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UA Increasing CVG Service  
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16691 posts, RR: 51
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5963 times:

Additional frequencies to EWR and IAH from CVG, although CLE is cut.

http://www.chron.com/news/article/17...ti-Northern-Ky-airport-3601694.php


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
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User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3173 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5876 times:

I can't believe this is worthy of a press release.

They cut 14 weekly flights and added 17 weekly flights for a net gain of 3 flights.

Oh, and they also lost a destination that was previously served.

What a joke


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16691 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

I guess CVG is desperate for anything positive, they want to promote what they're doing (moving carriers to A etc..).


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

Isn't that the long-running theme at UA? Trim domestic and shift capacity to international whenever possible ? Trimming CLE in favor of EWR/IAH feels exactly that.

Bringing ORD/IAD on board also helped reduce dependence on CLE for midwest and mid-atlantic traffic. Sad state to be cutting a destination, but we've all anticipated the downhill slope of CLE from Day 1.


User currently offlineLHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1446 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5619 times:

I'm surprised our resident PHX/CVG advocate hasn't chimed in yet....

Anyhoo, yeah much ado about nothing. The bigger news will come when/if someone starts adding more 2-class RJ or mainline service to CVG, I think.


User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3326 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

Just typical news outlets. A few weeks ago Philly.com reported that US was adding TA service from PHL when it was just the normal seasonal upgrades that US has done for years.

User currently offlineizbtmnhd From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5468 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 3):

You bring up ORD/IAD yet the service adds are to EWR/IAH? You actually kind of disprove your point. The CVG-CLE service was operating for CO/UA for a whole amazing 2 years. Let's not get to giddy about the downfall of CLE yet.


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5459 times:

As a side note, I overnighted in CVG a couple weeks back and the terminal renovations look great. We used to park at Terminal 1 but now we're over at Concourse A and it's very nice. It brought back a lot of nostalgia as well because I remember being there when I first got hired at OH and went for training. That was back when DL used to run 767s from ATL to CVG. Times have changed, unfortunately but it was great to be back and see the airport is taking care of the concourse!

User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5430 times:

Quoting izbtmnhd (Reply 6):
You bring up ORD/IAD yet the service adds are to EWR/IAH? You actually kind of disprove your point. The CVG-CLE service was operating for CO/UA for a whole amazing 2 years. Let's not get to giddy about the downfall of CLE yet.

ORD/IAD is more for domestic. EWR is for EMEA, and IAH is for Latin America. Overlap is not high.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2356 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5414 times:

Quoting izbtmnhd (Reply 6):
The CVG-CLE service was operating for CO/UA for a whole amazing 2 years. Let's not get to giddy about the downfall of CLE yet.


Agreed. Even at the "height" of the CLE hub, CO did not operate CVG service, or did so intermittently.

The much-maligned United CFO, John Rainey, is on the record noting that CLE is a "good hub" currently, with about the right amount of capacity for demand. It is very O&D-oriented, which is good for yields, and the market is not highly competitive. I don't expect UA to cut CLE much more than they already have.


User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3095 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5368 times:

Its kind of a sad time for CVG but they want to show they are trying. The move to A at least will make the airport feel better and less dead i think plus its so much nicer. They have tons of room for other carriers to come in or expand and can keep delta payments rolling in on B

User currently offlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1850 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5361 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 1):
What a joke
Quoting LHCVG (Reply 4):
Anyhoo, yeah much ado about nothing.

You should have seen the article a few months ago that called it a "coup" for the airport when DL added a frequency to ATL and DTW!

Quoting LHCVG (Reply 4):
The bigger news will come when/if someone starts adding more 2-class RJ or mainline service to CVG, I think.

I agree, but an add is an add and when you've practically been seeing nothing but service reductions at CVG, any type of service addition is somewhat refreshing. I too am anxious for possible mainline additions, but the article doesn't specify the type of aircraft so there very well could be some 2-class RJ's in the mix. Also, I believe CVG is still a mainline station for UA...so you never know.


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5274 times:

So I'm guessing a few more ERJs to boot?


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User currently offlineizbtmnhd From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 8):

Again, see what you want to see on this. There isn't much there.

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 9):

I read about that too. Certainly sounded positive about CLE. Nice to see it coming from the horse's mouth.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4311 times:

Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
Additional frequencies to EWR and IAH from CVG, although CLE is cut.

Well it's really not surprising seeing the CLE cut to me.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 2):
I guess CVG is desperate for anything positive, they want to promote what they're doing (moving carriers to A etc..).

Exactly. I'm pretty happy to see any sort of increase.

Quoting LHCVG (Reply 4):
I'm surprised our resident PHX/CVG advocate hasn't chimed in yet....

LOL!    went right over me until I saw it on the front page.



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User currently offlineLHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1446 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3870 times:

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 11):
I agree, but an add is an add and when you've practically been seeing nothing but service reductions at CVG, any type of service addition is somewhat refreshing. I too am anxious for possible mainline additions, but the article doesn't specify the type of aircraft so there very well could be some 2-class RJ's in the mix. Also, I believe CVG is still a mainline station for UA...so you never know.

You're correct that CVG sees at least 1 mainline UA RON, and supposedly more at some times though I haven't seen that in my real or dummy bookings back home yet. My general thrust was that I personally believe that when a carrier commits to use either a large 2-class RJ or a mainline flight, they are putting more chips on the table than just adding another 50-seater. But yes more service is more service, and that can't hurt.


User currently offlineBC77008 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3577 times:

Gee, this is so funny, I thought UA was going to be REDUCING service at IAH....


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User currently onlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3577 times:

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 11):
Also, I believe CVG is still a mainline station for UA...so you never know.

  

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 12):

Since CVG to both EWR and IAH are mainline according to FlightAware, I would expect some more 737s and A319s instead of ERJs. But if I hadn't checked, I, like you, would have thought that CVG saw regional service from UA's hubs.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3496 times:

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 17):
Since CVG to both EWR and IAH are mainline according to FlightAware, I would expect some more 737s and A319s instead of ERJs. But if I hadn't checked, I, like you, would have thought that CVG saw regional service from UA's hubs.

For a while, service between CVG and ORD was also mainline.



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2874 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3444 times:

With the reductions at CVG wouldn't anoth,er carrier want to look at building even a focus city there, with a great facility and plently of space. Could WN or B6 or NK , be making a good move by using CVG as a great connecting point to the east? It is less plagued by bad weather and a nicer facility than CLE. With companies like Toyota and Chiquita based in Cinncinnati ot seems there would be a fair amount of O/D, IMO.


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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2874 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

With the reductions at CVG wouldn't another carrier want to look at building even a focus city there, with a great facility and plently of space. Could WN or B6 or NK , be making a good move by using CVG as a great connecting point to the east? It is less plagued by bad weather and a nicer facility than CLE. With companies like Toyota and Chiquita based in Cinncinnati ot seems there would be a fair amount of O/D, IMO.


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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6478 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 17):
Since CVG to both EWR and IAH are mainline according to FlightAware,

Not sure what you are seeing in FlightAware, but UA flies both routes using ERJs and an occasional CRJ700.


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 17):

Yeah I think you got it backwards. The only mainline into CVG on United is a 320 to ORD.



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User currently offlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1850 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 18):
Quoting jporterfi (Reply 17):
Since CVG to both EWR and IAH are mainline according to FlightAware, I would expect some more 737s and A319s instead of ERJs. But if I hadn't checked, I, like you, would have thought that CVG saw regional service from UA's hubs.

For a while, service between CVG and ORD was also mainline.

It still is technically, UA still operates a daily mainline flight on the route.

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 19):
With the reductions at CVG wouldn't anoth,er carrier want to look at building even a focus city there, with a great facility and plently of space.

The potential is definitely there, CVG is in a great position to pull traffic from other surrounding cities, but the airport and community should first focus on just bringing in an LCC to begin with before any speculation about focus cities.

Quoting LHCVG (Reply 15):
My general thrust was that I personally believe that when a carrier commits to use either a large 2-class RJ or a mainline flight, they are putting more chips on the table than just adding another 50-seater.

True, and I would agree, but with EWR being as slot-constrained as it is, dedicating 6 frequencies to CVG I think definitely means something.


User currently offlineLHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1446 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 23):
Quoting LHCVG (Reply 15):My general thrust was that I personally believe that when a carrier commits to use either a large 2-class RJ or a mainline flight, they are putting more chips on the table than just adding another 50-seater.
True, and I would agree, but with EWR being as slot-constrained as it is, dedicating 6 frequencies to CVG I think definitely means something.

Agreed!


25 ih8b6 : Chiquita is no longer based in CVG. They moved to CLT.
26 jporterfi : My apologies. I was mistakenly looking at EWR and IAH to CLE in FlightAware, instead of CVG. You are right, flights from EWR and IAH are ERJ, while f
27 Post contains images point2point : One would think that they would add DEN as well, so that now they'll be more possible connects for the DEN-NRT flight.
28 PHX787 : I'm surprised that a CRJ can run the DEN-CVG route. It doesn't sound right to me, I mean, how could an aircraft like that do a route to a high airpor
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