mean soft product as well, the conditions of the aircraft is spot on.
: This. I agree with you totally -- even when traveling as a non-rev, it's embarrassing. I was lucky enough to be cleared into F on a flight into DCA o
: Their catering is so all over the map now due to the routings of the aircraft. For example, a 737-900 can go from Houston to Boston (a legacy CO rout
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