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Hawaiian Airlines Inaugural JFK Flight  
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 19473 times:

As we all know, Hawaiian Airlines is starting their service to JFK on Tuesday (Monday night). So, I have a few questions:

1. What is going to be the flight number?
2. Is anybody here going to be on it?
3. Anybody gonna be at JFK whrn it arrives?

Any other info about the flight is welcomed as well.

[Edited 2012-06-03 07:20:43]

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User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 19295 times:

1) The flight is HAL51.
2) There will be passengers on the flight along with local media.
3) HAL might have some kind of festivities at the arrival gate at JFK



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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 18666 times:

Great thanks for the info. I'm gonna try to head over to JFK and see it when it lands

User currently offlineaztrainer From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 580 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks ago) and read 18288 times:

HA-50 leaves during the normal mid-day rush (15:15 HST) and arrives at 6:45 EDT.
HA-51 leaves JFK at 10:10 EDT and arrives at HNL 14:40HST
I have a question on the turning of the crew. Are they going to be in NYC for one or two days?

What is the load factor for the New York flights. I looked at flight aware and pulled up the following flight:

UAL - 14 HNL - EWR

This would surmise that HA will have a small amount of competition for the direct flights so that people are not having to go to ATL, IAH, PHX, SFO, LAX, OAK or some others for a connection flights.


User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 17585 times:

I would be interested as to how profitable these flights are, this is a long distance to travel.

User currently onlinephileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 17383 times:

Can't wait to see how it performs. A bit odd that its operating out of T5. Good for the Y pax, but what is service on the ground gonna look like for the F pax?

Saw a Hawaiian test bird at JFK a few weeks ago trying out the gates, etc.



Its really pretty, especially with its cousins at JFK.

[Edited 2012-06-03 17:06:37]

User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 16783 times:

The HA A330 is driving away from the A380's wishing IT could be the worlds largest passenger aircraft.


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User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 706 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 16550 times:

Hawaiian also just announced a full-on partnership with JetBlue. This flight will see some connecting traffic. Would be pretty sweet to come from some of the smaller northeast markets, and get on just one more plane to make it to Hawaii. The booking engine on Hawaiianair.com now allows booking to/from places like Boston, Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, Burlington and Portland. Haven't checked with jetblue.com, but I assume the same.
http://www.hawaiianair.com/alohajetblue


User currently offlinecaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15821 times:
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Glad to see Hawaiian on this route. I am also happy that they are offering complimentary meals on their flights between HNL and NYC, unlike their competitor at EWR. I wish Hawaiian much success.

User currently onlineblrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15179 times:

Just curious to know what's the passenger stat's for east coast to hawai?


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User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 15075 times:

Quoting blrBird (Reply 9):

I don't have stats, unfortunately, but word has it that flights on HA between JFK and HNL are pretty booked, at least for the first few weeks. Of course, that's just word   , but with UA dominating the NYC-Hawaii route for some time, it wouldn't be surprising if it's true.



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User currently offlineB6A322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14471 times:

I'm actually booked on HA 50 on the 20th of July, and when I booked, It looked like there were only about three seats left in Y, with maybe 5 seats in F.


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User currently offlineha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3660 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13910 times:
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Quoting blrBird (Reply 9):
Just curious to know what's the passenger stat's for east coast to hawai?
http://hawaii.gov/dbedt/info/visitor-stats

Quoting B6A322 (Reply 11):
I'm actually booked on HA 50 on the 20th of July, and when I booked, It looked like there were only about three seats left in Y, with maybe 5 seats in F.

It means that the flight is closing in on being about 70% booked. That is around the point when you no longer can pre-select your seat during booking.


User currently offlinegothamspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13461 times:

Quoting B6A322 (Reply 11):
I'm actually booked on HA 50 on the 20th of July, and when I booked, It looked like there were only about three seats left in Y, with maybe 5 seats in F.

Seats on the seat map != actual occupied seats.


User currently offlinehaynflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 13165 times:

I leave Wednesday for a short vacation in Boston and NYC and I'm flying on this flight to JFK. I'm sure it will be packed because of the introductory fare of $212 each way - everyone in NYC knows the significance of that number! And for us who live in the 50th state, flight number HA5-0 is so appropriate.

I love long hops and although I still prefer HNL-EWR because of the ease and speed of getting into Manhattan, I am looking forward to the flight.

Just did HA HNL-SYD and thought it a great flight. Going down was a day flight and the IFE made the 10:45 hours fly by. It's complementary on international flights but might cost $$ on domestic flights.

Great aircraft and service.



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User currently offlinetrent1000 From Japan, joined Jan 2007, 567 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12444 times:

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 4):
this is a long distance to travel.

4962 miles one way is a mighty loooong 'domestic' flight! That is nearly double SYD/PER or SEA/MIA!

Perhaps there are longer Russian domestic flights, as there are 12 time zones there... mindboggling stuff.


User currently offlineshnoob940 From Australia, joined Sep 2008, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 12012 times:

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 4):
this is a long distance to travel

What's the flight time?

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User currently offlineco38 From Norway, joined May 2009, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11960 times:

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 3):
HA-50 leaves during the normal mid-day rush (15:15 HST) and arrives at 6:45 EDT.

Wonder if they will be using the call sign "Hawaiian Five O"   (Instead of Hawaiian five zero)


User currently offlineje89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11698 times:
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Quoting shnoob940 (Reply 16):
What's the flight time?

Roughly 10 hours westbound and about 9 hours eastbound.

Quoting co38 (Reply 17):
Wonder if they will be using the call sign "Hawaiian Five O" (Instead of Hawaiian five zero)

Nice.


User currently offlinepualani From United States of America, joined May 2004, 301 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9821 times:

Quoting shnoob940 (Reply 16):
Quoting shnoob940 (Reply 16):
What's the flight time?

gibbo

Going east bound it is 9:50 blk
Going west bound it is 11:00 blk

I'll be working the lead on 6/29 and have already been told its full.

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 3):
I have a question on the turning of the crew. Are they going to be in NYC for one or two days?

The layover time is just over 25 hrs and the crew hotel is 2 blks from Times Square !!


User currently offlinedaviation From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9753 times:

I am booked on this flight at the end of July, returning in early August. I didn't get the $212 fare, but I did get a reasonable promo fare via Hawaiian's credit card. It's a long hike, but I've been on longer nonstops from the Middle East. I'm going to bring extra snacks because the meals don't look particularly filling. I'll also buy the entertainment package since I've got my two teenagers with me. And I called HA's res dept to see if they'll check my baggage through to JHM, even though I booked the HNL-JHM portion directly through Island Air. They said it would be ok. I hope they're right.

The crew hotel, I believe, is on 10th Ave and 42nd St. It's not a terribly long walk to Times Square, but it's more than two blocks away. And the east-west blocks are LONG blocks! But it's certainly within walking distance of Broadway shows and Lincoln Center symphonies.


User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1656 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9672 times:

Quoting trent1000 (Reply 15):
4962 miles one way is a mighty loooong 'domestic' flight! That is nearly double SYD/PER or SEA/MIA!

Perhaps there are longer Russian domestic flights, as there are 12 time zones there... mindboggling stuff.

I believe the longest domestic flights in Russia are operated between Moscow and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, with SVO-PKC coming in at 4,203 statute miles.

However, the longest operating domestic flight is CDG-RUN at 5,809 statute miles. That's a solid 800+ miles longer than the 4,983 statue miles of HNL-JFK.


User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9558 times:

I dont think anyone is doubting this service will fill during the summer especially with the insane fares they were offering. Its gonna be the fall and spring that might be the real test. The jetblue partnership seems like it made JFK the spot they wanted to try but im waiting to see how the bookings are in the off season and after these low introductory fares.

Effective June 5, JetBlue's TrueBlue members can accrue one point for every two miles flown on eligible Hawaiian-operated flights, while HawaiianMiles members will be able to earn miles on eligible JetBlue-operated flights on a mile-for-mile basis


User currently offlineHNLPointShoot From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9196 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 22):
I dont think anyone is doubting this service will fill during the summer especially with the insane fares they were offering. Its gonna be the fall and spring that might be the real test.

I'd be surprised if HA has trouble convincing people from New York to fly to Hawaii during the winter. Snow is overrated anyway.    


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8953 times:

I read today that analysts are saying that if the JFK flight does well, other East Coast cities would be considered too, like BOS (because their partner B6 has a hub here). But BOS-HNL is only about 20 PDEW from what I've heard, IAD-HNL already has UA, ATL-HNL already has DL, and I don't see how MIA-HNL could be any bigger than BOS-HNL. But maybe they know something that we don't?

Here's the link, BTW: http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...t-as-it-seeks-to-expand/55364338/1

[Edited 2012-06-04 16:44:50]


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25 etops1 : It's currently enroute ..
26 jporterfi : I really hope that partnership works for both parties, and that it is expanded to more B6 hubs. Are HA and B6 already codesharing at LAX? I wonder wh
27 HNLPointShoot : HA 5-0 just landed a few minutes ago. Hope someone can get pictures of the arrival!
28 spiritair97 : Just got home from JFK. Will post pics when i get home from work later
29 Post contains images richierich : A friend of mine snapped this photo from JFK this morning. Must have been fun to see it touchdown! After a 9.5 hour eastbound flight, here is HA's fir
30 GentFromAlaska : I won a bottle of Hawaiian hooch once for guessing the closest time, to the minute the flight would reach its halfway point from LAX-HNL. It should b
31 Post contains links B6JFKH81 : Pix available on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jetblue/sets/72157630058428360/
32 seabosdca : Doubt it. There's actually considerably more distance over the continent than over the ocean. My crude estimate puts the halfway point somewhere over
33 steex : Correct, it should be over north central California. SMF and E36 (Georgetown Airport in California) both lie on the great circle route between JFK an
34 Post contains images spiritair97 : Here are some of the pics I took. They are t big to be posted on the actual website.
35 yellowtail : HA should do OK out of JFK. I don't think the yields will be that great .....if it works we might see IAD next. That might work for J loads....lots of
36 DocLightning : AFAIK, it is the longest non-stop domestic in the world. Interestingly the GC path from ORD to HNL passes almost directly over the runway intersectio
37 seabosdca : CDG-RUN is longer.
38 Post contains images contrails15 : Here is a pic I took of the send off back to HNL.
39 DocLightning : Ah, so it is. I do think this still is the longest domestic flight that does not pass over foreign territory.
40 GentFromAlaska : As I recall the winning answer was time based to the closest minute and not so much the actual geographical location a couple of other variables exis
41 HALFA : To all of you that posted your pictures from JFK, thank you!! I enjoyed seeing them! HA 51 is about to arrive here in HNL now. Looks like the block ti
42 mah4546 : BOSHNL isn't happening, nor is MIAHNL. He doesn't know anything we don't, he's just throwing a random city out there based on a JetBlue codeshare ann
43 bohica : I don't think so. Right after HA announced JFK-HNL, UA announced IAD-HNL which is starting soon. I don't see IAD having enough traffic for more than
44 contrails15 : [quote=HALFA,reply=41] To all of you that posted your pictures from JFK, thank you!! I enjoyed seeing them! HA 51 is about to arrive here in HNL now.
45 GentFromAlaska : For those who desire the 11 hour non-stop there is a lot military traffic which flies to the HNL from the greater Washington D.C. area Given IAD geog
46 daviation : I flew EWR-HNL non-stop; given a choice I told myself never again. Thereafter I opted to break my trip with a stop on the left coast. I guess everyon
47 BOStonsox : No, the author doesn't know anything we don't. I wouldn't expect him to. But he said that analysts are saying that BOS-HNL would be a possibility. If
48 VC10DC10 : Not to rain on anybody's parade, but can't you already do this on UA or AA via ORD? Best of luck to Hawaiian!
49 SSTeve : AA doesn't factor into many of those markets in a significant way. However, you're right that UA shows up with one-stops through EWR, IAD, and ORD. O
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