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Etihad Announces Sao Paulo  
User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4785 posts, RR: 43
Posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 14330 times:

Dear All,

Etihad Airways has officially announced that they will be launching new nonstop flights to GRU-Sao Paulo effective June 2013. No schedue nor frequencies have been mentioned though but it is now official as per the link below:

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/etiha...o-route-from-june-2013-460254.html

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User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4785 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 14305 times:

http://www.ameinfo.com/etihad-airways-fly-brazil--302451

A346 announced as aircraft type


User currently offlineyeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 882 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 14119 times:

Excellent news!   



A long flight indeed! As it stand now, would be the 24th longest regularly scheduled passenger flight in the world and will just edge out AUH-SYD as EY's longest flight.

Showing the flight inserted into its neighbors in the World’s Longest Flights 19 June schedules:

6597nm DXB-GRUº Emirates 77Wx7 

6581nm TLVº-LAX EL AL ˇ 77Ex5[4]
(6545nm AUH-GRU Ethiad 346x7 scheduled June 2013) 

6534nm TPE-YYZ EVA 77Wx3 

6510nm AUHº-SYD Etihad ˇ 346x11 / V Australia 77Wx3

World's Longest Flights, 19 June Updates (by yeogeo Jun 1 2012 in Aviation Polls)

yeo



Yokoso! to my world
User currently offlineolli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 13285 times:

I am so jealous with GRU. They will now have the 3 best Gulf carriers (among the 3 best airlines in the world).

When will be the time for MEX? At least to have one of them.

Congrats GRU.

Best Regards,


User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1600 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 11514 times:

That's quite a flight! Flying over the middle east, Africa, transatlantic and onto So. America!

I wonder how much a ticket on that flight will cost


User currently offlinearn777 From Sweden, joined Jul 2010, 202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11230 times:

Some say ARN is next. 4w with 332. Anyone knows more?

User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10865 times:

...and the recurring rumour of EDI also, but given the multiple previous rumours over the years, I am not sure I would read too much into that. With a relatively small market I suspect Emirates would fight their corner very well indeed.

User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10709 times:

Congratulations to Etihad and GRU! Now, Sao Paulo (and soon IAD) will join JFK in terms of the cities in the Americas served by all "big three" Gulf Carriers.


next flights: jfk-icn, icn-hkg-bkk-cdg, cdg-phl-msp
User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10380 times:

EY really likes to announce their new routes a long way out, don't they... Seems a bit silly IMO. Good news though!

I wonder where they will be getting the A346 capacity from? I doubt they have enough slack in the fleet for a daily flight of this length...


User currently offlines.p.a.s. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10043 times:

I understand the flights will operate on a daily basis...


"ad astra per aspera"
User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9928 times:

Quoting olli (Reply 3):
I am so jealous with GRU. They will now have the 3 best Gulf carriers (among the 3 best airlines in the world).

And SQ too (via BCN).



AT7/111/146/Avro/CRJ/CR9/EMB/ERJ/E75/F50/100/L15/DC9/D10/M8X/717/727/737/747/757/767/777/AB6/310/319/320/321/330/340/380
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9925 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 4):
I wonder how much a ticket on that flight will cost

It may well be very reasonable. When QR launched their DOH-GRU-EZE route they sold tickets from £350rtn from Spain and apparently less from South America. Similarly I seem to recall EK having fares of around £400 for LHR-GRU via DXB when they first launched the flight.


Dan  



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User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9872 times:

Congrats to GRU! Exciting news for EY too, some more expansion from them is always nice to see!

Quoting qf002 (Reply 8):
I wonder where they will be getting the A346 capacity from? I doubt they have enough slack in the fleet for a daily flight of this length...

Indeed their schedule seems pushed of late, they are wetleasing a VA 77W to cover AUH-KUL for an extended period. Must be an expensive exercise?

What does their upcoming deliver schedule look like?

Quoting qf002 (Reply 8):
EY really likes to announce their new routes a long way out, don't they... Seems a bit silly IMO. Good news though!

I always feel EY is trying to play catch up to QR and EK with their expansion, they seem to like to be included in the press a bit an announce these things way out. Whats their future route schedule looking like?

I must confess (as obvious from my questions above) to not follow EY with as much interest as I should, I love their branding it sits well with me. How is AUH coping with their expansion?


User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9608 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 4):
I wonder how much a ticket on that flight will cost
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):
Similarly I seem to recall EK having fares of around £400 for LHR-GRU via DXB when they first launched the flight.

That would be a dream, because lately EK and QR are charging average 1500~1700 USD return even on low season...


User currently offlineincitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4015 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9417 times:

Very good news for Brazil and for Sao Paulo. Not so good news for Qatar and Emirates as the competition will put further pressure on fares. It will be a while before Emirates can have the confidence to add a second flight. I expect GRU's new terminal to fill up as soon as it opens.


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User currently offlinevincewy From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8774 times:

How did EY manage to get slot at GRU? I know it's already saturated unless EY can arrive, turn around, and depart during the odd hours.

Quoting olli (Reply 3):
I am so jealous with GRU

If Mexico City gets their act together you'll see EK, EY, QR, and even TK serving MEX. At the current state, it aint gonna happen, in fact the airport even hampers growth for AM.


User currently offlinesydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3072 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8477 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 12):
What does their upcoming deliver schedule look like?

Etihad should have another 8 77W's joining the fleet over the course of 2012/2013 and then 787's & A380's from 2014.


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8210 times:
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With all 3 Gulf airlines flying to GRU one has to wonder how much traffic has been connecting through Europe before ? This the "BIC" connection ( Not BRIC), Brazil to India and China.

User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7390 times:

Quoting vincewy (Reply 15):
How did EY manage to get slot at GRU? I know it's already saturated unless EY can arrive, turn around, and depart during the odd hours.

I don't think they have. It's my understanding that slots for the summer of 2013 will only be awarded in November.


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13134 posts, RR: 100
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6418 times:
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Quoting olli (Reply 3):
When will be the time for MEX? At least to have one of them.

What is the bilateral status with Mexico? That could inhibit launching the service.

The reality is, the mid-east carriers need expanding demand to enter many markets. Is MEX growing in passenger numbers? If not, expect a delay before service starts.

Lightsaber



Societies that achieve a critical mass of ideas achieve self sustaining growth; others stagnate.
User currently offlineTruemanqld From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6200 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 12):
Indeed their schedule seems pushed of late, they are wetleasing a VA 77W to cover AUH-KUL for an extended period.

Really? I hadn't heard this... Is VA cutting back on routes to facilitate this?


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5755 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 12):
they are wetleasing a VA 77W to cover AUH-KUL for an extended period. Must be an expensive exercise?

That's only a once weekly rotation, while VA's plane is sat in AUH for a ridiculously long period of time between flights (something like 36 hours?!).

Quoting sydscott (Reply 16):
Etihad should have another 8 77W's joining the fleet over the course of 2012/2013

I hope we don't end up having our A346's replaced with 77W's into SYD   


User currently offlineTruemanqld From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 21):
That's only a once weekly rotation, while VA's plane is sat in AUH for a ridiculously long period of time between flights (something like 36 hours?!).

Ah ok, makes sense. I didn't think VA had the Aircraft numbers to spare one permanently without reducing flights.


User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7064 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5587 times:

....and there goes the rumor that was discussed in a few German message boards that EY wants to get rid of their A340s as soon as possible....


It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5473 times:

Quoting Truemanqld (Reply 22):
I didn't think VA had the Aircraft numbers to spare one permanently without reducing flights.

It's still shockingly bad utilisation considering VA only have 5 (or 6?) aircraft.


25 Post contains images cv990coronado : Quoting QF002 Relpy 21 "I hope we don't end up having our A346's replaced with 77W's into SYD" Well at least they are not like EK's with 10 Abreast. Y
26 Lanas : Hi all Please excuse me for the ignorance and if my info is a bit outdated. I´m just wondering if there is enough demand for 3 gulf carrier flights i
27 VC10er : I am in Sao Paulo right now. I have been coming here for 15 years for business. This giant city has changed so much in that time. Each visit I see a n
28 Post contains links and images A388 : Apparently EY still has a few 77W deliveries for 2012/2013. Besides this, the route is planned to start in 2013 so any aircraft changes can still hap
29 EddieDude : Congrats to GRU and EY! This is fantastic news. Well, it is not as easy. On the one hand, you have the altitude issue. That is something that cannot b
30 A388 : I'm not in the know regarding market demand between the Middle East/Asia and Mexico but I can imagine the market demand is thin from the Middle East
31 yellowtail : Maybe, but if you combine it with demand from MEX to India, Africa etc....it can fill a flight easily. There is even traffic to KUL and MNL which is
32 IrishAyes : Korean Air via LAX, 3X weekly and goes onward to ICN. Also, while not Asian, important to note that Ethiopian Airlines and Kenya Airways have both st
33 incitatus : EY is not getting any more A346s. Will there be a 3-class version of the 77W? Or will they remove F class from other markets in order to serve GRU?
34 lightsaber : I wonder if there are not some further connection into Russia. Does anyone have the travel numbers DXB/DOH/AUH to Russia? Is there a way to exclude E
35 klwright69 : It looks like EY will not be outdone!
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