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Official New England Aviation Thread #13  
User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 639 posts, RR: 3
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 12736 times:

It's been over a year since the last thread. It got locked due to off topic discussion, so let's PLEASE keep this one on topic!

I'm back at PWM, working as much as I can. Figured I'd kick this thread off with a tradition from the old threads, my picture of the week:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/555243_4123918820027_286616099_n.jpg

Two KC-135 Stratotankers were doing touch and go's a few weeks ago at PWM. Absolutely amazing to witness.  

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User currently offlinelat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12610 times:

With the CFM engines. Don't know if any with the Pratts still around

User currently offlinepvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12556 times:

PVD had visits from a KC-135 a few weeks back as well. Pretty amazing sight.

User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12518 times:

When will construction begin on the new runway extension at PVD?

User currently onlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 863 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12493 times:

There doesn't seem to be much new on the commercial front in BTV. The hot topic of the moment is the F-35; lots of vocal opposition but plenty of support as well.

I saw a few interesting visitors over the past couple of months, starting with President Obama's visit in March:


And one of the support aircraft. I saw one of these do an amazingly short takeoff starting at around the midpoint of the runway:


Lastly a charter for the University of Vermont men's basketball team:


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12484 times:

So I've been temping for CTPS, and many of our projects have been at Logan. At one point I rode the Blue Line all the way to the end for the first time in 11 years and saw Constitution Beach. It isn't quite Boston's answer to Maho Beach, but holy crap, that is a planespotter's paradise! I have stopped by there during breaks at work and watched the planes. One day I saw the 747 diverted from JFK. That thing is huge! I was hoping it was an A380, but oh well. I also saw the 787 there another time as well. I also saw the US side of Terminal B and Terminal A for the first time (just the landsides though). I was able to walk around from Terminal A to E, then C, then the US side of Terminal B before I had a hard time finding my way back to Terminal A. It is largely idiot-proof except for that final stretch. I also love the rocking chairs in the hallway between Terminals C and A/B. It's a shame there is no landside area that is good for planespotting (aside from a few glimpses of the tarmac).


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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12364 times:

The airport that is seeing a bit of interesting action is Pease. I shot this Southern Air 747 there a couple weekends ago. Pease maintains their 747s, and one is there nearly every few days. Also, there is a bit more CRAF traffic passing through Pease these days. Not anywhere near what Bangor gets, but more than before.

Southern Air 747 at KPSM


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12283 times:

Nice to see the New England thread going again. Thanks PWMRamper.

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 4):
The hot topic of the moment is the F-35; lots of vocal opposition but plenty of support as well.

I really can't fathom the opposition. The Air Guard brings big $$$ and skilled technical jobs to the area, and the opposition would dismiss these benefits on account of a very modest increase in noise level. And talking about noise, let's not forget that the area somehow grew and prospered during the days of the F-4.....

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 4):
I saw a few interesting visitors over the past couple of months

Any news about Porter Airlines? The remarkably warm winter probably took a huge bite out of their ski package business. I'm thinking they may not be back next winter, but here's to hoping.


User currently offlinelat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12252 times:

New Southwest schedule reaching into January will be released on Monday 04 JUN. Supposedly, there will be some significant changes systemwide beyond the seasonal adjustments. AirTran naturally, will be further integrated but how will New England's airports be affectd by this. We shall see.

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12237 times:

I think the real 'big' thing with respect to this is Southwest metal up in Portland, but someone here also posted a rumor (not heard elsewhere) that MHT-ATL will be coming. That seems far-fetched to me. But like you said: We shall see.

User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 12166 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):

From what I've heard at the airport, Southwest is not due to move into PWM until October 2013, among the last, if not the last, FL to WN conversion.


User currently offlinebexf27 From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 12165 times:

Hi all!!!

Does anyone know when Penair will start service to PQI???? City pair to BOS is on the sight but was unable to book a flight for the fun of it. It will be so kewl to have that airline here in New England. I am so glad I get to read about New England news again. I hope it lasts if you know what I mean.

Bexf27



Planes I flew: 707, 727-100, 727-200, DC9, DC10, 747, L1011, 757, 767, A300, 777, PAN, F27, Shorts 330 and 360, 1900,
User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11907 times:

Wow, quite a day at PWM today...

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/603134_4254541245506_12113997_n.jpg

YV 3760 ORD-PWM diverted to MHT.
EV 4310 CLE-PWM diverted to MHT.

Pea sized hail, numerous lightning strikes. A DL MD-88 had a lightning strike on arrival into PWM. Lightning struck the runway, no significant damage.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11707 times:

Sorry to double post....

PWM had a couple visitors today!

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542445_4287485509092_2035137697_n.jpg

Anyone know why?


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11680 times:

Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 13):
PWM had a couple visitors today!

Can't answer your question. But the one on the right with the special scheme is from the VFA-37 Ragin Bulls strike fighter squadron based @ NAS Oceana, VA. It's also the CAG's airplane (CAG=Commander of the Air Group). Or what some call " the boss bird". That makes it pretty rare. Nice catch.


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 11632 times:

See those pods slung beneath each F-18? They will be filled with Lobsters for the flight back down the coast.

User currently onlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 863 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11585 times:

I saw this in BTV a few days ago:



I had to do some research just to find out what it was. Then I saw another one land a few days later. They were at the Army National Guard ramp, so maybe doing something related to the Guard's annual training.


User currently offlinepvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11495 times:

9K seasonal service started yesterday at PVD. Other than that, things there are fairly quiet.

User currently offlineairportugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3665 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11490 times:

Quoting pvd757 (Reply 17):

indeed...also 9K started PVC-HPN...a little something-something new



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11446 times:

So I think that there is a lot of good things heading our way at BOS. With the 787, a Middle East/Indian carrier should be coming our way. I wonder who it will be? EK? TK? QR? AI? 9W?

I wonder if EI would move to Terminal C with B6, especially as I believe there are rumors here that they will move to T5 at JFK, so it would make sense. It would give WN more room as well, and I'd like to see them expand a bit because competition with B6 will keep prices modest.

A question about what used to be Terminal D- how many gates are there, or were there? I've heard it's three, but I could've sworn that when I flew out of there in 2005 there were five. Did they close two gates?

And how long until B6 enters PVD? It's obvious that it's coming soon...



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11434 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
So I think that there is a lot of good things heading our way at BOS. With the 787, a Middle East/Indian carrier should be coming our way. I wonder who it will be? EK? TK? QR? AI? 9W?

I think Qatar said they were coming to Boston as soon as the 787s arrive.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
And how long until B6 enters PVD? It's obvious that it's coming soon...

There are a lot of 'experts' who declare it's going to happen any hour now...
  


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 11424 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 20):
There are a lot of 'experts' who declare it's going to happen any hour now...

But David Barger himself has said via Twitter that he hopes to be there "real soon", I wonder what's keeping them?



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 11414 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 21):
But David Barger himself has said via Twitter that he hopes to be there "real soon", I wonder what's keeping them?

In fairness, he's doing what touring CEOs do: singing the praises of every city he visits.


User currently offlinepvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11253 times:

Not sure whats going on with that but those tweets keep the rumor birds chirping! I hope it really happens.

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11090 times:

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 18):
indeed...also 9K started PVC-HPN...a little something-something new

Are you sure about that? I havent seen that anywhere. Would be nice though!



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25 Post contains links RL757PVD : Some interesting news from PVD/RIAC... Kevin Dillon is resigning having sucessfully obtained all of the FAA approvals for the runway extension. http:/
26 Post contains links and images PWMRamper : A small GA plane crashed into the water near Portland Head Light today, the pilot was killed. DL's got daily A319 service from PWM-LGA now, and from w
27 GentFromAlaska : Occasionally I read about a flight crossing the pond from Europe who diverts to BGR to refuel. In 1972 as a youngster I remember landing in Bangor on
28 MAV88 : Where's he headed? The article didn't specify.
29 RL757PVD : A few days later news came out that he is going to the new CT Aviation Authority, which is pretty much the CT version of RIAC (though does not includ
30 737tanker : Both Bangor and Pease are no longer active duty bases. Bangor closed as an active base in 1968 while Pease closed in 1991. While both are civilian ba
31 Post contains links blr380 : PWM gets LEED Gold certified. Nice to know that this is the second airport (after SFO) in the United States to achieve this certification. Kudos to al
32 blr380 : BTV to lose MCO service? B6 has been trimming their Orlando routes from New England. Any idea B6 might resume MCO service from PWM at least? Currently
33 RL757PVD : I wonder how much that is related to the rapid growth at Plattsburgh? On some days Allegiant actually runs some flights as double daily.
34 MAV88 : Massport released their numbers for May. Passenger numbers at BOS through the first 5 months stand at 11,553,820, up 3.3% over this time period for 20
35 RL757PVD : Its not the unemployment is the airline consolidation and 15%+ reduction in seats... The UA/CO merger has resulted in a sharp loss in seats, plus fal
36 Post contains links and images pwm2txlhopper : As somebody who tracks daily activity at both PSM and BGR, I've also noticed a definite increase in activity at PSM involving heavy transports. Over
37 Post contains links pwm2txlhopper : It was also ranked most affordable airport in New England this past spring. I haven't traveled to BOS to catch a flight in about six years. It's alwa
38 MAV88 : BOS-PHX is being dropped in favor of adding BOS-BNA, so it's not a loss in seats.
39 GentFromAlaska : Interesting the McGuire and Dover flight(s) would stop in BGR on the outbound leg of the journey unless they had an inflight emergency in that they o
40 RL757PVD : But still overall I think you will see competition slowly wane at BOS.... i.e. WN abandoning PHX/PHL, AA/DL retrenching to core markets etc. One inte
41 Post contains images NBGSkyGod : LEB had a rare visitor last week an LC-130H to take ACE camp kids up for a spin around Vermont and New Hampshire. Some other good news up here, a leas
42 Post contains links MikeCT : There's a lot of talk about BGR in this thread which reminded me of an article about the diversions they get. http://tinyurl.com/79yvm8g They seem ver
43 ChrisNH : The FedEx 757 that did the Memphis-Portland, Maine run this morning just flew down to Pease so it can be on static display during the big weekend air
44 PWMRamper : I was wondering where it was today...
45 ChrisNH : The Southern Air 747s coming into Pease from short-distance airports (including, many times, O'Hare!) are doing so not because they need more fuel, b
46 GentFromAlaska : Fair enough. In my mind these have to be planned maintenance stops or freighters not carrying passengers. For the McGuire and BWI chartered flights w
47 ChrisNH : With a C-5 or a C-17, 'more fuel' is simply a matter of hooking up with a KC-10 or KC-135 up around northern Maine; there are several refueling tracks
48 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Yeah I checked KSUU (Travis AFB) KDOV (Dover AFB) and KEDF (Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage Alaska). Although a lot of charter flights are shown; military
49 ChrisNH : Yes! I'm quite familiar with LiveATC.net and helped the founder out when I worked for Apple. He lives nearby me here in southern NH and I got him sev
50 GentFromAlaska : Correction PANC
51 ChrisNH : Not sure how many were aware of this, but the Pentagon has chosen Burlington, VT as a base for the new F-35A. The Green Mountain Boys currently have a
52 Post contains links and images PWMRamper : Picture of the week...a gorgeous rainbow at PWM following a nasty week of Thunderstorms. In other news...there's a chance I'm moving out of New Englan
53 Post contains links mjgbtv : It's not final yet. There is some outspoken opposition, notably from some of the neighboring community governments, but the comments in response to n
54 ChrisNH : Sounds like the South Burlington City Council is a bunch of always-angry, whacked-out people who somehow think the F-35A is going to be disrupting pea
55 Post contains images mjgbtv : There are some Navy and RCAF F/A-18s here in BTV for a few days. That's not too unusual, but at least one of the Navy planes is in adversary paint whi
56 chrisnh : That's awesome! Is that supposed to be North Korean-looking?
57 Post contains links mjgbtv : Here's something unusual. This PHL-BTV flight managed to fly over all six New England states. At the time there was a line of thunderstorms stretching
58 tharanga : that's a good catch. just clipped maine.
59 Post contains links and images B595 : It mimics the standard scheme of the Russian Su-27: View Large View MediumPhoto © SergeyL It appears that the USAirways Dash-8 service BTV-LGA has f
60 Post contains links and images PWMRamper : Picture of the week is one of my first at PWM with my new dSLR. Delta Air Lines A319 waiting to pull into Gate 8:
61 Vasu : Does anyone have any useful information about the AC b1900 flights into PWM? I am flying the route in late August... Do they have a set gate at PWM? A
62 blr380 : AC uses a shared counter and gate with UA. They park in Gate 1 (which has a long walkway for A B & C stands). The flights are usually full, espec
63 PWMRamper : Have AC's CS number on speed dial. Agents aren't trained in rebooking or anything, so if the plane is late (and it frequently is) you have to call Ai
64 chrisnh : Within days of each announcement, JetBlue noted the termination of Burlington-Orlando service and the start of PVD service. Are these events related?
65 lat41 : I think B6 fleet is pinched from what I hve read. Reductions at IAD also happened around the same time. In the overall scheme they may be related but
66 GentFromAlaska : Received a WN Ding alert today announcing a fare between BWI-MHT for $66 each way valid for travel every day in September. I'm assuming travel can ori
67 Post contains links NBGSkyGod : Lebanon Airport is coming to a crossroads soon. A proposal to extend runway 18/36 to 6,000' has been brought before the city counsel. This proposal is
68 mjgbtv : Why would that be? I couldn't figure that out from the document. And out of curiosity, what are the largest aircraft that have been at LEB?
69 N766UA : Since when has a runway extension ever decreased jet service?
70 chrisnh : I think maybe because the extension comprises 'unusable' length...not usable? So it is a 'lengthening' and a 'shortening' all at the same time? That's
71 NBGSkyGod : The extension of the safety area will be taken from the useable runway lengths. So 7/25 will go from 5500 to 4500'. The largest aircraft we have ever
72 ICEBIRD757 : About 2 weeks ago, I was in the pool at my in-laws place in Glastonbury, CT when I saw what appeared to be a E-3 on departure out of BDL but it had no
73 Post contains links and images NBGSkyGod : Sounds like it may have been either an Omega Tanker or an E-6B. View Large View MediumPhoto © KS OngView Large View MediumPhoto © Barry Shipley
74 GentFromAlaska : F9 has announced it will select six new routes across the next week or so. Four of the six are in existing states the carrier already serves ; two wil
75 GentFromAlaska : Correction PWM-MCI service
76 B595 : Someone on this site (in the New Republic/Frontier thread, I believe) said that Frontier has done well with its MCO focus city/mini-hub. Because of F
77 Post contains links and images PWMRamper : Picture of the week is a beautiful sunset at PWM. I do love working outside this time of year...
78 Vasu : What's the weather like this time of year? Not long until my visit now...
79 Post contains links mjgbtv : Apparently BTV is not letting JetBlue drop BTV-MCO without a fight, or at least an explanation: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...odyssey=tab|top
80 B595 : Interesting that Sen. Leahy is involved... a lot of his constituents must be complaining about the loss of service. I'm not holding my breath, but ma
81 chrisnh : These days, airports are losing all sorts of service where loads are this high (or even higher). It must be 'yields,' which are much more mysterious
82 RL757PVD : Was BTV-MCO on an E190 or a A320? I can see an E190 being tough to make a profit with. Its too bad B6 doesnt do much saturday only flying.
83 Post contains links Rhodylee : Here's another flight that went over all 6 New England states - plus a bunch more: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/J...2/history/20120726/1742Z/KL
84 mjgbtv : I assume yield takes into account how much people pay. I can see fares being a significant variable on a traditional carrier where there could be mor
85 B595 : It was regular A320 for at least the first season and maybe as long as the first year, but thereafter it's always been E190. I share RL757PVD's senti
86 Post contains images mjgbtv : Another unusual visitor to BTV today. I have noticed CV-580/CV-5800s before on Flightaware but I have never managed to see one for myself until now:
87 Post contains images rob2507 : Didn't expect to be in the area yesterday, but things changed and I was able to get over to Black Falcon around 11:15 AM. Had to take this with my pho
88 mjgbtv : Does anyone know what happened to N294JB at BTV yesterday (8/22)? It was on the ramp away from the gate with several vehicles and people around it whe
89 PWMRamper : Great State of Maine Airshow is Fri-Sun. Thunderbirds will be in town.
90 BOStonsox : So Dave Barger, the CEO of B6 was in ORH yesterday. If ORH gets Cat III Landing equipment upgrades, there seems to be a good chance the B6 would start
91 mjgbtv : Why Cat III? Is fog a problem?
92 chrisnh : All things being equal, there isn't much of a list of 'advantages' to Worcester Airport. For every good thing about the place, you can come up with tw
93 alphaomega : They couldn't put the squeeze on SW, but could make things very nice for B6 and allow B6 to put the squeeze on them. I think SW has stuck to areas th
94 Post contains images chrisnh : A pair of Southern Air 747s at Pease yesterday (August 23).
95 BOStonsox : Tatnuck Hill is known to be quite foggy, yes, and B6 has shown concern about the fog there. Massport will pay for the upgrades.
96 blr380 : Just got back home (PWM) from ATL: Had a great time with the new A320 upgrade. Ty DL and the excellent service offered. Hope to see more upgrades for
97 GentFromAlaska : Beginning tomorrow I'm traveling in Maine for a week. We lodge at Portsmouth NH tomorrow night. Our trip has us flying from BNA-MDW-PVD and renting a
98 pvd757 : As one of many New Englanders on this forum, I'd like to wish you a fantastic journey through our beloved region! If you have lots of luggage, make su
99 Post contains links mjgbtv : A different kind of 'unusual visitor' at BTV today: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
100 Post contains links and images PWMRamper : Picture this week is a beautiful sunset at PWM...
101 Post contains images Vasu : I can add a PWM picture to this thread (from my holiday in Maine last month!)
102 Post contains images mats01776 : JAL 008, a 787-8, landing on RWY27, BOS on Sep. 16, 2012: [Edited 2012-09-18 03:06:02]
103 PWMRamper : Quite a hectic day at PWM this afternoon... EV6160 PWM-ORD had a significant fuel leak on takeoff. The tower notified the Crew, but I was also told a
104 Post contains links mjgbtv : It is official that Porter is coming back to BTV this winter, and they are actually doubling the frequency to 4 flights per week. Here is a link to a
105 B595 : That's great news. With the ski season in recent years being so unreliable, it would be a good thing if they can sustain a summer service.
106 PWMRamper : And it happened again. AX 3385 IAD-PWM had a flap issue, causing them to burn off most of their fuel and land with no flaps. Met by ARFF, Portland, S
107 PWMRamper : Sorry to double post but I just got word that Air Wisconsin lost the Ground Handling contract with United in PWM, so in one month I'll be out of a job
108 B595 : Sorry to hear that.... it's been fun reading your posts from downeast PWM. Here's wishing you a smooth transition. I got to ride Air Wisconsin back w
109 Post contains links airbazar : Looks like DL is restarting BOS-CDG seasonal service, next Summer. http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1724
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