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Scandinavian Aviation 2012 - Part 3  
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11420 posts, RR: 58
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 43277 times:
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As part 2 become too long, we are now opening the Part 3 for discussions.

Link to the previous one:

Scandinavian Aviation 2012 #2 (by bjorn14 Feb 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)


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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 43173 times:

Another former Skyways route is being filled when NextJet start Karlstad-CPH in August with 10x weekly flights using a Saab A340

User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 43077 times:

I only flew with Skyways a few weeks ago. Very sad that they are gone now although the aircraft were incredibly tatty. Hopefully SAS can still capture passengers from regional destinations.

Also, about the terminal moves at ARN, what happened to OneWorld carriers moving to T2? I know British Airways had some problems with this due to the "downgrade". I guess SkyTeam were more attracted by the lower costs.

[Edited 2012-05-31 01:31:15]


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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3982 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 42912 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 2):
Also, about the terminal moves at ARN, what happened to OneWorld carriers moving to T2? I know British Airways had some problems with this due to the "downgrade". I guess SkyTeam were more attracted by the lower costs.

No we are going to T2, but not until December.
Swedavia are doing a lot of work on the non-Schengen end of the terminal and One World will not move until its finished.
Look at ARN website for details.
Please note this is a move under protest! We like pier F and want to stay.


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 42894 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 3):
Please note this is a move under protest! We like pier F and want to stay.

One World bring a lot of money and premium passengers to Arlanda so I guess there is a lot of clout. If I were BA I would chain myself to gate F69 and not move  



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User currently offlinesas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 42710 times:

Vueling will open a new route between CPH and Malaga from the end of October - two weekly flights. In addition CPH-BCN will be incresed from 12x to 14x weekly.

More info:
http://cphtraveller.dk/nyheder/vueli...enhavn-med-direkte-rute-til-malaga


User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 42552 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 4):
One World bring a lot of money and premium passengers to Arlanda so I guess there is a lot of clout. If I were BA I would chain myself to gate F69 and not move

Premium passenger or low cost passenger - Arlanda earn the same on both type of passengers as far as I know. It is the numbers that count, and these days I guess Norwegian is their second largest customer. It isn't the first time Norwegian has flown from Terminal 5. I happen to fly with the first Norwegian flight in to ARN on 1 September 2003, and we docket at one of the rust brown jet bridges at Terminal 5.


User currently offlineThunderboltDrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 563 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 42256 times:

six people became ill on a SAS flight between Moscow and Stockholm as
a result of food posing.Two of them were brought to hospital. It is believed that
the cause to the illness is the food the ill passengers had eaten in a restaurant in Moscow.

http://www.dn.se/sthlm/flera-sjuka-pa-flyg-till-arlanda

[Edited 2012-06-02 11:57:07]


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User currently offlineCPHFF From Sweden, joined Aug 2011, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 42052 times:

Did I really see a DC3 flying around CPH on 30 May??

Hello,

On Wednesday 30 May around 19.30hs I was in a taxi on the Öresund Bridge towards Sweden. Looking out to my right, I saw a 2 engine prop plane (big piston engines) without livery at about 600-1000m above the sea. Colour was white or maybe light grey. The A/C was flying towards Runway 30, but I seriously doubt it was going to land, as landing operations at that time was on Runway 04L.

I know of no other DC3 than the "Flygande Veteraner" one.

Anyone know anything about this aircraft?

Thanks.

  



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User currently offlinebrissedk From Denmark, joined Nov 2007, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 41999 times:

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 8):
Did I really see a DC3 flying around CPH on 30 May??

Yes, you most likely did.

http://www.dc3vennerne.dk/

I flew it last year RKE-RNN-RKE, it was an amazing and very memorable trip. When we landed at RNN there was actually another DC-3 (Swedish, with retro SK livery) there, and the two ladies parked next to each other. Such a beautiful sight!

Cheers,
BJ



Frequent flyer based in CPH - mostly heading to: OSL, HEL, KEF, FAE and EWR
User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 41855 times:

SAS will (re-)start Copenhagen-BeIrut with 2x weekly flight from Jan 16 2013. Haven't seen any confirmation from SAS yet, but the flights are loaded in Amadeus

SK2827 CPH-BEY 09:00 - 14:05 A319/A321 xx3xx6x
SK2828 BEY-CPH 15:05 - 18:40 A319/A321 xx3xx6x


User currently offlinesas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 41692 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 10):
SAS will (re-)start Copenhagen-BeIrut with 2x weekly flight from Jan 16 2013. Haven't seen any confirmation from SAS yet, but the flights are loaded in Amadeus

SK2827 CPH-BEY 09:00 - 14:05 A319/A321 xx3xx6x
SK2828 BEY-CPH 15:05 - 18:40 A319/A321 xx3xx6x

More information about the new CPH-BEY here:
http://cphtraveller.dk/nyheder/sas-g...obenhavn-og-beirut-fra-januar-2013


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 41553 times:

Seems like Etihad will be the next Gulf carrier to cover Scandinavia.
Rumors out of Arlanda says 4 weekly departures are planned from the beginning of November.
Airbus 330-200 to operate Day 1,3,5 & 7.

The source of this information could indicate a bit early reveal of W12/13 slots due to be released later in June.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17056 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 41512 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 12):

I also heard about that rumour. If it is true, then EY also beat EK at ARN.



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User currently offlinePelle From Denmark, joined Apr 2012, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 41092 times:

SAS have announced today that as a direct result of Cimber Sterling's banctrupcy, they are going to fire 80 danish employees.
It looks like it is mostly ground staff that are affected (people who previously did the handling of luggage, food etc for Cimber Sterling flights).

With these sad news, SAS mention that they might not be the last cuts we will see from them. I guess one could view these steps as nessecary measures to save the sinking ship that is SAS.

Link only in Danish:
http://politiken.dk/erhverv/ECE1646241/sas-fyrer-80-i-danmark/

[Edited 2012-06-05 10:06:37]


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User currently offlineviasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 41000 times:

Does anybody know where all the Embraer 135s and 145s of City Airline (aka Skyways) are stored?

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 40954 times:

Quoting sas767 (Reply 11):

Apparently an error they wont be launching this, but I wonder if they were asked not to launch flights there, like Air Canada in 2003.


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 40723 times:

Air Canada to increase their winter schedule on Toronto - Copenhagen with one additional weekly flight.

Toronto – Copenhagen eff 07JAN13 Service increases from 3 to 4 weekly (Additional flights also operating from 16DEC12 to 30DEC12 during Christmas/New Year)

http://airlineroute.net/2012/06/06/ac-w12update1/


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 40568 times:

Some words regarding the Norwegian "vekterstreik" (security strike) which supposedly has been affecting Norwegian airports during the last few days.

- I flew from OSL to LHR yesterday on the BA 769, which was delayed on landing because of the strike and the again because of a technical issue that was later fixed by SAS technicians. It seems British Airways are overreacting to the strike action as it has not (as yet) caused too much distruption at OSL, yet on Friday two flights LHR-OSL were cancelled and one flight OSL-LHR were cancelled. Is this due to lack of communication between BA and Avinor or are there other reasons?

- The luggage belts at OSL are not working at check in due to lack of screening capabiliites so all luggage had to be taken by the passenger to the oversized luggage belt to be sent down to the aircraft. This was probably the most inconvenient part of my trip.

- Security queues were yesterday afternoon non existent at Gardermoen and I waited all of 30 seconds to clear security. However, it seems that more personnel have gone on strike today and that massive queues have formed at Trondheim Værnes Airport as a result.

Also on another note, the passport control booths have been moved at Gardermoen to create a much larger Non-Schengen area, cutting off the dual Schengen/Non-Schengen capabilities of some of the gates. Will this create a capacity issue for intra schengen flights? The area is still being built but there is much more space now.

Gates 19, 21 and 23 were being bulldozed yesterday (sad sight!) to make way for the new terminal extension so many of the DY and SK domestic flights are now handled via stairs from the old Widerøe gates.

Seems like there is going to be a lot of construction disturbance starting very soon!



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 40543 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 18):
Security queues were yesterday afternoon non existent at Gardermoen and I waited all of 30 seconds to clear security.

The queues has been less than feared, mainly due to people showing up at the airport early, and that many travellers, especially business travellers, has postponed/cancelled their planed trip. Both SAS and Norwegian are now reporting a clear drop in the number of passenger and that they are lossing several millions each day

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 18):
Will this create a capacity issue for intra schengen flights?

It will probably affect it somehow, but the non-schengen capacity had to be expanded due to an good increase in non-Schengen passengers

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 18):
many of the DY and SK domestic flights are now handled via stairs from the old Widerøe gates.

They have been doing this for a while now, but this will increase even further, together with increased used of remote parking av bussing from gate 14A, B, C and D.
Luckily the summer holiday is soon to come, with a fall in the domestic trafic, but I guess the domestic terminal will be very crowded when the business travellers return in August and the new south pier is not yet ready to use

Btw: OSL has a few web cameras where the construction can be followed
http://www.osl.no/osl/omoss/_presse/_webkamera

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 18):
Seems like there is going to be a lot of construction disturbance starting very soon!

It will be a mess untill 2017

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 18):
The luggage belts at OSL are not working at check in due to lack of screening capabiliites so all luggage had to be taken by the passenger to the oversized luggage belt to be sent down to the aircraft. This was probably the most inconvenient part of my trip.

Was this at check-in area H? (where BA has check-in) If I got it correct, this is a separate/semi-separate baggage system, so I guess it's partly closed at the moment, and thus why you had to bring your luggage over to the "main system"?


User currently offlineagrflyer From Switzerland, joined Nov 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 40503 times:
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I do not know if this is the right place to ask. In September I am flying ZRH-ARN-ORD-PDX on a ticked issued by SAS. The ticket shows a connecting time at ARN of 65min. Is that enough? To be honest I have not been at ARN for years now and can not remember the spread out of the airport.


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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 40486 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 19):
The queues has been less than feared, mainly due to people showing up at the airport early, and that many travellers, especially business travellers, has postponed/cancelled their planed trip. Both SAS and Norwegian are now reporting a clear drop in the number of passenger and that they are lossing several millions each day

Yes I read on NRK that they are thinking of temporarily laying off staff to compensate. Bad times and no end in sight to the action! The unions in Norway are very tough with their demands.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 19):
Was this at check-in area H? (where BA has check-in) If I got it correct, this is a separate/semi-separate baggage system, so I guess it's partly closed at the moment, and thus why you had to bring your luggage over to the "main system"?

Yes. She said the security strike meant that baggage could not be screened in the traditional way and that only one screening function was available, hence why we had to take our luggage somewhere else after checking in. There were also loads of baggage trailers in the check in area in preparation of even more strike action.



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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3982 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 40481 times:

Quoting agrflyer (Reply 20):
I am flying ZRH-ARN-ORD-PDX on a ticked issued by SAS. The ticket shows a connecting time at ARN of 65min. Is that enough?

Yes, should be OK. Both Swiss and SAS arrive at T5, and the ORD flight goes from T5 so you can walk from one gate to the other. Passport control is as you enter the F pier. From gate 18 to the ORD ( usually F62) gate is max 15 mins walk.


User currently offlineagrflyer From Switzerland, joined Nov 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 40438 times:
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Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 22):

Thanks!



BSL-BRU-BSL in July on SN in Y, MXP-MUC-ORD/DFW-FRA-MXP in September LH in C, ZRH-TLV-ZRH in October LX in Y
User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 40385 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 18):
Gates 19, 21 and 23 were being bulldozed yesterday (sad sight!) to make way for the new terminal extension so many of the DY and SK domestic flights are now handled via stairs from the old Widerøe gates.

Gate 15 and 17 are also out of use at the moment. With a walkway being built from gate 17 area to the new temporary (although I believe it will become permanent) south pier. You can see that from the webcamera link a couple posts up.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 19):
It will probably affect it somehow, but the non-schengen capacity had to be expanded due to an good increase in non-Schengen passengers

Also part of the longterm plan. Where more schengen gates (dual with domestic) will come to the north pier. Although, lately the increase of non-schengen flights might have moved this forward a bit.

However, which gates will still be dual schengen/non-schengen? Gate 49 currently is the only schengen capable gate, which can accomodate A330 and larger (until new pier is built). And this gate is important for flights such as the Thomas Cook A330 flight to the Canary Islands (and potentially DY 787 flights to Canary Islands).

-CXfirst



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User currently offlinesas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 40477 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 17):
Air Canada to increase their winter schedule on Toronto - Copenhagen with one additional weekly flight.

Toronto – Copenhagen eff 07JAN13 Service increases from 3 to 4 weekly (Additional flights also operating from 16DEC12 to 30DEC12 during Christmas/New Year)

http://airlineroute.net/2012/06/06/a...ate1/

Due to solid performance of the route and to fill the gap after United:

http://cphtraveller.dk/nyheder/air-c...-kapaciteten-mellem-cph-og-toronto


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 26, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 40231 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 24):
Gate 15 and 17 are also out of use at the moment. With a walkway being built from gate 17 area to the new temporary (although I believe it will become permanent) south pier. You can see that from the webcamera link a couple posts up.

Ah yes. It was so sad to see the bulldozer hacking away at the air bridges. I'm surprised they didn't remove them and install them at the new South pier to avoid all the gates being walking gates.



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 27, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 40450 times:

Another new route from SAS: ARN-LPA twice weekly form Oct 30

User currently offlineco38 From Norway, joined May 2009, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 40296 times:

I read in Scanorama yesterday that SK has sent/will send a MD87 to Poland/Ukraine carrying the Danish football team. Also wearing DENMARK decals.
The plane will be crewed by 7 pilots/cabin crew and will be based in Stettin in Northern Poland for the duration of the Danish appearance in the Euro2012 (Which might not be for too long  and fly them to the different cities they may be playing in.

I guess using a MD87 for this kind of mission is a no-brainer. SK should have a few extra MD87 sitting around.

How did the Swedish team travel btw?


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 29, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 40237 times:

Quoting co38 (Reply 28):

Photos of it here

http://forum.flyprat.no/showthread.php?t=103772

It just some big stickers

AFAIK it is the last operative MD87 for SAS. The rest are either parked or ferried to the dessert. SE-DMN went to the US for part out and scrap this week, and SE-DMK last week.

The Swedish team is flying Malmø Aviation


User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1399 posts, RR: 6
Reply 30, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 40144 times:
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Quoting someone83 (Reply 29):

Yep, and SE-DSU has also received a new "livery"


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Old colors looked better IMO:


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Quoting viasa (Reply 15):

I don't know where the Embraers went, but at least the MD's went back to the lessors. SE-DMK now flies for SAS again.



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User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 4
Reply 31, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 40056 times:

The first of the Scandinavian big three has today released the traffic number for May. The growth at Stockholm-Arlanda was only +1.7% and that equals to 29,032 more passenger as in May 2011.
International = 1,321,730 passengers; +2%
Domestic = 463,828 passengers; ±0%
Total = 1,785,558 passengers

The one rolling year for ARN was in May 19,486,122 passengers which equals to a 7.6% growth from last year (the corresponding number for April was 8.8%). One of the main contributors these low growth at ARN in May can be the Skyways bankruptcy.


User currently offlinelarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 39962 times:

Quoting co38 (Reply 28):
Which might not be for too long


But quite a bit longer than the Norwegian participation  
Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 30):
Yep, and SE-DSU has also received a new "livery"
Old colors looked better IMO:

I don't know why but every Swedish special livery is done 100%. I especially like the NextJet ski aircraft, SE-LEP. It may also have something to do with me working on that aircraft while it was painted.

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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 33, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 39951 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 19):
The queues has been less than feared

Say what I spent 2 hours in the cue on Sunday, my flight was delayed 60 minutes. It' ridiculous that unskilled people are demanding large pay-rises, if they want better pay they should get a better education.

Will the new temporary pier under construction behind the domestic terminal use airbridges?


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 34, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 39885 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 33):
Will the new temporary pier under construction behind the domestic terminal use airbridges?

No. The bridges you see is just to cross the service road.


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 35, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 39540 times:

Norwegian firms up order for 100 Airbus A320neo

Press release from Airbus: Norwegian, one of the largest low cost carriers in Europe, has firmed up its order for 100 A320neo aircraft with Airbus. This follows a commitment signed in January. The order makes Norwegian a new Airbus customer, and as well, one of the biggest A320neo customers.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...s-up-order-for-100-airbus-a320neo/


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 36, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 39158 times:

Can someone shed some light on the actual situation on the "danish domestic front" ?
Since Cimber´s demise there seem to be a number of routes unserved.

The only route taken up so far seems SGD-CPH by DAT ...

I was actually checking BLL-CPH and quite surprised no-one has taken up the route (not even SK as a feeder)
Well, I know one can go by train in ~2.5hrs to Copenhagen city but if you need to travel further - meaning you need to fly from CPH - the situation (total travel time) is less than comfortable ...

Is KLM taking up most of the transit pax now ?
Why does SK leave the market to competitors without even attempting to fight ???

Hmmm, at least Sun Air seems to be taking up a (very limited) share of the local point-to-point market by offering a new route to BMA now.

[Edited 2012-06-10 07:54:45]


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User currently offlineprebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6389 posts, RR: 54
Reply 37, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 38965 times:

Quoting MHG (Reply 36):
Can someone shed some light on the actual situation on the "danish domestic front" ?
Since Cimber´s demise there seem to be a number of routes unserved
SK has incresed frequency and capacity on AAR and AAL.

DY has increaed on AAL as well.

DX has taken on RNN.

DY has taken on KRP with 733s at half the previous frequency with QI and ATR.

Quoting MHG (Reply 36):
I was actually checking BLL-CPH and quite surprised no-one has taken up the route (not even SK as a feeder)
Well, I know one can go by train in ~2.5hrs to Copenhagen city but if you need to travel further - meaning you need to fly from CPH - the situation (total travel time) is less than comfortable
BLL-CPH isn't served any longer, and I guess that it never will.

The main caption area is what we call the "triangle area", the cities Vejle, Fredericia and Kolding. If you are in one of those cities, then you go much faster and much more conveniently by train to CPH. And at CPH the train even stops in the basement of the international terminal, so transit pax avoid the roughly one km walk or waiting for the shuttle bus fbetween the domestic and international terminal.

Quoting MHG (Reply 36):
Is KLM taking up most of the transit pax now

Yeah, KL to AMS, AF to CDG, LH to FRA, and of course multiple airlines to multiple London airports, etc. CPH is no longer the same hub for western Denmark as it used to be.

Quoting MHG (Reply 36):
Why does SK leave the market to competitors without even attempting to fight
SK increased on the routes they already served. But they didn't take up new routes.

SK isn't present at all in BLL, Denmark's by far second largest airport. They haven't landed there for decades.

[Edited 2012-06-10 13:40:50]


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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 38, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 38926 times:

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 37):
SK isn't present at all in BLL, Denmark's by far second largest airport. They haven't landed there for decades.

Thanks for the insight.

I know that BLL had been Maersk Air territory for a long time and now seems to have "only" Sun Air as its home carrier ...
Still I wonder why SK allowed KL/AF/LH grow that much at BLL !
It´s not something that happened overnight for sure...



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User currently offlineprebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6389 posts, RR: 54
Reply 39, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 38916 times:

Quoting MHG (Reply 38):
Still I wonder why SK allowed KL/AF/LH grow that much at BLL

Welcome in the club! You are not the only one who is wondering.

But fortunately we can just wonder. BLL is very well connected to the world. You can go everywhere, except to CPH.

And the flying public in south-western Denmark isn't totally disconnected to SK. At least they must - as tax payers - do their roughly annual duty along with the rest of the Scandinavian tax payers to keep SK in the air.   



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3846 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 38775 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 35):
Norwegian firms up order for 100 Airbus A320neo

Press release from Airbus: Norwegian, one of the largest low cost carriers in Europe, has firmed up its order for 100 A320neo aircraft with Airbus. This follows a commitment signed in January. The order makes Norwegian a new Airbus customer, and as well, one of the biggest A320neo customers.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...0neo/

Excellent news !

About time !


User currently offlineco38 From Norway, joined May 2009, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 38532 times:

Quoting larshjort (Reply 32):
But quite a bit longer than the Norwegian participation

Indeed 


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 42, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 38349 times:

More bad news from SAS... 40 mechanics at Arlanda are going to be sacked as the airline are moving parts of their heavy aircraft maintenance away from Sweden.

See article here: http://boarding.no/art.asp?id=50257

Would be nice if SAS published some slightly more positive news. It seems that the streamlining is taking a whole new approach. Anyone know where the maintenance will move to? Eastern Europe? SAS have been accused of having bad maintenance routines in the past so any move away from Sweden will grab quite a bit of media attention.



Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 4
Reply 43, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 38288 times:

I know a number of the SAS 737 Classic has been flown to Israel for heavy maintenance. Could it be an expansion of this relationship?

User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 44, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 38189 times:

Last week SAS added their 22nd 737-700, SE-RET to their fleet. It's currently flying from the ARN base and it's a former Virgin Blue Aircraft (VH-VBM)

User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 45, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 37852 times:

Sun-Air are back at BGO with 5 weekly flights from BLL with Dornier aircraft. Article below (in Norwegian):

http://boarding.no/art.asp?id=50270

Cool to see the 328Jet every now and then; pity it wasn't a more successful aircraft!



Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 46, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 37773 times:

Norwegian newest 737-800, LN-NGA, is to have its first commercial flight this afternoon on the OSL-BGO route

Norwegian has also announced (on Facebook) that they will open London-Gatwick and Tenerife from TRF from October 28th, although frequencies are not yet know

They are also starting ARN-MAN 4x weekly from Nov 1

[Edited 2012-06-13 03:38:08]

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 47, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 37559 times:
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Quoting Someone83 (Reply 46):
They are also starting ARN-MAN 4x weekly from Nov 1

and adding a 4th frequency on OSL-MAN


User currently offlineprebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6389 posts, RR: 54
Reply 48, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 37433 times:

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 37):
Quoting MHG (Reply 36):
Can someone shed some light on the actual situation on the "danish domestic front" ?
Since Cimber´s demise there seem to be a number of routes unserved.
.....
.....
DY has taken on KRP with 733s at half the previous frequency with QI and ATR.

I am booked on Norwegian KRP-CPH later today. Norwegian sent me a text message telling that flights are for the time being not operated by themselves, but by Jet Time.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 49, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 37335 times:

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 48):
I am booked on Norwegian KRP-CPH later today. Norwegian sent me a text message telling that flights are for the time being not operated by themselves, but by Jet Time.

Happened to me when Cimber Sterling first started with 737s to LGW... operated by clapped out JetTime 733s... in fact Cimber Sterling employed JetTime to operate the route who in turn leased an aircraft from Lithuania to operate it. Was very weird!



Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 50, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 36888 times:

After been a little on and off since it was started last year, Finnair/FlyBe Nordic has decided to cease HEL-TRD from end of June


Turkish Airlines on the other hand will increase GOT-IST from 10x to 14x weekly from March 30. 2013


User currently offlinelarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 36835 times:

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 37):
SK isn't present at all in BLL, Denmark's by far second largest airport. They haven't landed there for decades.

Except for all the charter flights.

Quoting MHG (Reply 38):

I know that BLL had been Maersk Air territory for a long time and now seems to have "only" Sun Air as its home carrier ...

There was also a massive reduction by Cimber Sterling in the last year before the bancruptcy. In april 2011 they had 14 routes from BLL which was reduce to 4 in april 2012, CPH, OSL, ARN and BGO



139, 306, 319, 320, 321, 332, 34A, AN2, AT4, AT5, AT7, 733, 735, 73G, 738, 739, 146, AR1, BH2, CN1, CR2, DH1, DH3, DH4,
User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 36840 times:

With the 14 weekly flights at GOT starting March next year, TK will have the same frequency there as they do at OSL and HEL. The airline has grown incredibly fast here, with flights launched 3 weekly in 2009. Three months ago they increased from daily to 10 weekly, and in nine months this will be upped to double daily.
This is not surprising though, as flights keep on being filled. The last time I saw the check-in, the line was so long that the staff couldn't finish checking in on time! At several occasions we've also received the A321.

Schedule:

IST09.20-GOT11.45 Daily
IST14.30-GOT16.45 Daily

GOT12.45-IST17.05 Daily
GOT17.55-IST22.15 Daily


/Alex

[Edited 2012-06-19 05:04:15]


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User currently offlineskane340 From Sweden, joined May 2008, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 36810 times:

Hi, can anyone tell me why the NRT-CPH (SK 984) and todays CPH-NRT (SK 983) are cancelled?

User currently offlineskidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 54, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 36692 times:

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 48):
I am booked on Norwegian KRP-CPH later today. Norwegian sent me a text message telling that flights are for the time being not operated by themselves, but by Jet Time.

Norwegian have leased LN-DYX and - DYY to Jet Time in order to operate Norwegian services due to a shortage of crews. Not sure how long this situation will go on for but when I find out I'll pass it on.

Incidentally, the next NG, LN-NGB will be arriving 3rd July with the first revenue flight planned for 10th july. Don't know where yet.

Andy    - lurking in OSL



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 55, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 36410 times:

After Cimber-Sterlings demise SAS is now taking some action on the Danish market. In addition to increase frequencies on CPH-AAR and CPH-AAL, the new Cimber AS is to operate twice daily CPH-BLL on behalf of SAS.

And to me the most surprising is that SAS is starting a daily OSL-BLL using 737s from sept 3


[Edited 2012-06-20 00:05:19]

User currently offlineARN From Sweden, joined Feb 2001, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 36315 times:

ET is from this month flying nonstop between ADD and ARN and back. Flights are operated during night both ways.

Will the operating aircraft, a 757, be parked at gate at ARN all day? Or towed away (and to which stand)?


User currently offlinelarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 36300 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 55):
And to me the most surprising is that SAS is starting a daily OSL-BLL using 737s from sept 3

Wow, I would have thought 2 daily on Widerøe would have been in order instead. Is it going to be a morning departure/arrival? If so, people wil have to fly SK one way and DY the other way.



139, 306, 319, 320, 321, 332, 34A, AN2, AT4, AT5, AT7, 733, 735, 73G, 738, 739, 146, AR1, BH2, CN1, CR2, DH1, DH3, DH4,
User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3982 posts, RR: 34
Reply 58, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 36300 times:

Quoting ARN" class="quote" target="_blank">ARN (Reply 56):
Will the operating aircraft, a 757, be parked at gate at ARN all day? Or towed away (and to which stand)?

The B757 has day stopped at ARN for years now.
It usually resides on the R stands (Where thw B744 freighters park)


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 59, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 36003 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 55):
And to me the most surprising is that SAS is starting a daily OSL-BLL using 737s from sept 3

Interesting - considering that Sun Air has already taken up this opportunity.
SK seems a bit late with it´s decision to fly this route.
But then ...
Maybe it´s simply against BA/EC ...



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 60, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 35762 times:

Quoting larshjort (Reply 57):
Wow, I would have thought 2 daily on Widerøe would have been in order instead

Widerøe don't have the capacity or enough Dash-8-300 or any Q400 based at OSL

Quoting MHG (Reply 59):
Interesting - considering that Sun Air has already taken up this opportunity.
SK seems a bit late with it´s decision to fly this route.

While they might be late there capacity isn't increasing that much compered when Cimber flw the route, although number of frequencies are down. If SAS is using a 737-700 on the route it will only add 12 extra daily seats compared to when Cimber flew


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 61, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 35489 times:
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Sun Air beginning 5 weekly GOT-MAN from 27th August looking on Amadeus.net. Flight numbers BA8231/8232

User currently offlinesas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 62, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 35421 times:

Air Berlin will increase their flights between Düsseldorf and Copenhagen from the end of October - up from 2x to 3x daily on weekdays.

http://cphtraveller.dk/nyheder/air-b...ten-mellem-kobenhavn-og-dusseldorf


User currently offlinecliffak From Sweden, joined Aug 2011, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 35466 times:

Quoting skane340 (Reply 53):
Hi, can anyone tell me why the NRT-CPH (SK 984) and todays CPH-NRT (SK 983) are cancelled?

Yes, SK984 got stuck in NRT due to a mechanical problem. Actually they had the spare available but apparently not enough time to conduct all the checks required after replacement of the part.

This cancellation was handled rather poorly by the NRT ground staff btw..

How do I know all this? I was supposed to fly NRT-CPH on SK984 but ended up being stuck in Japan for almost one full day more than intended.  


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 34986 times:

According to airlineroute.net, Air China has further adjusted planned Beijing – Stockholm service in Winter 2012/13 season. The Star Alliance member will operate the service 5 times a week instead of planned 6, while changing operational days.

Schedule:

CA911 PEK1355 – 1610ARN 330 x36
CA912 ARN1810 – 0940+1PEK 330 x36

Previously the airline planned to operate Day x26 on this route.



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 34866 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 61):

Sun Air beginning 5 weekly GOT-MAN from 27th August looking on Amadeus.net. Flight numbers BA8231/8232

It has now been announced that it will operate 11 weekly! Together with ZRH (and LYS), the route to MAN was the most important one in the international network of CityAirline/Skyways before they went, so this return was needed!

Scedule:

GOT08.00-MAN09.00 x67
MAN09.30-GOT11.30 x67

GOT17.00-MAN18.00 x6
MAN18.30-GOT21.30 x6

All flights operated by D328 Jet.

/Alex



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User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 66, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 34572 times:

OSL have recently upgraded its restaurant and bar facilities at the airport. Several new areas for dining together with an overall upgrade and new concepts and brands such as Starbucks, O'Learys, YO sushi, Le Grand Comptoir and The Beach Club. My personal expression is that they have succeed very well, lifting the overall terminal experience through improved impression and quality. This week, another recognition was given by the Foodie Report, listing YO Sushi @ OSL as the worlds best self service Airport/Railway restaurant. The ceremony was held @ Schiphol airport last week.


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 67, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 34431 times:

Seems like TG plans to change 747-400 with 777-300ER on CPH-BKK from summer 2013

User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 34311 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 67):
Seems like TG plans to change 747-400 with 777-300ER on CPH-BKK from summer 2013

Any source of information?

Sounds nice. AFAIK the 747's used on CPH-BKK are rather old so it would be nice with an updated product. How many seats will be offered compared to before?



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 69, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 34265 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 68):
Any source of information?
http://airlineroute.net/2012/06/26/tg-s13update12/


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 34107 times:

These will be 77Ws featured with C42/Y306 for a total of 348. But what is weird to me is that this means a drop of 69 seats in economy/economy extra! Also a sharp jump in C from 14 to 42!! TG's Scandinavian flights are mainly filled by leisure passengers, so how will they get these extra seats sold? Heavily discounted fares in Business?

Also, is this change for the summer season only or is it permanent?

/Alex



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User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 33909 times:

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 70):
These will be 77Ws featured with C42/Y306 for a total of 348. But what is weird to me is that this means a drop of 69 seats in economy/economy extra! Also a sharp jump in C from 14 to 42!! TG's Scandinavian flights are mainly filled by leisure passengers, so how will they get these extra seats sold? Heavily discounted fares in Business?

Also, is this change for the summer season only or is it permanent?

There is an article about this in today's takeoff.dk

http://www.takeoff.dk/news/23271



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 72, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 33807 times:

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...e-selected-services-to-heathrow-t1

Confirmed by BA:
LHR-OSL will increase from 4x to 5x daily
LHR-BGO/SVG will move from T1 to T5 from Oct 28


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 73, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 33424 times:

BA has presented their new double daily schedules on LHR to SVG and BGO fom 28/10/13


British Airways is boosting service to Bergen and Stavanger starting 28OCT12, with the addition of 2nd daily flight. These flights are currently operated by bmi once a day. Schedule from 28OCT12:

London Heathrow – Bergen 2 Daily
BA758 LHR0750 – 1045BGO 319 D
BA760 LHR1550 – 1825BGO 319 12
BA760 LHR1650 – 1925BGO 319 34
BA760 LHR1700 – 1935BGO 319 567

BA757 BGO1155 – 1250LHR 319 356
BA757 BGO1205 – 1300LHR 319 x356
BA759 BGO2015 – 2050LHR 319 145
BA759 BGO2020 – 2055LHR 319 x145

London Heathrow – Stavanger 2 Daily
BA744 LHR0755 – 1040SVG 319 2
BA744 LHR0805 – 1050SVG 319 x2
BA746 LHR1550 – 1830SVG 319 6
BA746 LHR1635 – 1915SVG 319 x6

BA745 SVG1145 – 1240LHR 319 36
BA745 SVG1230 – 1325LHR 319 x36
BA747 SVG1955 – 2040LHR 319 D


User currently offlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 563 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (2 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 33094 times:

read that two aircraft have collided at Arlanda airport earlier today,

at least one of the aircraft are from Sun Express. Since two Sun Express flights are delayed
i would guess that the other aircraft is also from Sun Express.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article15057410.ab



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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3982 posts, RR: 34
Reply 75, posted (2 years 1 month 3 hours ago) and read 32973 times:

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 74):
read that two aircraft have collided at Arlanda airport earlier today,

I see it happened at the end of the B pier, gates 19 and 20.
The taxy system there is an accident waiting to happen. There are taxy lines behind these gates that cannot be used when a plane is parked on the gate. It was here that the Northwest DC10 sliced the rudder off a DC9 many years ago.

On another track, the scheduled Qatar flight today is a Boeing 777.(A7-BBF) First pax QR B777 at ARN? (the freighters have been here a few times)


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17056 posts, RR: 10
Reply 76, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 32748 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 75):
On another track, the scheduled Qatar flight today is a Boeing 777.(A7-BBF)

Interesting. Higher loads today or did an A330 go tech?



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3846 posts, RR: 1
Reply 77, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 32404 times:

Norwegian DY has receaved another Boeing 737 800 from the factory today. LN-NGB landed on OSL earlier today and is the 9th new aircraft of 13 they are gonna receave this year.

User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 78, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 32078 times:

According to Ailrlineroute SAS is to start CPH-SFO next summer and increase CPH-EWR to 10x weekly by bringing SK901/902 back....although no official statement has come from SAS, but the flights are bookable


Schedule:

Copenhagen – Newark
SK909 CPH1225 – 1450EWR 333 x2
SK909 CPH1225 – 1450EWR 343 2
SK901 CPH1825 – 2050EWR 343 145

SK910 EWR1740 – 0715+1CPH 333 x2
SK910 EWR1740 – 0715+1CPH 343 2
SK902 EWR2330 – 1315+1CPH 343 145

Copenhagen – San Francisco
SK935 CPH1225 – 1445SFO 343 x26
SK935 CPH1255 – 1515SFO 343 6

SK936 SFO1735 – 1315+1CPH 343 x2


To be honest, I don't believe this yet, as I suspects is another error like their BEY route. I where are they getting this capacity from?


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4161 posts, RR: 13
Reply 79, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 31672 times:

Aer Lingus are returning to CPH with a new daily service from DUB from Oct 28th.

Dublin - Stockholm service also is proving very sucessful and will be a year round service.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1811 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 31681 times:

Why cant SAS use ARN more for international flights, many many swedes are fed up with CPH.

User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 81, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 31669 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 80):
Why cant SAS use ARN more for international flights, many many swedes are fed up with CPH.

Because their main IC hub is at CPH, the total international traffic (and demand) is larger from CPH, and they have many more feeding routes from other Cities both in Scandinavia and Northern Europe into CPH


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 82, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 31608 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 80):
Why cant SAS use ARN more for international flights, many many swedes are fed up with CPH.

ARN is a horrible airport IMHO apart from Pier F although that part of T5 is very narrow. Security is always a nightmare and the walking distances are just stupid and the set up is so inefficient with seperate terminals and no common airside area like CPH.

CPH is much more set up as a transfer hub than ARN so definitely the best location for the IC network. ARN is just badly designed.



Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 83, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 31283 times:

Norwegian is starting several routes to Las Palmas the coming winter with flights from TOS, EVE, AES, HAU, RYG and BLL. All with 1x weekly flights

User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 84, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 31038 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 82):
CPH is much more set up as a transfer hub than ARN so definitely the best location for the IC network. ARN is just badly designed.

What about OSL, it's by far and away the easiest airport to use in Scandinavia, security (apart from when the bastards strike) is also the fastest of any airport I use.


User currently onlinespeedygonzales From Norway, joined Sep 2007, 722 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 31014 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 84):

Are we talking about the same airport? OSL is one of the worst airports I know, especially for connecting. I generally shun the place like the plague, unless tickets through OSL is much cheaper than any alternatives.



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User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 4
Reply 86, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30992 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 84):
What about OSL, it's by far and away the easiest airport to use in Scandinavia, security (apart from when the bastards strike) is also the fastest of any airport I use.

Don't say that too loud, just let's keep it as a secret  
To be more serious, I think the next years will be much more cramped than OSL even feared. Both being a construction site and busy international airport will certainly be challenging, and to add more intercontinental flights will mean more busing and other temporary solutions. With T2.1 finished in 2017 we may be able to sort of breath more freely, but since OSL has decided to continue straight away with the next construction step, T2.2, the disruptions may continue for some more years. I guess at that time the largest Scandinavian airline isn't SAS, but the red noses - also on intercontinental flights.


User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 87, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 30795 times:

Quoting speedygonzales (Reply 85):
Are we talking about the same airport? OSL is one of the worst airports I know, especially for connecting. I generally shun the place like the plague, unless tickets through OSL is much cheaper than any alternatives.

Really connecting at OSL is so simple even an idiot could work it out. Is there any airport anywhere which is easier to connect from domestic to international, I haven't found one.

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 86):
To be more serious, I think the next years will be much more cramped than OSL even feared.

The length of time taken to build this extension is simply idiotic, you could built a complete new airport in less time.


User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 4
Reply 88, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 30702 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 87):
The length of time taken to build this extension is simply idiotic, you could built a complete new airport in less time.

To say it is only simple extension is wrong. There is a 52,000 m² large arrival/departure terminal to be built, a 63,000 m² large Pier North, two new East-West taxiways to replace taxiways Golf and Hotel, extending North-South taxiways, new high speed turn off fron the runways, ground radar to cover for the shadows the new pier create, a number of new bridges, a lot of underground work to connect new an old existing systems, rebuilding the railway station and creating a central hall above that links the old and the new terminal, building an temporary pier South for domestic flights, and on and on ... The existing terminal with its two piers has a building area of 148,000 m², and this "small extension" the building area will increase with almost 80%.

It's easy to erect a steel shed where you don't have any obstructions and no aesthetic requirements to a project. At OSL you have a fully working airport so close to the construction site that every worker will get their smell of jetfuel in the morning. As important as hearing protection is for the ground handlers, it will be for the construction workers. In addition to thinking about the safety, there is also the security issue where no barrier breaches can be allowed.

- It took over five years to build OSL from scratch - construction start 13 August 1933 and grand opening 8 October 1998.
- It took over five years to build T2 at LHR - construction start September 2002 and grand opening 14 March 2008.
- It will take over six and half years to build BER (Berlin Brandenburg) - construction start 5 September 2006 and grand opening 17 March 2013 (I hope).

Projects like this takes time, and for OSL we are talking a bit over five years from contruction start until the opening in the Spring of 2017. Below is a link to the project planning web page:
http://www.oslt2.no/orientering-om-p...6be8-6915-4e18-b05a-b416d896f3e0/3


User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 89, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 30625 times:

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 88):
- It took over five years to build OSL from scratch - construction start 13 August 1933 and grand opening 8 October 1998.
- It took over five years to build T2 at LHR - construction start September 2002 and grand opening 14 March 2008.
- It will take over six and half years to build BER (Berlin Brandenburg) - construction start 5 September 2006 and grand opening 17 March 2013 (I hope).

And the Chinese built Pudong International Airport in two years, Beijing Terminal 3 (the worlds largest on opening) took 3 years 11 months from start to opening, so major construction projects like this can be realised quickly if the political will is there.

The daft thing for me is that if the govt at the time had built Gardermoen as originally planned (the terminal was build narrower than designed to save money) there wouldn't be a need for this extension, I also feel there would be significantly less disruption if they built a midfield satellite terminal, which was also part of the original plan for expanding the airport.


User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 4
Reply 90, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 30539 times:

Here is one of the headlines regarding Beijing Terminal 3 in November 2011:

Quote:
'Torn open': Wind rips off parts of $2.8 billion terminal's roof at Beijing airport
One of the architects behind Beijing Terminal 3, which opened in time for the 2008 Olympics, told the Associated Press that inadequate materials or installation — not design flaws — were to blame for Tuesday's structural failure.

Enough said about bad projects - time is important, but at times it's better to get it right the first time - not even Norman Foster can do wonders.

I don't agree with your analysis about the width of the piers. Wider piers could never help create more gates. The only thing that can create more gates with the aircraft's wingspan fixed is more wall space with a clear area in front of it. The only possibility to make this happen at OSL is either to add a pier in the only direction possible to the existing terminal or create a new separate terminal. OSL selected the first option, and the result will be the North Pier. There are a number of pros and cons to the North Pier. Here are a few pros:
- Increasing the capacity from 22.5 to 33.5 million yearly passengers, but no increased walking distances for passengers.
- Vital facilities don't need to be duplicate, only widened.
It is no difficulties to find cons, but let me only add two here too:
- The average taxi length will rise due to the two crossing taxiways (to replace Golf and Hotel) had to be moved northward. This con is partly offset since mixed operation is now widely used at the airport.
- The winter and clearing vast amounts of snow is a real problem at OSL. With the North Pier added, the straight ahead big sweep snow removal trains along the north side of the terminal will be history. Now OSL will get more corners that is more difficult to get the snow away from. The snow repositories will also be further away than it is today.

The only that wonders me is why OSL didn't use the window with lower passenger levels a few years ago to advance this much needed expansion?

For those of you interested in what the plans after T2 are I suggest you try this link (OSL Master Plan 2012-2050 - only in Norwegian):
http://www.osl.no/tridionimages/masterplanOSL_tcm181-145264.pdf



[Edited 2012-07-07 14:11:20]

User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 91, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 30404 times:

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 90):
I don't agree with your analysis about the width of the piers. Wider piers could never help create more gates.

But the wider piers would have given larger gate lounges which is a problem with OSL.

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 90):
The average taxi length will rise due to the two crossing taxiways (to replace Golf and Hotel) had to be moved northward. This con is partly offset since mixed operation is now widely used at the airport.
- The winter and clearing vast amounts of snow is a real problem at OSL. With the North Pier added, the straight ahead big sweep snow removal trains along the north side of the terminal will be history. Now OSL will get more corners that is more difficult to get the snow away from. The snow repositories will also be further away than it is today.

Neither of these problems would have existed if T2 was a midfield satellite terminal as originally anticipated. I have seen a render of OSL with this terminal in place, although I can't find it anymore.

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 90):
http://www.osl.no/tridionimages/masterplanOSL_tcm181-145264.pdf

Pic 6.4.2 is interesting as it shows a 3rd Terminal, looks like it is where the SAS maintenance hangers are located currently. Would T3 be purely international, domestic or mixed?

Talking about maintenance hangers, who uses the hangers near the military terminal, they had some MD's parked there last year.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 92, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 30135 times:

Aer Lingus is giving CPH another attempt, and is starting DUB-CPH for the third time in ten years from the winter 2012/2013 season, with daily flights

Nextjet is also picking up aanopther former Skyways route and is starting Norrköping-CPH from Sept 10.


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 93, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 30081 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 84):

What about OSL, it's by far and away the easiest airport to use in Scandinavia, security (apart from when the bastards strike) is also the fastest of any airport I use.

Well this was a comparison between ARN and CPH.

But I agree with other posters. OSL is already becoming less of a nice experience as construction has now started on the new terminal extension and pier. Also the non-schengen gates are being extended so there is a bit of construction there but in terms of transferring I suppose it isn't the worst airport although here is an analysis:

- Domestic to Domestic - Piece of cake... walk out of the plane, down the stairs (no re-screening for security) and to your new gate.

- Domestic to international - Piece of cake... walk out of the plane, down the stairs (no re-screening for security), through the gates to the international area, through duty free and to the new gate.

- International to domestic - This is OSL's and Norway's downfall. When you land you have to go to arrivals, pick up your baggage, go through customs, re check in your luggage (even if it is tagged through), go through security and go to the gate. You need a lot of time for this and also you have to remember to have your duty free goods sealed otherwise they'll get confiscated.

- International to International - Piece of cake. You land, get rescreened, go down the stairs and you are in the departure area for international flights.


So in essence, the only bitch about transferring in OSL is the domestic to international because of customs requirements. I know they are working on legislation for this. In Germany even domestic passengers go through customs when they land so that means you can transfer at say FRA to a domestic flight to MUC and still have the same customs screening. Works quite well. They can always tell when you have just flown in on a domestic flight point to point and won't check you.

ARN is similar as Sweden has the rules regarding customs. Not sure about Denmark?



Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlinebrissedk From Denmark, joined Nov 2007, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 30007 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 93):
Not sure about Denmark?

Customs clearance takes place at final destination, no re-screening at CPH for domestic bound pax. They do have to trek all the way to T1 though, which is really inconvenient. Unless they take the bus, but even that is a bother.

Cheers,
BJ



Frequent flyer based in CPH - mostly heading to: OSL, HEL, KEF, FAE and EWR
User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 95, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 29928 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 93):
- International to domestic - This is OSL's and Norway's downfall. When you land you have to go to arrivals, pick up your baggage, go through customs, re check in your luggage (even if it is tagged through), go through security and go to the gate. You need a lot of time for this and also you have to remember to have your duty free goods sealed otherwise they'll get confiscated.

But this isn't OSL's fault, the govt could sort this out fairly easily if they wanted too. Even on a busy day it doesn't take more than 30 minutes, unless security is on strike, that took me 2 hours.


User currently offlinejlarsson From Sweden, joined Sep 2007, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 96, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 29867 times:

According to a pressrelease KSD airport will tomorrow present a new airline that will start flying to/from KSD.

I've not heard any rumors of any kind but I suspect it's either EasyJet or WizzAir.

Anybody out there that has any more info?

Link to newspaper article regarding press release.
(Only in Swedish) Sorry!

http://nwt.se/sverige-varlden/article1135407.ece

br, jlarsson

  



Next trip; ARN-FRA-YYC-YVR-SEA-ORD-BOS-MUC-GOT.
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 97, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 29883 times:

Quoting jlarsson (Reply 96):
I've not heard any rumors of any kind but I suspect it's either EasyJet or WizzAir.

Why would Easyjet fly to Karlstad? EZY generally only target larger airports even though they are an LCC. Maybe it's Ryanair or a domestic carrier to replace the capacity lost when JZ went bust.



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User currently offlinerobbie86 From Sweden, joined May 2006, 531 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 29874 times:

Quoting jlarsson (Reply 96):

My guess goes with KLM or EasyJet.



Next flights: ARN-LHR-IAD on BA 319/VS343 EWR-LHR-ARN on VS346/BA319
User currently offlinejlarsson From Sweden, joined Sep 2007, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 29842 times:



Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 97):
Maybe it's Ryanair or a domestic carrier to replace the capacity lost when JZ went bust.

As FR already flies from KSD it's not them. It's a new airline to KSD.

Well let's see tomorrow?

br, jlarsson



Next trip; ARN-FRA-YYC-YVR-SEA-ORD-BOS-MUC-GOT.
User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 100, posted (2 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 29649 times:

Quoting jlarsson (Reply 96):
According to a pressrelease KSD airport will tomorrow present a new airline that will start flying to/from KSD.

It's Norwegian to Las Palmas.

This is in connection with Norwegian establishing a new base in Las Palmas from October 2012.

New routes:
Tromsø, Evenes, Aalesund, Rygge, Haugesund, Karstad, Malmø, Umeå, Oulu and Billund. All with one weekly.

In addition, we will se the following increase in capacity:
OSL: 6x -> 8x weekly
BGO/TRF/TRD/SVG: 1x -> 2x weekly
ARN: 3x -> 4x weekly
CPH: 3x -> 5x weekly


User currently offlinejox From Sweden, joined Jan 2003, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 101, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 29413 times:
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Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 93):
ARN is similar as Sweden has the rules regarding customs. Not sure about Denmark?

Not sure if you did compare ARN to OSL or FRA there... In Sweden, you can do customs clearance at the final destination except a few extremely small ones. Not all airlines and handling agents are using the possibility, though. But if you for example arrive internationally with SK and are continuing with SK domestic, it works fine. You still has to change terminal and do another security check    at T4.


User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3982 posts, RR: 34
Reply 102, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 29481 times:

Quoting jox (Reply 101):
You still has to change terminal and do another security check at T4.

But Swedavia has plans to fix this. Look on their www.arlanda.net site for details.


User currently offlinejox From Sweden, joined Jan 2003, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 29295 times:
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Tristarsteve - can you point to a more exact location where they say that there will be transfer between terminals without the need for new security check? I can see documents describing combined domestic/international within T5, but that is not the same thing (even if that is a good thing by itself!).

User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 104, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 29227 times:

Norwegian is starting 2x weekly RYG-AGP and RYG-ALC from Oct 31.

User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 105, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 29007 times:

Quoting sas767 (Reply 25):
Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 17):Air Canada to increase their winter schedule on Toronto - Copenhagen with one additional weekly flight.

Toronto – Copenhagen eff 07JAN13 Service increases from 3 to 4 weekly (Additional flights also operating from 16DEC12 to 30DEC12 during Christmas/New Year)

http://airlineroute.net/2012/06/06/a...ate1/
Due to solid performance of the route and to fill the gap after United:

http://cphtraveller.dk/nyheder/air-c...ronto

Air Canada shrinks its planned increase to 4 daily W12/13

Toronto – Copenhagen Planned 4th weekly service will not operate from 17DEC12 to 01JAN13, and from 18FEB13. Previously the airline planned to increase service from 17DEC12 (which includes Jan/Feb 2013)
AC882 YYZ2055 – 1045+1CPH 763 246
AC883 CPH1215 – 1450YYZ 763 357

http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/12/ac-w12update3/


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 28996 times:

Starting October 30, Norwegian is launching GOT-ALC twice weekly, giving Ryanair some competition on GSE-ALC on their five weekly during summer (even daily in July).

At the same time, Norwegian is also increasing GOT-AGP from one to two weekly during winter.

/Alex



I don't fly to live, I live to fly...
User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 107, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 28621 times:

SE-REU, SAS next (and 23rd) 737-700 has been spottet in SAS colours in China and is expected to AEN in about a month. The aircraft is an ex Virgin Australia aircraft

User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 108, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 28546 times:

Qatar Airways to increase to daily from OSL JAN13.

QR953 DOH-OSL 0800 - 1330 1357
QR954 OSL-DOH 1500 - 2325 1357

QR955 DOH-OSL 0125 - 0655 246
QR956 OSL-DOH 1055 - 1920 246

Airbus 330-200/300 to operate.


User currently offlineIdeekay From Switzerland, joined Jun 2012, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 109, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 28527 times:

Norwegian opens the following new route:

OUL-LPA (Once per week, starting at 31.10.2012)

Than they are updating the Routes:

HEL-AGP (Now 4 times a week)
and
HEL-ALC (They will fly it now the whole year)


All flights are operated by Boeing 737-800

[Edited 2012-07-18 12:48:22]

User currently offlinesas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 110, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 28499 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 108):
Qatar Airways to increase to daily from OSL JAN13.

QR953 DOH-OSL 0800 - 1330 1357
QR954 OSL-DOH 1500 - 2325 1357

QR955 DOH-OSL 0125 - 0655 246
QR956 OSL-DOH 1055 - 1920 246

Airbus 330-200/300 to operate.

What took them so long......... But good for OSL now when they have been put on ice by EK.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 111, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 28485 times:

Current plans for the withdrawal of SAS MD-80 and 737-Classic fleet:

MD-87: last aircraft to leave 20sep2012
MD-82 last aircraft to leave aug2014
737-400: last aircraft to leave sep2014
737-500: last aircraft to leave jul2014

Note that all dates are subject to change


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 28339 times:

Gulf Air since 01JUL12 has introduced Premium-Airbus A320 aircraft to its Bahrain – Copenhagen daily operation, 3 months earlier than planned. The airline previously planned to operate A320 aircraft on this route from 01OCT12.

Existing schedule:

GF027 BAH0140 – 0700CPH 320 x256
GF033 BAH1015 – 1535CPH 320 256

GF026 CPH1115 – 1815BAH 320 x256
GF032 CPH1635 – 2335BAH 320 256

More about it here:
http://cphtraveller.dk/nyheder/gulf-...obenhavns-lufthavn-med-airbus-a320

A bit of an increase in capacity. I wonder if they can stay in this game with hard competition from EK and QR. I do like their early morning arrivals into CPH at 7am. Makes it possible to actually have a normal workday.



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 113, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 28219 times:

Saw this on Aviation Herald regarding a DY 738 rejected take off at AAL. Pretty short runway so I guess it must have been in the early stages of the take off roll?

"A Norwegian Air Shuttle Boeing 737-800, registration LN-DYE performing flight DY-1338 from Aalesund (Norway) to London Gatwick,EN (UK), rejected takeoff from Aaelsund after the crew observed a number of birds, one or two of which impacted the aircraft. The aircraft slowed safely and returned to the apron.

Following examination the aircraft was able to depart again about 4 hours later and reached London with a delay of 3:45 hours.

The airline confirmed one or two birds impacted the aircraft".

Also, can they fill a 738 from AAL to LGW?? Surprises me they don't use the 733 on this route.



Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 114, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 28016 times:

Btw: Aalesund = AES. AAL = Aalborg  

Seems to be another delay prone day for Norwegian travellers. Thanks too Avinor's incompetence ther is a shortage of ATC staff, which especially during summer weekends is being felt


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 115, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 28001 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 108):
Qatar Airways to increase to daily from OSL JAN13.

QR953 DOH-OSL 0800 - 1330 1357
QR954 OSL-DOH 1500 - 2325 1357

QR955 DOH-OSL 0125 - 0655 246
QR956 OSL-DOH 1055 - 1920 246

Airbus 330-200/300 to operate.


Airlineroutes.net claims 9x weekly. Who's right?

http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/19/qr-europe-w12/


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 27955 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 115):
Airlineroutes.net claims 9x weekly. Who's right?

According to their own booking system, 9 weekly is what's happening!

/Alex



I don't fly to live, I live to fly...
User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 117, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 27968 times:

The general impression of all potential IC services are that they all are on hold untill Norwegian reveal their plans.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 115):
Quoting someone83 (Reply 115):
Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 108):Qatar Airways to increase to daily from OSL JAN13.

QR953 DOH-OSL 0800 - 1330 1357
QR954 OSL-DOH 1500 - 2325 1357

QR955 DOH-OSL 0125 - 0655 246
QR956 OSL-DOH 1055 - 1920 246

Airbus 330-200/300 to operate.


Airlineroutes.net claims 9x weekly. Who's right?

http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/19/q...-w12/

They did apply for 9 weekly for W12/13, however everyone thought it was to secure slots for flying in on different banks to Doha when increasing to daily flights. Rumors of 9 weekly have been around since the release of the slots list and it seems firm with the 9 weekly flight now uploaded. I guess OSL will be formally informed within the next few days.


Qatar airways are doing extraordinary well from OSL. The benchmarking of their OSL service that I've been presented with are very pleasant reading. Especially the numbers of business travelers are far over their expectations along with a fully loaded cargo belly on every flight. Qatar are aiming for 14 weekly from OSL. This has been the strategy from the introduction of the service.

[Edited 2012-07-19 13:29:19]

User currently offlinearn777 From Sweden, joined Jul 2010, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 118, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 27783 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 115):
Airlineroutes.net claims 9x weekly

That is quite an expantion in under 15 months. QR must preform good at OSL.


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 27665 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 117):
9 weekly flight now uploaded. I guess OSL will be formally informed within the next few days.


Qatar airways are doing extraordinary well from OSL. The benchmarking of their OSL service that I've been presented with are very pleasant reading. Especially the numbers of business travelers are far over their expectations along with a fully loaded cargo belly on every flight. Qatar are aiming for 14 weekly from OSL. This has been the strategy from the introduction of the service.

Makes sense. The other MEA carriers have been too slow at getting to the buffet at OSL and increased frequencies will consolidate the QR presence. Probably only a well known brand like Emirates could break into that succesfully.



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 120, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 27637 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 117):
Qatar airways are doing extraordinary well from OSL. The benchmarking of their OSL service that I've been presented with are very pleasant reading. Especially the numbers of business travelers are far over their expectations along with a fully loaded cargo belly on every flight. Qatar are aiming for 14 weekly from OSL. This has been the strategy from the introduction of the service.

I wonder when QR will start sending bigger aircraft like the 77W or 346 to OSL.

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 119):
Makes sense. The other MEA carriers have been too slow at getting to the buffet at OSL and increased frequencies will consolidate the QR presence. Probably only a well known brand like Emirates could break into that succesfully.

I wouldn't be surprised if EK announced OSL soon with a 332 upgauging to a 777 later on.



Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 121, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 27617 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 111):
Current plans for the withdrawal of SAS MD-80 and 737-Classic fleet:

MD-87: last aircraft to leave 20sep2012
MD-82 last aircraft to leave aug2014
737-400: last aircraft to leave sep2014
737-500: last aircraft to leave jul2014

Note that all dates are subject to change

Some more details here:

- 9 MDs are planned to leave the fleet in 2013, the rest in 2014
- One -400 will leave each year 2012, 2013 and 2014 (leases expires)
- two -500 to leave in 2012, and three in 2013 and the twp remaining in 2014
- Next new -800 to be delivered in December 2012, with more to follow in 2013/2014
- Not sure when next used -700 (after SE-REU next month) will be delivered, or first A320


User currently offlinejox From Sweden, joined Jan 2003, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 27504 times:
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I haven't seen this mentioned here earlier; SAS is going to fly NRT-KRN (!) 4 times this winter. SK 984 will make a stop in Kiruna before continuing to CPH.

Source; Local press here and http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/16/sk-tyokrn-dec12/
According to the local press, the flights are more or less fully booked already by Japanese travel agencies.


User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 123, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 27324 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 83):
Norwegian is starting several routes to Las Palmas the coming winter with flights from TOS, EVE, AES, HAU, RYG and BLL. All with 1x weekly flights

And now two weeks later your info starts being found on international sites as well  http://atwonline.com/airports-routes...ches-10-new-las-palmas-routes-0720

Quote:
Norwegian launches 10 new Las Palmas routes

Norwegian (DY) is increasing its presence in Las Palmas (LPA), Canary Island, from the end of October/early November.

The carrier will launch one weekly service to LPA from the Norway cities of Alesund, Evenes, Haugesund, Rygge and Tromso. From Sweden, DY will launch new LPA routes from Karlstad, Malmo and Umea. In addition, DY will launch weekly flights to LPA from Billund/Denmark and Oulu/Finland.

DY is also increasing service from 2X-weekly to 3X-weekly on LPA routes from Torp, Bergen, Trondheim and Stavanger. DY will increase its Oslo-LPA service to 8X-weekly; Stockholm Arlanda-LPA service from 3X-weekly to 4X-weekly; and Copenhagen-LPA service from 3X-weekly to 5X-weekly.

Also in the international press today,

West Atlantic looks at different fleet replacements.

Quote:
West Atlantic mulls different fleet replacement route

West Atlantic, Europe’s largest regional cargo airline, is looking at taking more Boeing 737s as it seeks to renew its fleet.

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...erent-fleet-replacement-route-0720

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 112):
Gulf Air since 01JUL12 has introduced Premium-Airbus A320 aircraft to its Bahrain – Copenhagen daily operation, 3 months earlier than planned.

How often do they need a fuel diversion with the A320 flying such a long sector? Do they have extra fuel tanks?

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 120):
I wonder when QR will start sending bigger aircraft like the 77W or 346 to OSL.

I wonder about that my self. It was nice seeing the A340-500 from Thai. The A346 and 77W would of course be a welcomed sight for us plane spotters. Not that I dislike the A332. I really like that in the QR livery.



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User currently offlineco38 From Norway, joined May 2009, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 27151 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 117):
along with a fully loaded cargo belly on every flight.

What kind of cargo would that be?
Mostly salmon I guess(?)

But with the amount of salmon exported from Norway, one would think that would help attract more Inter Continental (passenger) flights to destinations that has a market for Norwegian fish. Like Japan, Korea, Miami(?) etc.
Since that would lower the number of passengers needed to make the flights profitable.

Does anyone know how much the airlines earn per ton of freight (i.e salmon) hauled ?


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 125, posted (2 years 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 26861 times:

http://m.estonian-air.ee/en/about-us...ies-in-the-coming-winter-schedule/

Estonian is to start a 4x weekly TLL-GOT service from February 1 2013


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 126, posted (2 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 26766 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 120):
I wonder when QR will start sending bigger aircraft like the 77W or 346 to OSL.

The 9 weekly are still not confirmed by Qatar, just uploaded into the system. Until OSL receives a formal confirmation of the two additional flights, it could be an error.

As a mention earlier, Qatar aims to reach 14 weekly flights from OSL rather than upgrading capacity to a larger aircraft's (more connections). That would mean 330 and 787 type of material rather than the 777.


User currently offlinesas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 127, posted (2 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 26920 times:

And it was an error. QR now loaded with daily flights from OSL instead of 9x weekly. It means that QR will fly daily to all of the three Scandinavian capitals from 01 JAN 2013 with a mix of A332/333.

User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (2 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 26914 times:

Quoting sas767 (Reply 127):
And it was an error.

Not sure it was an error, but it has been revised at least. From airlineroutes.

QATAR Airways Revises Planned Oslo Service Increase from Jan 2013
by JL
Update at 2050GMT 23JUL12

As per 23JUL12 GDS timetable and inventory display, QATAR Airways has updated its schedule, which now sees Doha – Oslo service increase from 5 weekly to daily from 01JAN13. Previously the system was showing increase to 9 weekly and all flights accepting for reservation.

Despite the change, the airline retains its plan to split operation into two banks, providing additional options to other destinations.

Schedule:

QR955 DOH0125 – 0655OSL 332 246
QR953 DOH0800 – 1330OSL 332 x246

QR956 OSL1100 – 1925DOH 332 246
QR954 OSL1500 – 2325DOH 332 x24



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 129, posted (2 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 26532 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 230):

Asiana cargo will operate their GOT service from OSL this summer. A temporary operation lasting 3 weeks due to maintenance work at GOT. This flight is usually packed with freight from Norway (mainly fish) lorried down from the west coast of Norway. Lower operating costs @ GOT (including the cost of transportation out of Norway) has been the main reason for the freighter service to operate from Sweden. Asiana are not able to gain launch support from OSL as Korean are already operating a service to Seoul. Add to that, GOT has very competitive incentives for freighter services.

Therefore I'm glad to See Asiana @ OSL this summer and hopefully their temporary presence would bring the nonsense pricing incentives of AVINOR up for discussion!
Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 231):
There is one company in GOT that books more than a fair bit on that freighter that wouldnt use Asiana anymore if they moved their base to OSL. A company whose products are a lot mroe important for Asiana and a lot more heavy than fish.
They are the reason Asiana flies to GOT and Asiana isnt flying to GOT for Norweigian fish. Better keep that straight.

Add on that this company has a rather large base in South Korea with a huge production facility where Asiana has freight contracts.
The likelihood of Asiana cargo moving feels very very slim...
Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 232):

Well I've recently been involved in a process in regards to Asiana and another cargo operator, so we obviously share some different information here That being said, my post said nothing about a suspension of GOT, but a swift of capacity to carry out fish directly from OSL with Asiana. Fish are also send with Asiana from other airports than GOT.

Asiana will unfortunately terminate GOT from the middle of September. Asiana will instead move all operations to OSL with the first flight beginning 20.september. Asiana will serve OSL twice weekly on Tuesdays and Fridays.

Asiana accepts almost 40% higher operational cost than @ GOT when they now move to their operations to OSL.
That's a great acceptance of the potential fright yield from OSL! Since Korean already are serving OSL - Seoul, Asiana will not receive reduced fees for the first 3 years of operations.

Press-release due next week.


User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 414 posts, RR: 0
Reply 130, posted (2 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 26399 times:

Have "the new" Cimber started their flights yet? Booked on CPH-BLL-CPH in late September/early October which is SK to be operated by QI. Probably the first time I've booked flights on an airline that I'm not sure actually exists in reality yet...

User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (2 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 26387 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 130):
Have "the new" Cimber started their flights yet? Booked on CPH-BLL-CPH in late September/early October which is SK to be operated by QI. Probably the first time I've booked flights on an airline that I'm not sure actually exists in reality yet...

Yes, they took over the operations started by the "konkursbo" on May 5th.

/Lars



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User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 132, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 25913 times:

Air France will open a new service to Gothenburg from Lyon from september, replacing City airline (Skyways).

AIRFRANCE from 17SEP12 introduces Lyon – Gothenburg service, with 6 weekly operations on board Embraer ERJ145 aircraft.

Schedule:

AF3224 LYS1500 – 1725GOT ER4 5
AF3224 LYS1730 – 1955GOT ER4 x56

AF3225 GOT1800 – 2030LYS ER4 5
AF3225 GOT2030 – 2300LYS ER4 x56

http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/30/af-lysgot-sep12/


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 133, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 25321 times:

Norwegian flew 1,82 million passengers in July up 14%

RPK: +15%
ASK: +18%
Load factor: 87% -2pp

Punctuality was down to 78,8% due to ATC issues in Norway
http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/attach...ffic%20Jul%202012.pdf&attId=102180


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 134, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 24903 times:

July traffic numbers for the 3 largest airports.

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 129):
Asiana will unfortunately terminate GOT from the middle of September. Asiana will instead move all operations to OSL with the first flight beginning 20.september. Asiana will serve OSL twice weekly on Tuesdays and Fridays.

Asiana Cargo have today announced OSL as their new european destination.
First flight will be friday 7.sept.

More info presented @ newstodate.aero


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 135, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 24886 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 134):

July traffic numbers for the 3 largest airports

Forgot the numbers?  

CPH: 2.313.542 +1,3%

International: 2.188.360 +4,1%
Domestic: 125.182 -31,1%

Transfer +6,4%, international transfer up, domestic down. Collapse in domestic trafikk due to Cimber-Sterling bankruptcy. Oslo, Frankfurt and Berlin increases mot of top 10 routes, while Aalborg, Amsterdam and London are the biggest loosers

OSL: 2.072.534, +5,0%
International: 1.315.465, +6,2%
Domestic: 757.069, +3,1%

Copenhagrn and Tromsø biggest gainers of top 10 routes with 11% growth, while London, Trondheim and Stockholm all has a small decline

ARN: 1.719.042 +2,5%
International: 1.433.903 +3%
Domestic: 285.139 -1%


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 136, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 24864 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 135):
Forgot the numbers?

Haha, must be a hangup form a previous attempt of a post last week.
Thanks for correcting 


User currently offlineCPHFF From Sweden, joined Aug 2011, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 24488 times:

It's gotten very quiet in this forum. I guess most are still on holiday, and the wives won't let you log in?  


So what are you thoughts on SK's financial report last week?

I'm bewildered as to the fact that approximately 10 Billion SEK (900 MEURO) in Pension commitments have "been hidden", and must be levied directly towards their operating result in 2013. This seriously hamperes their cash flow as well as dramatically reduces their funds. I know that many on here would like nothing better than for SK do go bankrupt, but I for one love SAS, but their operationg costs are still way to high.

There's a lot of speculation (especially in Swedish newspapers) that the Governments of Norway, Denmark and Sweden will have to inject more cash in to the airline within the next 18 Months, unless the situation improves drastically. I'm not familiar with the "type of cash injection" they are talking about, but wouldn't this border on "State Subsidy" and thus illegal in the EU?

Cheers,

Per



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User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 138, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 24441 times:
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Quoting CPHFF (Reply 137):
but wouldn't this border on "State Subsidy" and thus illegal in the EU?

Yes it would. And guess who is the loudest voice to complain about it  

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User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 4
Reply 139, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24198 times:

I just want to show you what has happened the last year with the regards to changes in passenger growth.



User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 24093 times:

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 139):
I just want to show you what has happened the last year with the regards to changes in passenger growth.

OK, so the graph shows passenger growth. How does that correspond to the million passenger designation on the vertical axis? or is it percent? or accumulated passengers in a 12 month period? Looking at CPH they had an increase of 250.000 pax from Juli 2011 including June 2012. However, that doesn't correspond to the blue line (which is around 750.000).



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User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 4
Reply 141, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 24065 times:

As it says in the heading of the graph - 12 months growth
CPH had in 12 months leading up to the end of July 2011 22,474,942 passengers and this year it was 23,209,643. In other words the growth in one year was +734,701 passengers at the end of July this year for CPH. The comparable growth number ARN was +1,135,900 passengers and for OSL +1,262,850 passengers.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 142, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 23774 times:

Some fleet news this week:

Another (used) 737-700 to SAS was ferried to PVG for modification into SAS standard. The aircraft in LN1226/CN33418 and is formed VH-VBO with Virgin Australia. To become SE-REX, but not sure when expected in traffic

While in Renton, two new -800s to Norwegian had their first flights this week: LN-NGC (LN4157/CN39016) and LN-NGD (LN4161/CN39049) and should both be delivered within a few weeks


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 143, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 23765 times:

I think it's about time SAS did something with the Scandinavian lounges at CPH, ARN and OSL they are all beginning to show their age and are falling well behind the accepted standard for *Gold lounges.

User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 144, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 23741 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 143):

I think it's about time SAS did something with the Scandinavian lounges at CPH, ARN and OSL

I don't think it is too bad (at least in OSL), there are many other *G lounges around the world that are worse. But, they might have a good opportunity to do something about it in OSL with the new pier being built.

Personally, I would rather have the same standard of lounge, but access to it from domestic as well, hopefully the new pier can have a lounge with access for both.

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 145, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 23522 times:

I was in the Turkish lounge in Istanbul a couple of weeks ago, it is outstanding, excellent food, fine selection of beverages, friendly attentive staff, I'm not expecting something like this but SAS could at least match the LH Senator lounges.

User currently offlineCPHFF From Sweden, joined Aug 2011, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 23212 times:

Just out of curiousity, what is the difference between the SK Business Lounge and The Scandinavian Lounge at CPH?
I've been to the Business Lounge several times, but never in the "upstairs"



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 147, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 23211 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 145):

I was in the Turkish lounge in Istanbul a couple of weeks ago, it is outstanding, excellent food, fine selection of beverages, friendly attentive staff, I'm not expecting something like this but SAS could at least match the LH Senator lounges.

I know, but that one is world class. As for SK lounges, I think SK have other things to spend their money on, but given the opportunity (ie new pier at OSL), they should develop something world class.

Don't get me wrong, SK lounges aren't outstanding, but they're not too bad either, and look quite Scandinavian, which I like.

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 146):
Just out of curiousity, what is the difference between the SK Business Lounge and The Scandinavian Lounge at CPH?
I've been to the Business Lounge several times, but never in the "upstairs"

As far as I know, SK business lounge is for business class passengers, while Scandinavian Lounge is one-up, for gold card (including *G) members. It's a bit like LH, they have business class and senator lounges, where senator is for First class and gold card members (although, obviously SK doesn't have first class).

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 148, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22996 times:

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 146):
Just out of curiousity, what is the difference between the SK Business Lounge and The Scandinavian Lounge at CPH?
I've been to the Business Lounge several times, but never in the "upstairs"

Very little, most of the food and drink selection is the same, in the Scandinavian lounge they have hotdogs on Fridays, the Business lounge doesn't get them.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 147):

Don't get me wrong, SK lounges aren't outstanding, but they're not too bad either, and look quite Scandinavian, which I like.

There's nothing wrong with the look, it's just the content that's lacking

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 147):
I think SK have other things to spend their money on, but given the opportunity (ie new pier at OSL), they should develop something world class.

I haven't read anything about and lounge developments in the new terminal, I would love it if domestic passengers also had access, unless the govt drops it's unethical stance on earning ffp on domestic services that's not going to happen.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 149, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 22825 times:

SE-DIB, another MD-87 from SAS (and ex Spanair) left yesterday for part out and scrap to IGM. While today, SE-REU, another used 737-700 on lease from GECAS arrived at ARN for some last modification before being placed in SAS traffic

User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3982 posts, RR: 34
Reply 150, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 22732 times:

Two small tit bits of BA news.
The BA818/819 at CPH will be operated by a B767 for this winter from 28 Oct, except Sat.

And if any ARN travellers want to travel on a long haul B767, the BA780/1 will be operated by a flat bed aircraft from Nov 05 to 18.


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 151, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 22572 times:

SAS to sell SGS.

The employees was informed yesterday that SAS will put up SGS for sale next monday.
If SAS are unable to find a buyer, SGS will be shot down within a short period of time.


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 152, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 22818 times:

I was on a long haul 767 from ARN to LHR a couple of months ago... Was cool! Feels a lot more spacious and the crew turned on the entertainment for those that had headphones with them.


Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 22437 times:

Seems like AC is changing their mind again. First they changed it to 4 weekly (in some weeks). Then those plans were cancelled only to be revised again:

Further revision to planned operation. Service operates 4 weekly instead of 3 from 17DEC12 to 06JAN13 and from 18FEB13 to 29MAR13
AC882 YYZ2055 – 1045+1CPH 763 x357
AC883 CPH1215 – 1450YYZ 763 x146

Service operates Day 246 from YYZ, Day 357 from CPH from 28OCT12 to 16DEC12 and from 07JAN13 to 17FEB13



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 154, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 22244 times:

Lufthans reductions for Scandinavia W12/13

Frankfurt – Bergen Service reduces from 3 to 2 daily
Frankfurt – Copenhagen Service reduces from 5 to 4 daily

Hamburg – Stockholm Service reduces from 19 to 16 weekly

Nordic reductions:

Frankfurt – Helsinki Service reduces from 4 to 3 daily
Berlin Tegel – Helsinki Service reduces from daily to 6 weekly

http://airlineroute.net/2012/08/23/lh-europe-w12/


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 155, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 22019 times:

As expected: Ryan has withdraw all their slot applications from CPH  

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 156, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 21562 times:

Wizz plan to start a 2x weekly service BEG-TRF from May 31 2013

This will be their 9th route to TRF

[Edited 2012-08-30 00:56:48]

User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 157, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 21324 times:

Congratulations to Gothenburg Landvetter airport who will receive a new high speed rail link to downtown Gothenburg and Borås.

The decision was made this week to build Götalandsbanan, linking Borås and Gothenburg with to Landvetter Airport.
The journey will take 15 minutes from central Gothenburg.

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/inr...ik/1.1049340-gladje-pa-flygplatsen


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 158, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 21240 times:

Asiana schedule for OSL

Seoul Incheon – St. Petersburg – Vienna – Oslo – Seoul Incheon
OZ771 ICN2330 – 0310+1LED0610+1 – 0625+1VIE0815+1 – 1020+1OSL 74F 1
OZ772 OSL1310 – 0535+1ICN 74F 2

Seoul Incheon – Moscow Domodedovo – Vienna – Oslo – Seoul Incheon
OZ783 ICN0935 – 1310DME1500 – 1555VIE1750 – 1950OSL 74F 5
OZ784 OSL2145 – 1410+1ICN 74F 5

http://airlineroute.net/2012/08/31/ozc-dfwosl-sep12/


User currently offlinearn777 From Sweden, joined Jul 2010, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 159, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 20969 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 158):

Great to see them at OSL, they are sure needed. But too bad SQ Cargo did not finalize their OSL operations. I also read that Korean Cargo's loads at OSL is over 50 % of their total loades in Scandinavia. Source NewsToDate.


User currently offlinearn777 From Sweden, joined Jul 2010, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 160, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 20969 times:

Norwegian celebrates its tenth birthday today and have published this video on TV (in Norwegian): http://www.norwegian.no/tiaar

"Norway, with a history of explorers and wanting to travel out. But the average Joe has been held back by high prices and poor selection of routes. But this is just the beginning. Norwegian will continue to expand and soon to every continent".

Great ad and well aimed against SAS neglecting the Norwegian market for years. They are also playing Griegs "Åses death" (SAS' bankruptcy...?).


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5981 posts, RR: 3
Reply 161, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 20714 times:

So, apparently a group of investors are going to sue the Danish government, because they've been refused permission to build a competing, privately owned loco terminal at CPH.

The thought that springs to my mind is, has this been done anywhere else in the world? Where you have a privately owned terminal building competing with the airport owners/operators for the flights?


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 162, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 20704 times:

Quoting arn777 (Reply 160):
soon to every continent".

I'm liking that part  

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlineCPHFF From Sweden, joined Aug 2011, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20339 times:

I read somewhere in the past on A.net that SK was going to bring WiFi to their Aircraft. Is that still in the plans, and does any one know when and which type of Aircraft will get it?

The free WiFi on Norwegian makes up for the lack of legroom, and I've started to chose Norwegian over SK for this reason (if flight schedule is similar)



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 164, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20307 times:

So, today OSL opened the new temporary domestic south pier. Very needed.

Although, I don't think it will be temporary, and the only reason it was 'temporary' is so that they could keep costs down, and not build it with jetways, stores, or anything beyond the basic amenities (which is fine by me, at least something was built quickly, and now they can focus on the real upgrades).

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 165, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20273 times:

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 163):
I read somewhere in the past on A.net that SK was going to bring WiFi to their Aircraft. Is that still in the plans, and does any one know when and which type of Aircraft will get it?

They are rolling it out on their fleet as we speak. It's still free. Only 737-800 has been installed with WiFi yet, AFAIK.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 164):
Although, I don't think it will be temporary, and the only reason it was 'temporary' is so that they could keep costs down, and not build it with jetways, stores, or anything beyond the basic amenities (which is fine by me, at least something was built quickly, and now they can focus on the real upgrades).

Agreed. I do however think jetways would have been a good choice to install. Still understandable that they didn't though, seeing as it's "temporary" and all.

Martin


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 166, posted (1 year 11 months 7 hours ago) and read 20022 times:

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 165):
Agreed. I do however think jetways would have been a good choice to install. Still understandable that they didn't though, seeing as it's "temporary" and all.

Quite a few bridges were removed from the domestic pier to make way for the construction. I don't understand why these couldn't have been recycled in the new temporary pier. They recycled old jetways at TLL when the terminal was extended.

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 163):
I read somewhere in the past on A.net that SK was going to bring WiFi to their Aircraft. Is that still in the plans, and does any one know when and which type of Aircraft will get it?

I was lucky enough to fly on an SAS 737-800 (LN-RCY) from OSL to TRD the other week with free wifi. Was great (and fast). Was taking photos on my phone and iMessaging my friends from the air. Pity it was such a short flight but pretty cool. Also getting onto wifi on SK equipped aircraft is simpler than on Norwegian. Took like 5 seconds.



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3395 posts, RR: 2
Reply 167, posted (1 year 11 months 4 hours ago) and read 19933 times:

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 88):
It took over five years to build OSL from scratch - construction start 13 August 1933 and grand opening 8 October 1998.

GDM was not built from scratch. There was already a runway there.

Anybody know how DAT is doing on their routes out of RYG.



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User currently offlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 563 posts, RR: 0
Reply 168, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 19746 times: