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Official New England Aviation Thread #13  
User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12788 times:

It's been over a year since the last thread. It got locked due to off topic discussion, so let's PLEASE keep this one on topic!

I'm back at PWM, working as much as I can. Figured I'd kick this thread off with a tradition from the old threads, my picture of the week:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/555243_4123918820027_286616099_n.jpg

Two KC-135 Stratotankers were doing touch and go's a few weeks ago at PWM. Absolutely amazing to witness.  

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User currently offlinelat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12662 times:

With the CFM engines. Don't know if any with the Pratts still around

User currently offlinepvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3418 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 12608 times:

PVD had visits from a KC-135 a few weeks back as well. Pretty amazing sight.

User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12570 times:

When will construction begin on the new runway extension at PVD?

User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12545 times:

There doesn't seem to be much new on the commercial front in BTV. The hot topic of the moment is the F-35; lots of vocal opposition but plenty of support as well.

I saw a few interesting visitors over the past couple of months, starting with President Obama's visit in March:


And one of the support aircraft. I saw one of these do an amazingly short takeoff starting at around the midpoint of the runway:


Lastly a charter for the University of Vermont men's basketball team:


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12536 times:

So I've been temping for CTPS, and many of our projects have been at Logan. At one point I rode the Blue Line all the way to the end for the first time in 11 years and saw Constitution Beach. It isn't quite Boston's answer to Maho Beach, but holy crap, that is a planespotter's paradise! I have stopped by there during breaks at work and watched the planes. One day I saw the 747 diverted from JFK. That thing is huge! I was hoping it was an A380, but oh well. I also saw the 787 there another time as well. I also saw the US side of Terminal B and Terminal A for the first time (just the landsides though). I was able to walk around from Terminal A to E, then C, then the US side of Terminal B before I had a hard time finding my way back to Terminal A. It is largely idiot-proof except for that final stretch. I also love the rocking chairs in the hallway between Terminals C and A/B. It's a shame there is no landside area that is good for planespotting (aside from a few glimpses of the tarmac).


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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12416 times:

The airport that is seeing a bit of interesting action is Pease. I shot this Southern Air 747 there a couple weekends ago. Pease maintains their 747s, and one is there nearly every few days. Also, there is a bit more CRAF traffic passing through Pease these days. Not anywhere near what Bangor gets, but more than before.

Southern Air 747 at KPSM


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 12335 times:

Nice to see the New England thread going again. Thanks PWMRamper.

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 4):
The hot topic of the moment is the F-35; lots of vocal opposition but plenty of support as well.

I really can't fathom the opposition. The Air Guard brings big $$$ and skilled technical jobs to the area, and the opposition would dismiss these benefits on account of a very modest increase in noise level. And talking about noise, let's not forget that the area somehow grew and prospered during the days of the F-4.....

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 4):
I saw a few interesting visitors over the past couple of months

Any news about Porter Airlines? The remarkably warm winter probably took a huge bite out of their ski package business. I'm thinking they may not be back next winter, but here's to hoping.


User currently offlinelat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12304 times:

New Southwest schedule reaching into January will be released on Monday 04 JUN. Supposedly, there will be some significant changes systemwide beyond the seasonal adjustments. AirTran naturally, will be further integrated but how will New England's airports be affectd by this. We shall see.

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12289 times:

I think the real 'big' thing with respect to this is Southwest metal up in Portland, but someone here also posted a rumor (not heard elsewhere) that MHT-ATL will be coming. That seems far-fetched to me. But like you said: We shall see.

User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12218 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):

From what I've heard at the airport, Southwest is not due to move into PWM until October 2013, among the last, if not the last, FL to WN conversion.


User currently offlinebexf27 From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12217 times:

Hi all!!!

Does anyone know when Penair will start service to PQI???? City pair to BOS is on the sight but was unable to book a flight for the fun of it. It will be so kewl to have that airline here in New England. I am so glad I get to read about New England news again. I hope it lasts if you know what I mean.

Bexf27



Planes I flew: 707, 727-100, 727-200, DC9, DC10, 747, L1011, 757, 767, A300, 777, PAN, F27, Shorts 330 and 360, 1900,
User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11959 times:

Wow, quite a day at PWM today...

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/603134_4254541245506_12113997_n.jpg

YV 3760 ORD-PWM diverted to MHT.
EV 4310 CLE-PWM diverted to MHT.

Pea sized hail, numerous lightning strikes. A DL MD-88 had a lightning strike on arrival into PWM. Lightning struck the runway, no significant damage.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11759 times:

Sorry to double post....

PWM had a couple visitors today!

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542445_4287485509092_2035137697_n.jpg

Anyone know why?


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11732 times:

Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 13):
PWM had a couple visitors today!

Can't answer your question. But the one on the right with the special scheme is from the VFA-37 Ragin Bulls strike fighter squadron based @ NAS Oceana, VA. It's also the CAG's airplane (CAG=Commander of the Air Group). Or what some call " the boss bird". That makes it pretty rare. Nice catch.


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11684 times:

See those pods slung beneath each F-18? They will be filled with Lobsters for the flight back down the coast.

User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11637 times:

I saw this in BTV a few days ago:



I had to do some research just to find out what it was. Then I saw another one land a few days later. They were at the Army National Guard ramp, so maybe doing something related to the Guard's annual training.


User currently offlinepvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3418 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11547 times:

9K seasonal service started yesterday at PVD. Other than that, things there are fairly quiet.

User currently offlineairportugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3680 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11542 times:

Quoting pvd757 (Reply 17):

indeed...also 9K started PVC-HPN...a little something-something new



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11498 times:

So I think that there is a lot of good things heading our way at BOS. With the 787, a Middle East/Indian carrier should be coming our way. I wonder who it will be? EK? TK? QR? AI? 9W?

I wonder if EI would move to Terminal C with B6, especially as I believe there are rumors here that they will move to T5 at JFK, so it would make sense. It would give WN more room as well, and I'd like to see them expand a bit because competition with B6 will keep prices modest.

A question about what used to be Terminal D- how many gates are there, or were there? I've heard it's three, but I could've sworn that when I flew out of there in 2005 there were five. Did they close two gates?

And how long until B6 enters PVD? It's obvious that it's coming soon...



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11486 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
So I think that there is a lot of good things heading our way at BOS. With the 787, a Middle East/Indian carrier should be coming our way. I wonder who it will be? EK? TK? QR? AI? 9W?

I think Qatar said they were coming to Boston as soon as the 787s arrive.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
And how long until B6 enters PVD? It's obvious that it's coming soon...

There are a lot of 'experts' who declare it's going to happen any hour now...
  


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11476 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 20):
There are a lot of 'experts' who declare it's going to happen any hour now...

But David Barger himself has said via Twitter that he hopes to be there "real soon", I wonder what's keeping them?



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11466 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 21):
But David Barger himself has said via Twitter that he hopes to be there "real soon", I wonder what's keeping them?

In fairness, he's doing what touring CEOs do: singing the praises of every city he visits.


User currently offlinepvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3418 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11305 times:

Not sure whats going on with that but those tweets keep the rumor birds chirping! I hope it really happens.

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 11142 times:

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 18):
indeed...also 9K started PVC-HPN...a little something-something new

Are you sure about that? I havent seen that anywhere. Would be nice though!



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 25, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11283 times:

Some interesting news from PVD/RIAC... Kevin Dillon is resigning having sucessfully obtained all of the FAA approvals for the runway extension.

http://news.providencejournal.com/br...ews/2012/06/ri-airport-chie-1.html



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User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 26, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11122 times:

A small GA plane crashed into the water near Portland Head Light today, the pilot was killed.


DL's got daily A319 service from PWM-LGA now, and from what I hear they're going to be replacing the MD-88 with the A320 down to ATL.

Picture of the week is a busy morning at PWM:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/552947_4164354310889_846644821_n.jpg


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 27, posted (2 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 11139 times:

Occasionally I read about a flight crossing the pond from Europe who diverts to BGR to refuel. In 1972 as a youngster I remember landing in Bangor on a military charter from FRA to McGuire AFB in NJ. I want to say we were on the ground for some two hours. Even back then they wouldn't let us deplane after flying for six and having six hours extra added to our day.

I was under the impression BGR was more a military base who shared runways with the local community very much like HNL does with Hickam AFB in Hawaii.

Does anybody know if Pease AFB in New Hampshire is still a military base. From what I read above it continues to operate as a scaled down version of its former self. I was under the impression the Base Realignment And Closing (BRAC) closed or downsized Pease in the 1990's

I'm planning a trip to Maine in late August. Our travels will take us up the coast to Calais.



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User currently offlineMAV88 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (2 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 11091 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 25):
Some interesting news from PVD/RIAC... Kevin Dillon is resigning having sucessfully obtained all of the FAA approvals for the runway extension.

http://news.providencejournal.com/br....html

Where's he headed? The article didn't specify.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 29, posted (2 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 11088 times:

Quoting MAV88 (Reply 28):
Where's he headed? The article didn't specify.

A few days later news came out that he is going to the new CT Aviation Authority, which is pretty much the CT version of RIAC (though does not include all airports in the state).



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User currently offline737tanker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (2 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 11002 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 27):
Does anybody know if Pease AFB in New Hampshire is still a military base

Both Bangor and Pease are no longer active duty bases. Bangor closed as an active base in 1968 while Pease closed in 1991. While both are civilian bases they do have some military as they both have Air National Guard units. Bangor has the Maine Air National Guard with KC-135s and Pease has the NH Air National Guard also with KC-135s.


User currently offlineblr380 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10901 times:

PWM gets LEED Gold certified. Nice to know that this is the second airport (after SFO) in the United States to achieve this certification. Kudos to all the great work in revamping the airport - looks great! Still waiting for some takers for the empty gates (WN r u hearing us?)

http://www.pressherald.com/business/...o-get-LEED-Gold-certification.html

PS: Thanks a lot PWMRamper for bringing this forum alive - have been missing this thread for a long time.


User currently offlineblr380 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10870 times:

BTV to lose MCO service? B6 has been trimming their Orlando routes from New England.
Any idea B6 might resume MCO service from PWM at least?
Currently, the only B6 New England destinations from MCO are Hartford and Boston. BGR does great with G4 and hopefully they will pick up some of the routes dropped by B6 and FL/WN.

[Edited 2012-06-27 08:22:35]

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 33, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10862 times:

Quoting blr380 (Reply 32):
BTV to lose MCO service? B6 has been trimming their Orlando routes from New England.
Any idea B6 might resume MCO service from PWM at least?

I wonder how much that is related to the rapid growth at Plattsburgh? On some days Allegiant actually runs some flights as double daily.



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User currently offlineMAV88 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10845 times:

Massport released their numbers for May. Passenger numbers at BOS through the first 5 months stand at 11,553,820, up 3.3% over this time period for 2011. Looks to be a record breaking year at the airport.

PVD sits at 1,471,519 through May, down 2.52% from 2011. Looks like the unemployment situation is hurting the airport.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 35, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10836 times:

Quoting MAV88 (Reply 34):
PVD sits at 1,471,519 through May, down 2.52% from 2011. Looks like the unemployment situation is hurting the airport.

Its not the unemployment is the airline consolidation and 15%+ reduction in seats... The UA/CO merger has resulted in a sharp loss in seats, plus fallout from the LGA/DCA slot swap and WN's lack of growth overall as an airline.

Hardly anythign RI specific but more the industry in general, BOS is up thanks to competition from B6, WN and NK, but some of those things like NK-DFW and the B6 response may be short lived as NK is already cutting DFW, and BOS-PHX on WN (which elicited a B6 response) is also being dropped.



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User currently offlinepwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1351 posts, RR: 1
Reply 36, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10823 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 6):
The airport that is seeing a bit of interesting action is Pease. I shot this Southern Air 747 there a couple weekends ago. Pease maintains their 747s, and one is there nearly every few days. Also, there is a bit more CRAF traffic passing through Pease these days. Not anywhere near what Bangor gets, but more than before.

As somebody who tracks daily activity at both PSM and BGR, I've also noticed a definite increase in activity at PSM involving heavy transports. Over the last several months, no more than a few days has gone by without visits by the heavy equipment.. Often, up to three have come through during a single day.

Most of these flights have been coming out of Dover or McGuire AFB en-route to Germany. Therefore, it's safe to assume these are military charters? Something that's been common at Bangor for a decade, but not so common at Pease. It's nice to see more commercial activity at PSM!

I've also noticed both a VIP 767-200 and 777-200, used by a Saudi Arabian Prince, have also been occasionally parking at PSM for a few days after arriving in the USA from Saudi Arabia. Both jets usually ferry up from JFK or EWR, stay a couple of days and then return to the middle east. Just a few weeks ago, the 767 came through PSM en-route to/from Saudi Arabia twice within two days.

The 777 is registered N777AS, and pictured below. It even has a disco floor in the cabin!


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Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 27):

I was under the impression BGR was more a military base who shared runways with the local community very much like HNL does with Hickam AFB in Hawaii.

Does anybody know if Pease AFB in New Hampshire is still a military base. From what I read above it continues to operate as a scaled down version of its former self. I was under the impression the Base Realignment And Closing (BRAC) closed or downsized Pease in the 1990's

As mentioned Bangor International Airport, formally Dow AFB closed in the late 1960's. It is now a commercial airport owned and operated by the town, and is also an official U.S. Customs Port of Entry. An international arrival terminal with customs processing facility was constructed at BGR during the mid 1970's to service commercial airliners flying from Europe to the West Coast before longer range aircraft came alone. Also, it was quicker for passengers to go through customs at BGR than somewhere like LAX or SFO which might have been the final destination.

During it's peak during the late 1970's, BGR handled somewhere in the ballpark of 3,000 international passenger flights per year. Airlines such as Pan Am, TWA, Laker Airways, were common daily visitors. Things began to slow down during the 1980's. By the 1990's most of the international flights passing through BGR were charters from Europe to points in Mexico, Caribbean, and Florida. These days, BGR handles more military troops charters than anything else. Usually, 4-6 daily, along with cargo flights, transient military operations by NATO members, occasional passenger charters from U.K. to Florida, lots of private jets, and the regularly scheduled airline flights.

You really have no idea what you might see at BGR at any given day!

Pease AFB closed in 1991. Last aircraft a left in 1990. When it closed, Pease was a SAC base with F-111's and KC-135's. It was also designated an emergency landing site for the space shuttle. (As well as BGR) The NHANG has maintained a base flying KC-135's out of PSM since the closure, however.

Since it's closure, the airfield part of the base is largely utilized. There was a passenger terminal built with a single jetway sometime during the 1990's. Pan am IV, Skybus, etc, have all attempted to serve the airport with commercial service unsuccessfully over the past decade. Until recently, PSM only saw sporadic charter flights. These days, activity seems to be picking up? Not anywhere close to the levels at BGR, but nevertheless increasing!

I'm glad to see this. It's such an under utilized piece of aviation real estate. One of the longest runways on the East Coast, vast unused ramp space, large hangers, customs processing. I took the photo below while climbing out of PWM several years back. As you can see, PSM is a massive airport.



[Edited 2012-06-27 11:03:13]

User currently offlinepwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1351 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10773 times:

Quoting blr380 (Reply 31):
PWM gets LEED Gold certified. Nice to know that this is the second airport (after SFO) in the United States to achieve this certification. Kudos to all the great work in revamping the airport - looks great! Still waiting for some takers for the empty gates (WN r u hearing us?)

It was also ranked most affordable airport in New England this past spring. I haven't traveled to BOS to catch a flight in about six years. It's always been same price or cheaper out of PWM. Even going international.

PWM Most Affordable Airport in Region-May 25,2012

http://www.portlandjetport.org/news/...irfares-are-more-affordable-boston

Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 26):


DL's got daily A319 service from PWM-LGA now, and from what I hear they're going to be replacing the MD-88 with the A320 down to ATL.

Portland has not had any mainline DL service other than the MD-88 since 1999. (And, the 737-200 for a very brief period around 2003) When they discontinued the morning 727 flying PWM-ALB-ATL during fall 1999, we've been primarily an all MD-88 station ever since. Interesting to see a new type coming in for DL, but I'd rather see the loud, smoky -88's at PWM than the Airbuses.

[Edited 2012-06-27 11:18:57]

User currently offlineMAV88 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10744 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 35):
Its not the unemployment is the airline consolidation and 15%+ reduction in seats... The UA/CO merger has resulted in a sharp loss in seats, plus fallout from the LGA/DCA slot swap and WN's lack of growth overall as an airline.

Hardly anythign RI specific but more the industry in general, BOS is up thanks to competition from B6, WN and NK, but some of those things like NK-DFW and the B6 response may be short lived as NK is already cutting DFW, and BOS-PHX on WN (which elicited a B6 response) is also being dropped.

BOS-PHX is being dropped in favor of adding BOS-BNA, so it's not a loss in seats.


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 39, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10716 times:

Quoting pwm2txlhopper (Reply 36):
Most of these flights have been coming out of Dover or McGuire AFB en-route to Germany. Therefore, it's safe to assume these are military charters?

Interesting the McGuire and Dover flight(s) would stop in BGR on the outbound leg of the journey unless they had an inflight emergency in that they originated 600 or so miles to the south. It seems to me BGR would be used for flights originating in Europe or the U.K. flying to the U.S.



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 40, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10731 times:

Quoting MAV88 (Reply 38):
BOS-PHX is being dropped in favor of adding BOS-BNA, so it's not a loss in seats.

But still overall I think you will see competition slowly wane at BOS.... i.e. WN abandoning PHX/PHL, AA/DL retrenching to core markets etc.

One interesting thing is this fall PVD will have the only flight west of the Rockies outside of BOS (LAS).



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User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 832 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10623 times:

LEB had a rare visitor last week an LC-130H to take ACE camp kids up for a spin around Vermont and New Hampshire.



Some other good news up here, a lease has been signed for the restaurant space in the main terminal, no word on when it will open, Signal Aviation will be under new local management and changing its name to Granite Air Center, and our new flight school will be starting a part 135 charter operation with a Cessna 421.



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User currently offlineMikeCT From United States of America, joined May 2008, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10543 times:

There's a lot of talk about BGR in this thread which reminded me of an article about the diversions they get.

http://tinyurl.com/79yvm8g

They seem very well prepared for this type of thing.


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 43, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10441 times:

The FedEx 757 that did the Memphis-Portland, Maine run this morning just flew down to Pease so it can be on static display during the big weekend air show there. It seems to make a lot of sense because that plane just sits all weekend in Portland anyway, after coming in from Memphis. Ordinarily the Saturday flight is operated by a 727-200, but since they knew they needed a 757 at Pease, they upgraded to a 757.

User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 44, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10333 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 43):

The FedEx 757 that did the Memphis-Portland, Maine run this morning just flew down to Pease so it can be on static display during the big weekend air show there. It seems to make a lot of sense because that plane just sits all weekend in Portland anyway, after coming in from Memphis. Ordinarily the Saturday flight is operated by a 727-200, but since they knew they needed a 757 at Pease, they upgraded to a 757.

I was wondering where it was today...


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 45, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10302 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 39):
Interesting the McGuire and Dover flight(s) would stop in BGR on the outbound leg of the journey unless they had an inflight emergency in that they originated 600 or so miles to the south. It seems to me BGR would be used for flights originating in Europe or the U.K. flying to the U.S.

The Southern Air 747s coming into Pease from short-distance airports (including, many times, O'Hare!) are doing so not because they need more fuel, but because maintenance needs to be done on them. They'll stay until the work is done, then go onto wherever they are needed (often Germany). I'm going to the Pease Air Show today so I will see if one is parked there. I doubt it, and even so...it wouldn't be a 'static display' aircraft.


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 46, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 10183 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 45):
The Southern Air 747s coming into Pease from short-distance airports (including, many times, O'Hare!) are doing so not because they need more fuel, but because maintenance needs to be done on them. They'll stay until the work is done, then go onto wherever they are needed (often Germany). I'm going to the Pease Air Show today so I will see if one is parked there. I doubt it, and even so...it wouldn't be a 'static display' aircraft.

Fair enough. In my mind these have to be planned maintenance stops or freighters not carrying passengers. For the McGuire and BWI chartered flights with passengers aboard; many which are commercial airframes it must be a significant inconvenience for the passengers if they have to stop in BGR for maintenance on the outbound leg after only flying for an hour or so. I could see a ferry flight crossing the pond empty to originate a flight in Europe back to the U.S. although I understand commercial charter flights try to go out with people in both directions.

I've flown Air Force gray metal as a passenger from Hickam AFB in Hawaii to Travis AFB in north central Cali. On one flight we were 1/3 (roughly 2 hours) in flight out of Hono over the pacific. The aircraft commander opted to turn back to Hickam in lieu of continuing to Travis. I guess two hours back is better than flying four hours forward with nothing but ocean below you. This flight taught me military metal follows the ETOPS guidelines whether or not they have too.

I would think Air Force metal originating at Dover AFB would turn back to Dover as Dover is the largest AFB on the east coast and Travis AFB on the left coast. Both bases see a lot of C-5 Galaxy and C-17. As military metal goes a spotters paradise.



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 47, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10084 times:

With a C-5 or a C-17, 'more fuel' is simply a matter of hooking up with a KC-10 or KC-135 up around northern Maine; there are several refueling tracks around northern New England. So they wouldn't need to land because of that. The Southern Air 747s that routinely come into Pease are there for maintenance; Pease has a contract with the airline. In fact, I was at the Pease show yesterday and a Southern Air 744 was there.

I wish it were easier for me to keep track of the AF C-5s & C-17s ('REACH' flights) that come through Bangor & Pease. They never show up on FlightAware, but the Bangor Yahoo Group I founded has members who diligently keep track of their comings & goings. In fact, one member from Europe alerts the rest of us when something interesting is coming our way!


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 48, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10036 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 47):
I wish it were easier for me to keep track of the AF C-5s & C-17s ('REACH' flights) that come through Bangor & Pease. They never show up on FlightAware

Yeah I checked KSUU (Travis AFB) KDOV (Dover AFB) and KEDF (Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage Alaska). Although a lot of charter flights are shown; military metal appears absent in flightaware. Years ago it did populate. I did see a Southern Air 747 yesterday which originated at KSUU flew to KANC down to Aleutains to Kadena AFB Japan.

If you don't already have it Live ATC chat is available here http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=all KBGR is on the list. I would think you would be able to pick up some of the military squawk. Also if you have a VHF/UHF radio those frequencies are listed in airnav.com



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 49, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9890 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 48):
If you don't already have it Live ATC chat is available here http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=all KBGR is on the list. I would think you would be able to pick up some of the military squawk. Also if you have a VHF/UHF radio those frequencies are listed in airnav.com

Yes! I'm quite familiar with LiveATC.net and helped the founder out when I worked for Apple. He lives nearby me here in southern NH and I got him several iPad2s when they first came out and were tough to get. He was building out his mobile app. It's probably one of my favorite aviation web sites, in addition to this one as well as PlaneFinder.net and FlightAware!

I live too far from Bangor to pick up anything over a radio, and besides, streaming feeds almost eliminate the 'need' to have one...unless you're at an air show like I was this past weekend at Pease!


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 50, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9876 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 48):
KANC

Correction PANC



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 51, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9730 times:

Not sure how many were aware of this, but the Pentagon has chosen Burlington, VT as a base for the new F-35A.

The Green Mountain Boys currently have a squadron of F-16s.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 52, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9767 times:

Picture of the week...a gorgeous rainbow at PWM following a nasty week of Thunderstorms.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/552548_3691698048257_1797883435_n.jpg


In other news...there's a chance I'm moving out of New England soon. Looking at working elsewhere...I'll of course keep you all posted.


User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9680 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 51):
the Pentagon has chosen Burlington, VT as a base for the new F-35A.

It's not final yet. There is some outspoken opposition, notably from some of the neighboring community governments, but the comments in response to news reports seem largely in support of the F-35. Here is an article from today which is short but seems to sum up the status pretty well:

http://www.wcax.com/story/18951488/l...s-is-reliable?clienttype=printable


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 54, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9627 times:

Sounds like the South Burlington City Council is a bunch of always-angry, whacked-out people who somehow think the F-35A is going to be disrupting peace & tranquility...that already has been so-called 'disrupted' by F-16s.

User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9456 times:

There are some Navy and RCAF F/A-18s here in BTV for a few days. That's not too unusual, but at least one of the Navy planes is in adversary paint which I haven't seen before:



User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 56, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9376 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 55):
There are some Navy and RCAF F/A-18s here in BTV for a few days. That's not too unusual, but at least one of the Navy planes is in adversary paint which I haven't seen before:

That's awesome! Is that supposed to be North Korean-looking?


User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 9174 times:

Here's something unusual. This PHL-BTV flight managed to fly over all six New England states. At the time there was a line of thunderstorms stretching from PHL to BOS:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...0/history/20120718/1750Z/KPHL/KBTV


User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 58, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9110 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 57):
Here's something unusual. This PHL-BTV flight managed to fly over all six New England states. At the time there was a line of thunderstorms stretching from PHL to BOS:

that's a good catch. just clipped maine.


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9085 times:

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 56):
Is that supposed to be North Korean-looking?

It mimics the standard scheme of the Russian Su-27:


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User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 60, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9057 times:

Picture of the week is one of my first at PWM with my new dSLR.

Delta Air Lines A319 waiting to pull into Gate 8:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/557295_4459651653138_930127468_n.jpg


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3966 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9006 times:

Does anyone have any useful information about the AC b1900 flights into PWM? I am flying the route in late August... Do they have a set gate at PWM? Are the flights usually busy? Any other useful information?

Last time I visited family in Maine, I used BGR, but prices at the time of booking were much higher this time around!


User currently offlineblr380 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8979 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 61):
Does anyone have any useful information about the AC b1900 flights into PWM? I am flying the route in late August... Do they have a set gate at PWM? Are the flights usually busy? Any other useful information?

AC uses a shared counter and gate with UA. They park in Gate 1 (which has a long walkway for A B & C stands). The flights are usually full, especially in summer time. I remember AC added a third daily flight from PWM last summer to meet the demand. Best wishes on your visit to ME!


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 63, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8922 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 61):
Does anyone have any useful information about the AC b1900 flights into PWM? I am flying the route in late August... Do they have a set gate at PWM? Are the flights usually busy? Any other useful information?

Last time I visited family in Maine, I used BGR, but prices at the time of booking were much higher this time around!

Have AC's CS number on speed dial. Agents aren't trained in rebooking or anything, so if the plane is late (and it frequently is) you have to call Air Canada to rebook.



Recently they've been hard standing the aircraft at Gate 2 instead of Gate 1, which requires walking up the stairs. Still boards from the Gate 1 area though.


User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 64, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8734 times:

Within days of each announcement, JetBlue noted the termination of Burlington-Orlando service and the start of PVD service. Are these events related? In other words, did JetBlue need to yank a route away so it could serve PVD?

User currently offlinelat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8720 times:

I think B6 fleet is pinched from what I hve read. Reductions at IAD also happened around the same time. In the overall scheme they may be related but not deliberate.

User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 66, posted (2 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 8553 times:

Received a WN Ding alert today announcing a fare between BWI-MHT for $66 each way valid for travel every day in September. I'm assuming travel can originate at either airport.


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User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 832 posts, RR: 1
Reply 67, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8329 times:

Lebanon Airport is coming to a crossroads soon. A proposal to extend runway 18/36 to 6,000' has been brought before the city counsel. This proposal is in response to the requirement to add 500' of safety area at the end of each runway. Once this is done, LEB will no longer be able to support the larger jet aircraft that we currently support.

http://www.lebnh.net/news/draftenvironmentalassessmentnotice

The FAA will be funding most of the project, however the city will have to spend between $600,000 and $1.2 million of its own money, plus keep the airport operating for another 15 years. Or some of the counsel members can get their wish and turn LEB into apple orchards.



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User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8249 times:

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 67):
no longer be able to support the larger jet aircraft

Why would that be? I couldn't figure that out from the document.

And out of curiosity, what are the largest aircraft that have been at LEB?


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8339 posts, RR: 23
Reply 69, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8235 times:

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 67):
Once this is done, LEB will no longer be able to support the larger jet aircraft that we currently support.

Since when has a runway extension ever decreased jet service?



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User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 70, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8211 times:

I think maybe because the extension comprises 'unusable' length...not usable? So it is a 'lengthening' and a 'shortening' all at the same time? That's the only thing I can come up with.

User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 832 posts, RR: 1
Reply 71, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8123 times:

The extension of the safety area will be taken from the useable runway lengths. So 7/25 will go from 5500 to 4500'.

The largest aircraft we have ever had was a BBJ twice a few years ago, however we do regularly see G550s, Globals, and Embraer Legacy jets. The city gave up its part 139 certification a few years ago, so we will likely never see BBJs again unless they get that back, and the city claims that it will return the part 139 if there is a requirement for it, until then 9k will continue to serve us very well.



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User currently offlineICEBIRD757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 666 posts, RR: 2
Reply 72, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8040 times:

About 2 weeks ago, I was in the pool at my in-laws place in Glastonbury, CT when I saw what appeared to be a E-3 on departure out of BDL but it had no disk on top. It was light grey or white with what I believe to be black wording behind the wing. It was definitely a 707 family member a/c. Just wondering if anyone else saw it or know what it might be.

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User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 832 posts, RR: 1
Reply 73, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8027 times:

Sounds like it may have been either an Omega Tanker or an E-6B.


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 74, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8022 times:

F9 has announced it will select six new routes across the next week or so. Four of the six are in existing states the carrier already serves ; two will be new states. Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode island and Connecticut are some of the New England states F9 does not currently serve. Outside of their charter ops I don't see them returning to BOS. They also have previously served BDL

As appearances go F9 has attempted to stay from airports WN serves or where WN has a minimal footprint. Its fair to say New England as a whole has about a 50/50 chance of gaining new service. I saw some of the wish-list guesses for Burlington, Vermont on the F9 Facebook page.

Other states F9 does not serve are Alabama, Hawaii, Idaho, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia and Delaware (Delaware has no regularly scheduled commercial service to anywhere) I think its safe to rule out Hawaii.

Although it requires connecting It looks like PWM and MHT are well represented by other carriers all who offer service to the F9 big three which are DEN, MCI and MCO. I didn't see any PWM-MCO service though.

If New England pans out my thoughts were possibly PVD for the greater Boston catchment around Hwy 128 and I-495.



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 75, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7975 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 74):
PWM-MCO service

Correction PWM-MCI service



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User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 76, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7877 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 74):
I saw some of the wish-list guesses for Burlington, Vermont on the F9 Facebook page.

Someone on this site (in the New Republic/Frontier thread, I believe) said that Frontier has done well with its MCO focus city/mini-hub. Because of Frontier's success in Orlando, there was speculation that Frontier might give BTV-MCO a try once JetBlue stops flying the route. That would be interesting if it pans out. Never in a million years would I have expected Frontier to serve BTV.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 77, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7755 times:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/373823_4552365050915_1158961486_n.jpg

Picture of the week is a beautiful sunset at PWM. I do love working outside this time of year...


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3966 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7602 times:

Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 77):
Picture of the week is a beautiful sunset at PWM. I do love working outside this time of year...

What's the weather like this time of year? Not long until my visit now...


User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7570 times:

Apparently BTV is not letting JetBlue drop BTV-MCO without a fight, or at least an explanation:

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

If the loads are 85 to 92 percent like the airport states I wonder how much better the aircraft can do on another route?

I also wonder what JetBlue expects to happen with these passengers? Are the loads on the current BTV-JFK-MCO flights low enough to absorb an extra ~90 people per day? Or are they willing to give them up to other airlines?


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7517 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 79):
Apparently BTV is not letting JetBlue drop BTV-MCO without a fight

Interesting that Sen. Leahy is involved... a lot of his constituents must be complaining about the loss of service.

I'm not holding my breath, but maybe they can convince JetBlue to retain the route on a seasonal basis.


User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 81, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7473 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 79):
If the loads are 85 to 92 percent like the airport states I wonder how much better the aircraft can do on another route?

These days, airports are losing all sorts of service where loads are this high (or even higher). It must be 'yields,' which are much more mysterious metrics that almost render Load Factor useless.

Here at MHT we've lost service to Las Vegas and Phoenix despite loads that were as high as this...routinely.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4706 posts, RR: 11
Reply 82, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7476 times:

Was BTV-MCO on an E190 or a A320? I can see an E190 being tough to make a profit with. Its too bad B6 doesnt do much saturday only flying.


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User currently offlineRhodylee From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 85 posts, RR: 4
Reply 83, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7403 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 57):
Here's something unusual. This PHL-BTV flight managed to fly over all six New England states. At the time there was a line of thunderstorms stretching from PHL to BOS:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A.../KBTV

Here's another flight that went over all 6 New England states - plus a bunch more:


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/J...2/history/20120726/1742Z/KLAX/KJFK


User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 84, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7325 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 82):
It must be 'yields,'

I assume yield takes into account how much people pay. I can see fares being a significant variable on a traditional carrier where there could be more or less first class or business travel, and you might figure that flights to MCO would be heavy on leisure travel and therefore relatively low yielding. However, I don't see how fares could vary too much on a LCC like JetBlue.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 82):
Was BTV-MCO on an E190 or a A320?

It has been an E190 for quite a while. I found a thread from a few years ago which mentioned an A320, but I don't think that lasted too long if it was ever regular at all.


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7286 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 84):
I found a thread from a few years ago which mentioned an A320, but I don't think that lasted too long if it was ever regular at all.

It was regular A320 for at least the first season and maybe as long as the first year, but thereafter it's always been E190.

I share RL757PVD's sentiments - if you can barely fill a once-daily E190 at questionable yields (according to JetBlue), is there really a market worth pursuing?


User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7068 times:

Another unusual visitor to BTV today. I have noticed CV-580/CV-5800s before on Flightaware but I have never managed to see one for myself until now:



User currently offlinerob2507 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6887 times:

Didn't expect to be in the area yesterday, but things changed and I was able to get over to Black Falcon around 11:15 AM. Had to take this with my phone, didn't have a camera with me, but here's Sunday's JAL 8 on final with the USS Constitution waaaay in the background, passing in front of Spectacle Island.


User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6716 times:

Does anyone know what happened to N294JB at BTV yesterday (8/22)? It was on the ramp away from the gate with several vehicles and people around it when I passed by at around 8:30am. It spent the rest of the day on the ramp and is now in the Heritage Aviation hangar (as much of it as fits anyway!)

User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 89, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6709 times:

Great State of Maine Airshow is Fri-Sun. Thunderbirds will be in town.

User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6691 times:

So Dave Barger, the CEO of B6 was in ORH yesterday. If ORH gets Cat III Landing equipment upgrades, there seems to be a good chance the B6 would start service there. Let's hope they do.


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User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6635 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 90):
If ORH gets Cat III Landing equipment upgrades

Why Cat III? Is fog a problem?


User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 92, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6617 times:

All things being equal, there isn't much of a list of 'advantages' to Worcester Airport. For every good thing about the place, you can come up with two or three things that aren't. But Worcester Airport has Massport, which can make JetBlue's life at Logan VERY 'comfortable' if the airline agrees to 'play ball' in Worcester. JetBlue could say, "We'll set up four daily flights at Worcester if you put the squeeze on Southwest at Logan."

User currently offlinealphaomega From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6602 times:

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 92):
All things being equal, there isn't much of a list of 'advantages' to Worcester Airport. For every good thing about the place, you can come up with two or three things that aren't. But Worcester Airport has Massport, which can make JetBlue's life at Logan VERY 'comfortable' if the airline agrees to 'play ball' in Worcester. JetBlue could say, "We'll set up four daily flights at Worcester if you put the squeeze on Southwest at Logan."

They couldn't put the squeeze on SW, but could make things very nice for B6 and allow B6 to put the squeeze on them. I think SW has stuck to areas that don't directly compete with B6, including changing the FL schedules to remove MCO service, etc so I think the squeeze would be more on DL.


User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 94, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 6536 times:

A pair of Southern Air 747s at Pease yesterday (August 23).

2 Southern Air 747s (possibly both 744s) at Pease


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (2 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 6496 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 91):
Why Cat III? Is fog a problem?

Tatnuck Hill is known to be quite foggy, yes, and B6 has shown concern about the fog there. Massport will pay for the upgrades.



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User currently offlineblr380 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 96, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6278 times:

Just got back home (PWM) from ATL: Had a great time with the new A320 upgrade. Ty DL and the excellent service offered. Hope to see more upgrades for PWM!
Any idea when the LGA flights become all A319s?

[Edited 2012-08-27 15:51:53]

User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 97, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

Beginning tomorrow I'm traveling in Maine for a week. We lodge at Portsmouth NH tomorrow night. Our trip has us flying from BNA-MDW-PVD and renting a car in PVD. I hope to put PWM and BGR on my drive by list. Our turn around point is Calais ME. before heading back to PVD and flying back to BNA in a week.


Man can be taken from Alaska. Alaska can never be taken from the man.
User currently offlinepvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3418 posts, RR: 16
Reply 98, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6150 times:

As one of many New Englanders on this forum, I'd like to wish you a fantastic journey through our beloved region! If you have lots of luggage, make sure to look for the courtesy cart that runs between the terminal and the rental car counters at PVD - it makes it easier.

User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5942 times:

A different kind of 'unusual visitor' at BTV today:

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 100, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5901 times:

Picture this week is a beautiful sunset at PWM...

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/551979_4673815287095_390511116_n.jpg


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3966 posts, RR: 0
Reply 101, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5709 times:

I can add a PWM picture to this thread (from my holiday in Maine last month!)



User currently offlinemats01776 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 102, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5461 times:
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JAL 008, a 787-8, landing on RWY27, BOS on Sep. 16, 2012:
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User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 103, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5287 times:

Quite a hectic day at PWM this afternoon...

EV6160 PWM-ORD had a significant fuel leak on takeoff. The tower notified the Crew, but I was also told a person driving on I-95 noticed the leak and called 911.

Plane had an emergency return, met by ARFF, along with the Portland, South Portland, and Westbrook FD.

Landed safe and there was no need for any evacuation, left late this evening with zero passengers.


User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

It is official that Porter is coming back to BTV this winter, and they are actually doubling the frequency to 4 flights per week. Here is a link to a press release: http://www.skivermont.com/about-us/press-room/press-release/id/412

The BTV Facebook page also says that they are also extending service into the summer.


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 104):
It is official that Porter is coming back to BTV this winter, and they are actually doubling the frequency to 4 flights per week. Here is a link to a press release: http://www.skivermont.com/about-us/press-room/press-release/id/412

The BTV Facebook page also says that they are also extending service into the summer.


That's great news. With the ski season in recent years being so unreliable, it would be a good thing if they can sustain a summer service.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 106, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 103):

Quite a hectic day at PWM this afternoon...

EV6160 PWM-ORD had a significant fuel leak on takeoff. The tower notified the Crew, but I was also told a person driving on I-95 noticed the leak and called 911.

Plane had an emergency return, met by ARFF, along with the Portland, South Portland, and Westbrook FD.

Landed safe and there was no need for any evacuation, left late this evening with zero passengers.

And it happened again.

AX 3385 IAD-PWM had a flap issue, causing them to burn off most of their fuel and land with no flaps. Met by ARFF, Portland, South Portland, and Westbrook FD.

Safe landing, met by ARFF on the runway, presumably to check for any overheating by the brakes?

Left 100 minutes late with passengers.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 107, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

Sorry to double post but I just got word that Air Wisconsin lost the Ground Handling contract with United in PWM, so in one month I'll be out of a job. =(

Looking for opportunities elsewhere, but it's unlikely they'll be in New England.


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 107):
I just got word that Air Wisconsin lost the Ground Handling contract with United in PWM, so in one month I'll be out of a job. =(

Looking for opportunities elsewhere, but it's unlikely they'll be in New England.

Sorry to hear that.... it's been fun reading your posts from downeast PWM. Here's wishing you a smooth transition.

I got to ride Air Wisconsin back when its Bae-146's were regulars on the MSN-ORD route. Seemed like a reliable, well-run operation back then, so it's hard to watch them slowly diminish to nothing.


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8571 posts, RR: 10
Reply 109, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Looks like DL is restarting BOS-CDG seasonal service, next Summer.
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1724


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