aztrainer From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 477 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 17568 times:
HA-50 leaves during the normal mid-day rush (15:15 HST) and arrives at 6:45 EDT.
HA-51 leaves JFK at 10:10 EDT and arrives at HNL 14:40HST
I have a question on the turning of the crew. Are they going to be in NYC for one or two days?
What is the load factor for the New York flights. I looked at flight aware and pulled up the following flight:
UAL - 14 HNL - EWR
This would surmise that HA will have a small amount of competition for the direct flights so that people are not having to go to ATL, IAH, PHX, SFO, LAX, OAK or some others for a connection flights.
SSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 535 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15830 times:
Hawaiian also just announced a full-on partnership with JetBlue. This flight will see some connecting traffic. Would be pretty sweet to come from some of the smaller northeast markets, and get on just one more plane to make it to Hawaii. The booking engine on Hawaiianair.com now allows booking to/from places like Boston, Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, Burlington and Portland. Haven't checked with jetblue.com, but I assume the same. http://www.hawaiianair.com/alohajetblue
I don't have stats, unfortunately, but word has it that flights on HA between JFK and HNL are pretty booked, at least for the first few weeks. Of course, that's just word , but with UA dominating the NYC-Hawaii route for some time, it wouldn't be surprising if it's true.
haynflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12445 times:
I leave Wednesday for a short vacation in Boston and NYC and I'm flying on this flight to JFK. I'm sure it will be packed because of the introductory fare of $212 each way - everyone in NYC knows the significance of that number! And for us who live in the 50th state, flight number HA5-0 is so appropriate.
I love long hops and although I still prefer HNL-EWR because of the ease and speed of getting into Manhattan, I am looking forward to the flight.
Just did HA HNL-SYD and thought it a great flight. Going down was a day flight and the IFE made the 10:45 hours fly by. It's complementary on international flights but might cost $$ on domestic flights.
Great aircraft and service.
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daviation From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 506 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9033 times:
I am booked on this flight at the end of July, returning in early August. I didn't get the $212 fare, but I did get a reasonable promo fare via Hawaiian's credit card. It's a long hike, but I've been on longer nonstops from the Middle East. I'm going to bring extra snacks because the meals don't look particularly filling. I'll also buy the entertainment package since I've got my two teenagers with me. And I called HA's res dept to see if they'll check my baggage through to JHM, even though I booked the HNL-JHM portion directly through Island Air. They said it would be ok. I hope they're right.
The crew hotel, I believe, is on 10th Ave and 42nd St. It's not a terribly long walk to Times Square, but it's more than two blocks away. And the east-west blocks are LONG blocks! But it's certainly within walking distance of Broadway shows and Lincoln Center symphonies.
slcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2907 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8838 times:
I dont think anyone is doubting this service will fill during the summer especially with the insane fares they were offering. Its gonna be the fall and spring that might be the real test. The jetblue partnership seems like it made JFK the spot they wanted to try but im waiting to see how the bookings are in the off season and after these low introductory fares.
Effective June 5, JetBlue's TrueBlue members can accrue one point for every two miles flown on eligible Hawaiian-operated flights, while HawaiianMiles members will be able to earn miles on eligible JetBlue-operated flights on a mile-for-mile basis
HNLPointShoot From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 290 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8476 times:
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 22): I dont think anyone is doubting this service will fill during the summer especially with the insane fares they were offering. Its gonna be the fall and spring that might be the real test.
I'd be surprised if HA has trouble convincing people from New York to fly to Hawaii during the winter. Snow is overrated anyway.
BOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1955 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8233 times:
I read today that analysts are saying that if the JFK flight does well, other East Coast cities would be considered too, like BOS (because their partner B6 has a hub here). But BOS-HNL is only about 20 PDEW from what I've heard, IAD-HNL already has UA, ATL-HNL already has DL, and I don't see how MIA-HNL could be any bigger than BOS-HNL. But maybe they know something that we don't?